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Topic : 05/30 Pretty/Ugly

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Created on : Friday, September 09, 2005, 03:43:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/16/05) How important do you think looks really are? And, do you think attractive people get treated better in society? Dr. Phil's son, Jay, goes out in  disguise to see if people really do judge a book by its cover. You won't believe the results, nor the response that surprised him the most! Plus, Debi favors her older daughter because she’s "beautiful" and treats her youngest like "dirt" because she's "fat and unattractive." Can Dr. Phil help her love both girls equally? And, Michelle only lets her daughter play with pretty kids on the playground because she equates beauty with success in life. Will she learn to re-evaluate her standards? Tell us your thoughts on today's show.

 

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angry
September 16, 2005, 1:41 pm PDT

the mother with the girls

errrrr........  if was there at the show- i would have stood up and said something to these mothers.  especially the one with the two girls.  i thought they were both beautiful!!!!  i went to school with girls who were wealthy, had everything handed to them, and very pretty- guess what i can afford to stay home with my kids and im pretty as ever including my whole family- those others have to work three jobs and gained weight.  the mother on the show with the younges with the skin disease made me cry.   i just wanted to reach in the tv and give the younger girl a bug hug just because.  it makes me mad how mothers or fathers want their kids to be perfect.  aint nobody perfect in looks!!!  look at hollywood- they all wear sweats and no make up- dr. phil- no offense to you, but he looks frumpy on some days too.  i do too.  but that little girl- what does the father say to the mother?  if i were him i would fight for custody till the mother shows respect. and say something to her about her attitude!!!  she is a bad mom for doing this to her kids.  i have two girls and they are both beautiful in their own ways.  one because she has long blonde hair, the other because she is tiny.   we both as parents threw the same amount of people for their parties.  they have the same amount of clothes and shoes and they both snuggle together cause they feel safer that way.  they are best friends.  so lady with the attitude of her youngest- its your baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  grow up and teach her good. 

  

 
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September 16, 2005, 1:43 pm PDT

Some things never change

Watching the show today made me sad and angry. Within my first week of school as a 5 year old I found out I was ugly. I knew my mother fovored my sisters over me but at school the other kids just said it outright. I eventually came to understand that I was not considered worthy of being anyone's friend and that I was supposed to accept and understand that I somehow desrved to be treated badly, This included most teachers. I overheard my mother telling someone " I don't know what happened to her, my others girls are pretty". It would take a book to write all the experiences. I just learned to keep it all in. Because if you reacted it just brought more greif.  Some things never change.
 
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September 16, 2005, 1:46 pm PDT

to viictoria

hi victoria 

if you ever need someone to talk to- feel free to do so- youre a very beautiful child inside and out- you have many hidden talents ready to use- piano, arts what ever you decide to do.  

pen pals 

nicholesheppard@gmail.com 

         princess victoria- victory, winner, beauty!!!!! 

 

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September 16, 2005, 1:46 pm PDT

TO VICTORIAS MOM

  

I CANNOT BELIVE THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT HER LITTLE GIRL THAT WAY. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LITTLE TO SHARE THINGS WITH BECAUSE I HAVE ALL BOYS . I LOST ONE BABY AND IT WAS MY LITTLE GIRL AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE O ONE ONOONE WITH HER.  I AM DELAING WITH AN OVERWEIGHT SON MYSELF BUT I DO NOT TREAT HIM ANY DIFFERENT THAN OUR  OTHER SON. WE NEVER TALK ABOIUT HOW UGLY PEOPLE ARE. SHE NEEDS TO LOKK AT HERSELF IN THE MIRROR. IF I COULD I WOULD TAKEW HER AWAY FORM HER MOTHER. MY BOYS WOULKD LOVE TO HAVE A SISTER THEY LOVE TO BE AROUND GIIRLS. THE Y HAVE TWO GIRL COUSINS AND THEY ARE VERY CLOSE. SHE JUST PISSES ME OFF TO NOE END. IT SHOULD NEVER BE THAT WAY. SOME OF THESE PARENTS THAT REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK IN HTE MIRRORS THEMSELVES, AND TRY TO REMEMBER HOW IT WAS FOR THEM IN SCHOOL. THEY WERE PROBABLY THE BULLIES AND THEY ARE GOING TO RAISE BULLIES. 

PLEASE GET SOME HELP PEOPLE.   

 

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September 16, 2005, 1:49 pm PDT

Oh...My....Goodness.....

I just couldn't believe that mother!!! She favours her older daughter because she's more attractive???? She actually said "If you want to be successful, you have to be pretty"!!!!!!! My jaw just dropped when she said that!! WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH HER? She then went on that you have to be pretty, clean.... etc. READ THIS: BEING PRETTY DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING WITH BEING CLEAN! YOU CAN CHANGE HOW YOU TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF BUT YOU CANNOT CHANGE HOW YOU LOOK! 

 

Social services should take BOTH of her daughters away from her! She's being abusive! What's ironic is that the mother is pretty on the outside but ugly on the inside. If she doesn't change her ways, her daughters will become the same. 

Another digusting moment was when Dr. Phil asked her "What would happen if your older daughter(Hurter is her name, right?) grows up and doesn't look so cute anymore?". She said, "We'll fix that". I WAS OUTRAGED! All I kept thinking was "Dr. Phil, ask her "How?". But he didn't which is okay too because again he pointed it out how wrong she is. 

Dr. Phil is was right on when she was talking to her. Did anybody notice how she kept changing the subject and was always trying to blame everything on Victoria? Sickening... 

 
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September 16, 2005, 1:52 pm PDT

disgusting

 I think that the mother's behavior towards BOTH of her children is disgusting.  Both of them are going to have some serious issues as they grow up.  No one wants to be friends with the girl who thinks she  is better than everyone else.  Also, no one will hire someone with the kind of attitude she will likely have.  The other girl is going to have even more serious emotional and health issues the older she gets.  I think that this mother is ABUSING the "ugly" child.  The way she is treating her daughter is going to emotionally scar her so badly.  She needs to live in a home with love and respect.  Of course she is sloppy and doesn't care about her appearance.  She is living up to her mom's expectations of her.  How can she compete with "perfection?"   That mother makes me sick.  I have a daughter and I strive to  give her self esteem.  I want her to have a positive self-image.  No one is perfect. 

I can relate to the different way that you are treated when you are "ugly."  I contracted viral encephalitis last year and was in hospital for six months after brain surgery.  People would openly stare at my scar. At one point the right side of my face was swollen.  Even the nurses and doctors were treating me differently.  People actually moved away from me on the elevator.  It made me feel very badly about myself. I didn't even want to leave my hospital room for quite awhile. I still have a slight scar and an indent on my head.  People still stare at it.  I have made a conscious decision to be okay with this scar and indent.  They are the reason that I am still alive. 
 
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September 16, 2005, 1:55 pm PDT

Absolutely Unbelievable!

Those Moms today are stuck at the emotional age of about 14...I say that because it's how girls act in junior high! It's quite obvious that Victoria and Hunter's mother has serious emotional problems...showed no emotion, didn't seem to even care or "get" what she was doing. Her expression didn't change once the whole time she was on camera. Unfortunately, the fact that Victoria is deprived of her own place to sleep qualifies as child abuse, and those two girls should be removed from her home and placed in an alternate care situation until their mother gets emotional help. I cringe for what Victoria is going to have to go through in life to overcome the emotional abuse she's undergone at such a pivotal age. The whole thing angers and sickens me, but it also makes me feel sorry for this woman who is obviously wounded herself. Be sure she is held accountable for receiving and responding to therapy PLEASE before Victoria and Hunter are totally destroyed!
 
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September 16, 2005, 1:56 pm PDT

Little Girl Big Problem

I am currently watching the mother and her 2 daughter. Honestly, I think that it is sad that the little girl that is big ( has Better Integrity than most Great people ) has to have a " mother " like that! Being an overweight child is not her fault! Dont you think that if she could change it, she would!!?! I may only be 14 but I know a thing or to about kids that are over weight, because I am over weight. My parents love me just the way that I am. My sister is skinny and is pretty, and I am over weight and not so pretty. You cant be the " perfect " person that every body wants you to be. You should be liked and loved for who you are!
 
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September 16, 2005, 1:58 pm PDT

09/16 Pretty/Ugly

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I have never seen such horrible people as the two "mothers" (and I use that word loosely when it comes to today's guests!)  They deserve to have their beautiful children taken from them.  I never thought I would feel that way about a parent, but these two are disgusting.  They don't seem to get it Dr. Phil even though you were crystal clear explaining the damage they are doing.  If this isn't verbal child abuse, I don't know what is.  I will pray for the girls and hope than your help will get them through. 

Verbal?  No, she's had her bedroom taken away, is not allowed to do anything, is encouraged and then yelled at for eating, watches as her mother showers her sister with hugs, kisses, and warmth, and NOW has to watch her mother tell millions of people live that she is worthless. 

  

I think that it's a bit beyond verbal. 

  

I wish....  I guess I just wish that the whole world were different. 

  

*sigh* 

  

 I hope Dr. Phil really helps these girls (both daughters). 

 

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worried
September 16, 2005, 2:00 pm PDT

Victoria

 I feel for Victoria, she is a BEAUTIFUL little girl and she is giong to have a hard way to go in life and it angers me to know that she does not have the safe haven at home that she needs. I was born with NF which deformed my face, luckly I had two wonderful supportive parents and a whole host of family. I wish I could just hug Victoria to pieces and tell her what I was told..."God don't make no junk" every creature our good Lord made is beautiful and that she can be anything and do anything that she sits her mind to do. Her mother...she dosen't deserve this title....needs someone to knock her off her high horse and bring her back to reality. The saying "beauty is only skin deep" REALLY applies to her...she has NO inner beauty, and I don't know what is keeping her alive...she has NO heart!!!
 
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