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Created on : Friday, September 09, 2005, 03:43:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/16/05) How important do you think looks really are? And, do you think attractive people get treated better in society? Dr. Phil's son, Jay, goes out in  disguise to see if people really do judge a book by its cover. You won't believe the results, nor the response that surprised him the most! Plus, Debi favors her older daughter because she’s "beautiful" and treats her youngest like "dirt" because she's "fat and unattractive." Can Dr. Phil help her love both girls equally? And, Michelle only lets her daughter play with pretty kids on the playground because she equates beauty with success in life. Will she learn to re-evaluate her standards? Tell us your thoughts on today's show.

 

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May 30, 2006, 12:26 pm PDT

05/30 Pretty/Ugly

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I am 36 years old and for the past 2 or 3 years, I have felt (and verified in the mirror) ugly, Ugly, UGLY.  I don't know why I cannot come to grips with this reality.  I hate walking out of the house.  Some Sundays I cannot even bring myself to go to Church and we live right next door!  I have to take and pick up my first-grader from school everyday and that's painful enuf.  In High School, I was pretty but average and always admired / a little jealous of the very pretty girls.  I used my sense of humor to compensate for my lack of cover-girl looks.   

  

In my 20's, I made sure I was never an ounce over 110 lbs. at 5'5", forever tan and always wearing designer lables (even to bed).  Now, in my 30's, I am married with 2 little darlings and my life isn't anything like I wanted 10 years ago but I can even handle that type of disappointment.  What I CANNOT handle is spending 2 hours trying to look good just to go out and get the mail, emerging from the bathroom looking no better (sometimes worse) than before I went in.  I began gaining weight when I met my husband (he's overweight but men don't seem to care or even notice things about themselves) and since I was already 2 sizes above the norm, I got pregnant, actually hoping the baby would use up my excess fat and I'd look like I did after the first baby 5 years earlier!  Funny, huh?   

  

I am now 5'4" (could I have really shrunk an inch already?) and 135 lbs. on a GOOD day.  I HATE my belly fat (I appeared 6 months pregnant when I looked at my silhouette on the bedroom wall last night),  fat neck, double chin, and it certainly doesn't help matters that I am EXHAUSTED everyday.  I'm ugly and I know it.  It gets verified averytime I have to do business in person, outside of my home.   

  

People used to smile, flirt, go out of their way to assist me.  Now I'm shrugged off as any other fat mommy toting a 1-year old and 6-year old to the store.  I also do not have the funds to wear the same brands of clothes I adored in my 20's.  I feel awful inside and try to talk myself out of it but it really is true that looks matter.  I only FEEL good when I LOOK good.   Sigh! 

  

I feel for everyone out there in this and even bigger boats (no pun intended).  I've also done my own "investigative shopping" and experienced how the cutesy, pretty young things treat me like CRAP but the more "bulgy" and / or older cashiers, sales reps and wait-staff  treat me more like a fellow human being. 

Sweetheart, it's gotta be in your head!  I'm 5'1 and 135 is my target weight. You've got three inches on me. I would be so excited to have your height and your weight. I feel heavy for my size. Weight is one of those things all women cry about, but I bet you're beautiful and look better than you did when you were 110! I actually enjoyed gaining because I have hips and breasts now. Whoohoo! :-)


 
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May 30, 2006, 12:27 pm PDT

what is the matter with people??

I just have to ask a question? What happened in that person "debbie's" life to make her a monster to her own child? That child's skins condition came from half of her DNA and chromosomes.Maybe she should think of that.
 
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May 30, 2006, 12:31 pm PDT

Pretty/Ugly

Oh My God how superficial can people be !!!!!!!!  I am always amazed how some people can be so nasty and arrogant !!! 

  

 
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May 30, 2006, 12:32 pm PDT

looks mean nothing

of course "pretty" people do get further in life it has been proven however looks are not everything. I just turned off my TV and i feel sick. i just watched a mother talk about her 7 year old daughter in a way that disturbed me.  I am a teacher and my oppinion is that parents need to help and teach and guide their children. This poor child will alway eat to rebel if her mother is punishing her for being obese. Children do not know what they are supposed to do at the age of 7, they do not know what to eat, how to exercise. Can you expect your 7 year old daughter to sit down on a sunny night and do all their homework with out help and being reminded? Eating and being obese is no different, this child enjoys eating just the same as all children enjoy playing outside on a nice day. Children would not choose homework over playing on their own so, you can not expect this child to make healthy decisions all on their own the girls need their mom. These women on this show have just baffeled me. 

  

One specific quote that grabbed my attention was when she mother of the two girls said something to the effect of : if you aint pretty you wont have no friends  just look at the grammer of this mom...hunny you may be beautiful (you truly are) however look at your grammer, this will not get you far in this world, looks are not everything...you mentioned being beautiful...this language default is GROSS  

  

please dr phill help these women and their children as iam scared for the self worth of these children 

 
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May 30, 2006, 12:34 pm PDT

DISGUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can not believe the pathetic parents on this show! I am outraged! How do these woman still have custody of these children? These are the depressed suicidal children of our world. I would love for these woman to walk one day in their child's shoes. I feel as tough, it's tough enough growing up in todays society and then to have no one to lean on through those tough roads of life is the most depressing and crazy thing I've ever heard of, I would love to talk with these (so called) "mothers" face to face!!!!!!!!!!
 

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May 30, 2006, 12:34 pm PDT

Attitude vs Looks

I thought the way Jay acted when made up effected how he was treated as much as what he looked like.  His demeanor was hesitant, downcast, and a bit creepy. 

  

I'm a 50+ gray haired, over-weight grandma - not a classic beauty by any stretch!  But, I'm treated very well where ever I am, I think because I'm self confident and really love people. 

  

I'd like to see a show with someone who may be plain, but has an out-going personality.  Then measure that against a beautiful person with poor self esteem.  I think the results would be surprising! 

 
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May 30, 2006, 12:36 pm PDT

Unconditional Love

What happened to a mother's unconditional love. I am heartbroken. I have three children-I could never act that way. Not to be mean or anything -I wonder what she would be like if something happened to herself-SAD SAD SAD!!
 
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May 30, 2006, 12:38 pm PDT

Pretty/Ugly

I have just started watching the show and I am cannot believe what I am seeing, I have never seen such superficial people in my life.  I work in an industry where you have to be pretty (promotional modeling) and I still do not understand!  The first mother with the two daughters should be embarassed by herself.  Her daughters were both beautiful and she has no right to be a mother to either one... I really hope she gets help before she makes a mess of all of their lives!
 
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May 30, 2006, 12:39 pm PDT

To the mother with two kids...

 I have one thing to say to you: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

Victoria is a beautiful girl and I'm sure that she will find friends. Just because she looks different from everybody else doesn't make her a bad person and unworthy of love and compassion. It makes her unique!!

Also, if you think that pretty people are automatically better than everybody else, take a long, good look around lady, cause I have news for you. They AREN'T. Kirstie Ally (sp?) is not a "stick" and she still succeeds in life. Even at my school, some of the prettiest people are the most mean, dumb and shallow people I know. Some of them have even been caught using drugs. I HATE them. And If you want your "pretty" daughter to succeed, you need to teach her that success comes from hard work and dedication, not from looking good.

Some of the best people that I know are overweight, too short, too tall, etc, but they are positive about life and are smart and work hard. THEY are the ones who will succeed, not people that think they will because their hair is cut better.

If you want to continue being shallow, then go right ahead and let your daughters down. Both of them. But if you want to change, look beyond how a person looks. If you want Victoria to succeed, spend time with her and boost her self-esteem. You'd be surprised what a difference it can make. It is not her fault she is overweight. She needs a caring mother at her side ALL the way or she will not change. Mothers are there to help their kids. Period. Maybe you need to be there too.
 
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May 30, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

No Typo

Quote From: purplepain

Did you type that wrong? You are 135 lbs? That is a healthy weight for 5'4" Did you mean 235 or maybe something else? I'm 5'2" and I'd kill to be 135...LOL

As Dr Phil would say, you have your self image and your body image tied together. And there are times when that might be legitamate but for the most part...no. You are not your weight and your weight is not you.

The people shrugging you off as another fat mommy are shallow morons...why do you care what they think? If you were skinny and tan again would you not realize that the people treating you better now are only doing it because of your looks? Do you understand that you don't want that kind of attention anyway? Or do you?

If you want to lose weight that isn't a tall order. It's not easy but it's very simple. But you really need to seperate you from your body.

After I posted this, I said to myself, "Self, you might just offend some folks or hurt their feelings" and I would NEVER intentionally do that, so no, it wasn't a typo.  I just can't seem to carry myself well.  I KNOW there are far bigger people out there and I find alot of them attractive, I just don't know how to look "put together" anymore.  Make-up makes me look older alot of the time and I tried clothes on for over 3 hours last Friday and GAVE UP.  I was trying to treat myself to something NEW ; so tired of good-will shopping and coming home with something that fits, then realizing it was probably instyle 4 years ago.  All the darn clothes are skin-tight and I am too 'mature' for that look.  I ended up with 2 brand-new outfits which my Grandma, bless her heart, would wear just because they fit me loosely.  Yea, I really am a basket case and even when I was thin I didn't feel that comfortable in my own skin.  One of the many reasons I'm not the "career woman" I was trying so hard to be from age 23 through 33 and now just a house-frump.  Take care, purplepain    :) 

 
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