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(Original Air Date: 09/16/05) How important do you think looks really are? And, do you think attractive people get treated better in society? Dr. Phil's son, Jay, goes out in  disguise to see if people really do judge a book by its cover. You won't believe the results, nor the response that surprised him the most! Plus, Debi favors her older daughter because she’s "beautiful" and treats her youngest like "dirt" because she's "fat and unattractive." Can Dr. Phil help her love both girls equally? And, Michelle only lets her daughter play with pretty kids on the playground because she equates beauty with success in life. Will she learn to re-evaluate her standards? Tell us your thoughts on today's show.

 

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May 30, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

05/30 Pretty/Ugly

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I have seen so many instances of pretty versus ugly that my head is spinning. 

 

  

 

When I was in my younger I considered myself to be average, was slim, and since the age of 13 had long beautiful hair.  Someone was always commenting on how beautiful it was.  Well, between the age of 16 and 25 I cut my hair, three times (to just above shoulder length).  Here’s how people reacted to this: 

-         one of my bank customers, who would always come to my teller wicket (and would actually wait if there was a lineup):  what have you done to your hair!!  After that I wasn’t his favorite teller anymore. 

-         My mother (if you can believe it):  you’re not my Debbie anymore (ouch, my self-esteem hit an all-time low) 

-         A co-worker:  again, what have you done to your hair!  He never treated me the same way again. 

 

  

 

One of my girlfriends was so pretty that quite literally every man in the room would turn their heads to stare at her.  Women were extremely jealous of her beauty.  There was one huge pitfall to her beauty – she attracted all of the men who shallow womanizers, who wanted to have a beautiful woman on their arm for the sake of their own ego.  Many of these men were abusive in nature. 

 

  

 

I’ve also seen women get a job because they were beautiful or volumtuous – hired by a man (who bragged later on to other men why he hired her).  Extremely frustrating to women who are not perceived as beautiful, volumtous, etc. 

 

  

 

One final note on being perceived as beautiful – this person is often excluded from groups of other women because they are jealous of their beauty. 

 

  

 

I have seen heavier women not wanting to be with slim women and vice versa.  Slim women sometimes look at heavier women and wonder why they don't take care of themselves.  Heavier women don't want to be around slim women because they feel they are discriminated against, and may become jealous.  Jealousy can be painful to whomever it is directed at.  So this discrimination goes both ways.  

   

Unfortunately from all of the ads with pretty/handsome, slim models and actors, society has set a standard of what's beautiful and what isn't.  This isn't fair (as many things in life are not), so all children must be taught and validated over and over and over again by their parents, teachers and friends that each one is unique and it’s what inside that counts.  

   

Interestingly enough, teenagers who focus solely on being beautiful with very little or no focus on studies or developing strong family values eventually realize just being pretty doesn't work anymore; it's values and intelligence that are respected.  They have to re-evaluate their beliefs and work to re-define themselves; a long difficult journey.  

 

  

 

 

  

 

I think each and every child should be taught (both boys and girls) that beauty what's inside the person, not outside.  And that someone isn’t better because they're perceived as pretty.  And that someone is no lesser a person because they’re perceived as 'ugly'.  And to reinforce this, the most important thing is that as a society we need to change our perception of what beauty is.  

    

Pretty vs Ugly - we all need help! 
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May 30, 2006, 12:45 pm PDT

pretty ugly herself!!!

Being from Tennessee and having a real  old fashioned grandmother I often heard "Pretty is as Pretty does." Has this mother never heard of this! It realy upset me to hear what she was saying about her daughters. There are so many people out there that can't even have children, and she is taking for granted what the good Lord above gave her. Being the mother of three, I thought I had seen and heard pretty much everything, but she really shocked me. She really needs to step back and look at herself, because yes she may be pretty on the outside, but once her mouth opens that's it. I wouldn't want to be in the same room with her. On the topic of the show, yeah it's sad to say but today's society is really in to looks and what people can give them. Everyone wants to have money, the clothes, the social status, etc. I only have one question? Can you take any of that with you when you leave this earth? I THINK NOT!!!   

 
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May 30, 2006, 12:47 pm PDT

Know the score, avoid heartache

Parents who lie to their children and tell them that there is something more important than appearance are doing their children a great disservice. Studies have shown that attractive people are treated better in all areas of life and at all ages than those who are less attractive. Fat people in particular are singled out, but on the whole anyone who does not fit the norm, and we are not talking raving beauty, will have difficulty in life. I think we need to be honest with our children and tell them that their chances at success and love are directly proportional to their physical acceptability. If you are less than perfect, or if you are fat, you will have to fight twice as hard for half the recognition. People will be embarrassed to be seen with you. Your chances are slightly better if you are a man, but your choices will be limited by your girth or the fact that you do not fit within acceptable physical norms. The package is at least as important as what's inside.
 
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May 30, 2006, 12:49 pm PDT

05/30 Pretty/Ugly

I am so disgusted with Victoria's and Hunter's mother.  Rarely do I verbally react to what I watch on television, however, I was truly stunned at most of what Debi was saying about her own daughter.  I have been a teacher for many years.  I have seen just how cruel children ( especially young girls) can be to eachother.  This woman is no different than those girls.  It seems to me that something happened or someone teased her when she was younger that put her mind in such a rediculous and negelectful state.  I think the child would be better off with her father.  At least she would know that she is loved.  I'm even willing to take her into my home just so she can grow to love and respect herself.  If I was this woman's family I would have called child services on her a long tme ago!
 
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May 30, 2006, 12:54 pm PDT

05/30 Pretty/Ugly

 are you kidding me!!!!
This is discusting........... I am horrified, as a 42 yr old mom of 2 boys, Oklahoma born, living in Boca raton Florida.  I am so heart broken for this little girl.  Truly I feel she would be better off anywhere  except for with her monster.
Who would ever be so full of themselves as to think they are more beautiful, than the gift God gave them.
The way her home looked, the way she spoke, it was obvious her daughters skin condition  would be the last thing to hender her ability to be  upwardley mobile.

Life is just that, it's life.   Full of all  the exceitment, dissapointment, love, lonliness, joy, fear, understanding, frustration etc...... Perfect just the way God intended it to be. Stop looking in the mirror, look inward.

 Be the best you can give.


 
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May 30, 2006, 12:55 pm PDT

poor victoria

 what is wrong with her mother?  how can you be so insensitive, how can you be the one who beats your daughter down?  i felt sick watching that, literally sick to my stomach.  i was eating lunch and had to stop.  i am absolutely disgusted with her.  i can't stress that enough, words can't express the way i feel.  the worst part is she's too blind to see it,  too superficial, she's one of those people you avoid being friends with once you see them for what they really are, but you try to just stop talking to them because you don't want to hurt they're feelings because you know they have really low self-esteem.  i pray to god for her that nothing ever happens to disfigure her or make her different from the norm, because karma is coming and if it hits her 10 times harder than what she's doing to her child, she's in trouble.  hopefully she wakes up for Victoria's sake.
 
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May 30, 2006, 1:00 pm PDT

I am beside myself...

Let me start by saying how dare that woman bare 2 children and treat them the way she does.  I am a new mother at the age of 41 1/2 to a 2 1/2 month old and am thankful everyday for the daughter I have and it disgusts me that this woman is so selfish and shallow.  The selfishness is what is so bad .....her children deserve a mother who will love them unconditionally and for who they are and not who she wants them to be.  I am absolutely disgusted by her behavior.  I would love to sit down with her for 5 minutes and let her know what it feels like to be ridiculed and put down to the point of feeling inadequate.....to have her get a dose of her own medicine...as an adult .....and have her TRY to imagine what it feels like as a child.  I would write more but I have wasted to much time on this woman.  I want to go and spend my time teaching my daughter how to be a compassionate, caring, empathetic and good person.  May God help this woman's children, children are a blessing and should be cherished they are not commodities.  

 
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May 30, 2006, 1:03 pm PDT

What would they do?

I'm curious what Jay would do if a "ugly overweight" person approached him without knowing he was being watched?
 
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May 30, 2006, 1:03 pm PDT

Jodi -- the "perfect" mom.

What a strange woman.  Jodi had the worst grammer I'd ever heard on TV, had been unable to keep her husband,  was teaching one child to be a conceited moron while treating the other child worse than the evil step-mother in a Grimms fairy tale.  Yet she calls herself perfect. 

  

All this concern over beauty is so temporary.  It matters a lot in high school but after that it's  all about how you do in your chosen career, how you treat your firends, how you treat your husband and family, the respect you show your parents, what kind of friend you are, your reputation for honesty and so many other things like talent and accomplishments.  What a shame it is when people focus on this one superficial aspect of life. 

 
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May 30, 2006, 1:04 pm PDT

What Gives You The Right?

 this is a message to the mother who treats her less atractive daughter like crap. who gives you the right to do that to her. like dr phil said she is only 7 years old!!! i was appalled to see that video of you and your daughters. you literally make me sick. i can't believe you would do that to your daughters. you say you're trying to be "the perfect mum"? well in my opinion "the perfect mum" (if you can even say there is a perfect mum) is absolutely nothing like you. you are the polar opposite of a "perfect mum". a "perfect mum" would love her children no matter what. and she would not pick favourites or love a child more. you and your kind disgust me. you are scaring your children for the rest of their lives. you obviously need some mental help and i hope you can change your attitude. and just to add to me it is people like you that are the "ugly people" you and your kind remind me of christmas decorations or porcelain dolls. a nice pretty outside shell but hollow and empty inside. void of any real feeling. not heart just an empty shell.
 
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