Topic : 05/30 Pretty/Ugly

THAT WOMAN SAID THAT ROBIN MAKES DR. PHIL ACCEPTABLE ... BECAUSE SHE'S A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN??? 

  

 

PLEASE!!!  IN MY OPINION, THEY HAVE EQUAL APPEARANCE APPEAL - AVERAGE. 

Okay, last nights show.  The fellow that had the makeover done was not only ugly, but very dirty and creepy looking.  His hair looked dirty like he had lice, and just overall looked unclean, borderline homeless.  So my point is one can be unnattractive, but be clean looking; maybe people will look.

I thought Jay's experiment was flawed and would like to have seen it done with someone who isn't famous or recognizable. Part of why everyone was talking to him the second time around was because they knew who he was!
I would have been disturbed by "disguised Jay" because he did look creepy. I don't think he looked "unattractive" - he just looked like a man who was unkempt and did not care about his appearance. His personality matched this and I thought he began acting odd. He didn't have the glowing personality he did when he was himself. Besides, I would never talk to any man who accosted me in the mall or accept a drink from a stranger who was sitting in the shadows alone. 
One of my best friends worked at Victoria's Secret in college and had horror stories about the perverts that would come in there and do/say all kinds of bizarre things. I think it is uncomfortable when ANY man is hanging out in bikini or lingerie stores.  
Good try on the experiment, but I think several other dimensions could have been added to it to make it more interesting!

  

  

After being moved to tears on Friday for Victoria I just knew that I had to post a message.  I think that Debi needs a little vacation to work on her mothering skills.  Flat out no questions asked this is abuse.  I think any judge that had this mother and a copy of this Dr. Phil show in front of him would have serious problems with his conscious if he placed a child back in this woman's custody.  The father must see that a problem exist if  Victoria is the one being sent to his house all the time and children do talk.  I am sure that this problem has been discussed in some fashion.  If anyone that is reading this or if the mother herself is reading this I am begging you to utilize the help that is out there for you.  Our children are a gift to us and they are the future.  Abusing them emotionally is just as bad as physically.  The scars are deeper and just as hard  to heal if not harder.  Take the time you need to correct the situation and return to the children the mother they deserve. Sisters develope a special bond.  It is possible that if you dont change they both will hold a grudge against you that you cant break. I am 30yrs old so I am old enough to process my feeling for they really are. I feel the pain that is inflicted on my sister and vice versa.  After hanging on to your every word I see that the biggest thing that Victoria has that is disfiguring her is her mother. Don't let these children continue on a vicous and destructive path. You took the initial step now just jump.  I will pray for you and your children. 

When I watched the show on Friday I couldn't believe what I was hearing.  It made me sick it's good she seen it was a problem. No matter what victoria is a part of her mother and I found her to be so high on herself it made me so frustrated. I have four kids and would never ever pull what she has. I just can't even comperhend how she could be that ignorant. Hopefuly she get's help or that poor little girl will be a very sad little girl. That woman Debi should walk a day in Victoria's shoes and then maybe she would see differently. No matter if you favour one child over the other it's very, very important to treat all of your children with love and respect. Debi grow up!! Your not's so great yourself hearing the things you said made me think you were a very ugly person so now that your in your daughter's so called class maybe you'll see how she feels. 

  

I know a lot of you are not happy with Dr.phil's comment about Jay looking "perverted)..but if it bothers you all so much, go on one of his Debate Dr.Phil shows! That would be interesting to see. Hey, u would probably get on. 

  

I think the show was quite interesting today..the mothers were disgusting. When that other mom, who doesn't let her daughter play with "ugly" kids, came on stage i was like booing her from my t.v set. And when she made the Dr.Phil/rRobin comment, i was just as shocked as Robin was. I think we had the same facial expression on!  

Debi should be ashame of herself to judge a child that she birth into this world. The child is not responsible for what she looks like. If anyone is ugly it is Debi herself for destroying her daughter's self esteem. Treatment such as this will return on her head full force. Why would she allow her daughter to sleep on the floor and everyone else sleeps in a bed. It no wonder the child acts out and tell Debi the things that she does. I would probably tell her more because she deserves to hear it. I hope Dr. Phil gives her hell for treating this child this way. If she does not watch her treatment of her daughter, child services will move in and take her out of the home. Where is her father and what does he have to say about all of this? I find it hard to believe that he is just standing by and allowing his wife to abuse this child. Shame on you Debi and you are less of a mom, and a human being. I do not believe you would like someone treating you this way. 

Grow up and see the error of your ways. The nerve of you to come on tv and publicize your lousy behavior. Everyone in your neighborhood now knows what a lousy parent you are. 

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Children services should remove Victoria from this home setting and find loving parents for her. It is not too late for her scars to heal. If she stays in this environment she will be scarred for life. Debi needs her heard examined and the nerve of her to call her daugther ugly. She is the one that wears the mask of ugliness. If Victoria is able to get away from this woman who calls herself a mother, she will be beautiful inside and out. I hope she is able to receive the counselling she needs to improve her chances at a good life.

I also felt the experiment was flawed for those reasons.  I know that it happens though...sure of it.   

It did surprise me to hear Dr Phil's comment in the end about how he looked perverted.  Kind of unkind and totally what the show was about. 

There are times when I don't even think about getting dressed. I've taken my kids to school in my P.J.'s. I'm not proud of that either. I've been depressed and find no desire to get myself  together. People do respond differently to me no matter if I have on sweats and no make-up vs. being dressed in jeans with make-up done to a tee. People tend to be nicer to me when I'm looking cute. I talk to people all the time, especially strangers. And not to take anything away from us as humans, but we do tend to talk to good looking faces. I think it has something to do with our features being even, eyes, ears, mouth, etc. 

As for the show, Jay Mc Graw in his dress up gear looked like a pervert or a child molester, whatever they look like. I know that's stereotypical, but he looked spooky. I have a soft spot for people, so I would have given him directions. I tend to talk to anyone, rich or poor, homeless or homeful, young or old.  It doesn't matter who they are, God created us all. How dare we turn our noses up at anyone? What if Jesus returned as a homeless drunk? Would we help him or turn our noses up with disgust? I think we should help, 'cause you never know a persons state of mind. You may be the only person someone talks to all day long. And what if that person is suicidal? You never know what test you may be given. All in all, HUMANITY should over rule everything. After 9-11 and the southern hurircane, you would think people would get it, but we don't. We're still a selfish nation. We'll give our money, but not our time. We'll be nice for a couple days (during the after math) but then we're giving each other the finger in traffic. Like I said, HUMANITY should over rule everything.             Peace and many Blessings to you all.