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Topic : 09/19 "Afraid of My Mom"

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Dr. Phil intervenes with a woman who's anger is out of control. Michelle calls herself a "raging lunatic,"  and says her family is falling apart because of it. When something sets her off, Michelle will go to the extreme: Following drivers on the road, screaming obscenities at her husband until he flees the house, and yelling at her daughters until they are physically sick and cowering in the closet. Michelle reveals her worst fear and Dr. Phil steps in to save this family. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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September 19, 2005, 2:54 pm PDT

Are you kidding me????

These people do not deserve children.  I thought at first that the male figure in this mess wanted to help the children, but after listening to what he had to say, heis just as nguily as her even if he doesn't scream like her.  Where is Childrens Services in this town.  Are their neighbors deaf?  One call could be all that it takes.  When a husband and wife argue, any verbal threat,handled by the right people, will land you in jail.  These kids need to tell someone whats going on and get out of that house.  The man in this family had better get some balls and get those kids out of there until she gets help or he's going to be getting a call to come to the coroners office to identify the children. With all the people in this world who want children and can't have them,  people like her don't deserve them.  My prayers are with those kids.  No matter how much help she gets,  these wonderful girls will have this in their minds forever.  The damage has already been done. 

  

 
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September 19, 2005, 2:55 pm PDT

what a jerk

Those kids should be taken away.  I bet they would have a better chance with another family member, in foster care or being a ward of the state.  I always wished I would be taken from my parents and it never happened.  Both those parents remind me of mine and it disgusts me that in this day and age, children are still treated like that.  How dare that mother use the excuse "she was abused".  Screw her!!!  I bet she didn't like what was done to her, and from what I witnessed, she is obviously so ignorant and “stupid” (as she calls her children), she didn’t learn a thing from her abusive upbringing.  She should have learned what NOT to do, but obviously she isn’t that bright.  I love my parents dearly, and am (ironically) thankful for my warped upbringing.  I now know what to do and what not to do.  I only hope that those two lovely girls do not repeat the cycle and have enough (semi-normal) family in their life to keep them going.  People like that mother, and the useless father, do not deserve to have children.

  

 

  

 
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September 19, 2005, 2:57 pm PDT

I cant believe he dropped the ball!!!

How could he let those kids stay with those parents!!!He should have had DCFS take those kids while the parents were at the show!. I cant believe people treat their kids like garbage and get away with it. I cant have children and if she doesnt want her kids, she can drop them off here and ill take care of them! 

  

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September 19, 2005, 2:57 pm PDT

09/19 "Afraid of My Mom"

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As Dr. Phil just said, "this is reportable."  I hope to heavens that this woman has been reported to child and family services.  It's true that there are two sides to every story ... and for the safety of those girls, the children need to be taken out of that woman's reach until the family it thoroughly investigated.
 I can't believe she gets to take her kids & go home.... where is Child Protective Services????/
 
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September 19, 2005, 2:58 pm PDT

Get some help

This woman needs some serious counseling and help with her anger.  There is NO excuse in this world for her treating her daughter like that, even if she was abused herself as a child.  I think she probably has not dealt with her own abuse to the degree that it is affecting her own family.  I hope she agrees to get the help she needs and wish her the best of luck. 
 
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September 19, 2005, 2:58 pm PDT

Focusing on the mom.

I was totally shocked by the sheer ignorance of this woman. I'm not justifying what the woman is doing by saying this but: you can definately tell it's the abuse from her childhood working through. The woman's actions are EVIL.  I think the husband needs to quit being a door mat to that woman. What makes me wonder is did the wife propose to the husband? I was thinking she did. The husband probably married her and won't divorce her because he's afraid she'll like butcher him or something. After all, it wasn't the husband that called Dr. Phil was it? The man of the house needs to be the man of the house. Set his foot down. Get that woman some anger management classes then see how things go from there. If it doesn't work with the couple, the man needs to divorce that monster; or else those children will need professional help. If the husband just decides to leave it be, those children will pass down that evil legacy to their children. Then the whole problem will start all over again. Someone needs to get those girls and spoil the crap out of them and love them to death. They're not living in a house, they're living in a prision. And the warden isn't nice. 

  

P.S. Who interviewed those parents and determained that they were suitable parents? If I were the adoptee...I'd be begging to go back to the foster home. 

 
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September 19, 2005, 2:58 pm PDT

Lord help her

I remember a day when I was angry with my kids. I use to yell at them. Then one day I woke up and said my kids don't deserve this. I really do love my kids and always wanted the best for them. I felt that if I did not make changes in my life my kids would grow up to be just like me. The day that I came to know the lord was day my life changed. I no longer yell at my kids and there is peace in our house. My children are very involved in the church that we attended.  It has change the whole family. I believe that this mother will change with the help from Dr. Phil. Thank God for people like him.
 
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September 19, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

TAKE THOSE KIDS AWAY -- IT IS A VICIOUS CYCLE

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Those kids should be taken away.  I bet they would have a better chance with another family member, in foster care or being a ward of the state.  I always wished I would be taken from my parents and it never happened.  Both those parents remind me of mine and it disgusts me that in this day and age, children are still treated like that.  How dare that mother use the excuse "she was abused".  Screw her!!!  I bet she didn't like what was done to her, and from what I witnessed, she is obviously so ignorant and “stupid” (as she calls her children), she didn’t learn a thing from her abusive upbringing.  She should have learned what NOT to do, but obviously she isn’t that bright.  I love my parents dearly, and am (ironically) thankful for my warped upbringing.  I now know what to do and what not to do.  I only hope that those two lovely girls do not repeat the cycle and have enough (semi-normal) family in their life to keep them going.  People like that mother, and the useless father, do not deserve to have children.

  

 

  

Boy, those poor children.  I grew up in the same type of environment also and would not wish that on any child -- nor adult for that matter.  It is amazing how either parent can sleep at night.  I still haven't forgotten the time I yelled at my little boy.  It broke my heart and it still does today.  Do these people have a conscience?  Very sad.
 
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September 19, 2005, 3:09 pm PDT

I know it too

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 Of what that kind of anger is like.    But I do.   I live with it every day.   Sorry.  I feel more sorry for the mother than I do the kids.

  

  

I grew up in a house with a lunatic father.  He was bi polar, compulsive gambler and womanizer.  When things went wrong, which they always did, he'd go after the first kid he could locate.  There is always a reason to beat your kids if you want to.  This was in the days when police and social services didn't get involved in "good peoples" affairs. 

  

I was lucky.  I had siblings and one parent who tried to protect us.  We watched out for each other and the younger ones.  The best day of our life was when he died.  It was hard to act sad at the funeral and that is sad.  I am the only one who sees him as a pathetic broken little person.  I don't talk about this with my sibs.  One suffered permanent brain damage and still rages out of control at the mention of his name. 

  

When I became a parent I was terrified that I would repeat the performance.  I knew I never wanted to hurt my kids but was never sure what to do.  They are grown now. 

  

Get reenforcements.  I had babysitters, family and freinds who could take them when I had PMS (That was a scary time)  I use to run around the block at time in my T shirt and Pajama's in -4o weather, sometimes I sat in the closet with a pillow over my head.  I can't believe they are normal. lol  I lived the fear because bi polar has a genetic component.  What if?   

  

I'm glad Dr.Phil did this one.  The public needs to know about the neurological problems.  When the anger comes and it is like hitting a brick wall and you cannot think and you need people who can help you move past it. 

  

We need safe places for the kids to go, after school programs and nurserys.  I don't think most people want to hurt their kids.  They want love and respect but don't know how t get it.  My kids joke about my fear, they know about my childhood andknow haw insecure I was raising them.  We never say good bye we say I love you. 

 
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September 19, 2005, 3:10 pm PDT

DON'T have kids UNTIL you get serious help!

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 Okay - to YOU who said this:

How can you feel more sorry for this mother than the kids who are sitting ducks?  You said "you don't know what that kind of anger is like" but her kids do though don't they?  Or they know what it's like to have it lavished on them.  Is that what you do too?  Do you feel more empathy for yourself than your kids? 
 

You OBVIOULSY don't GET IT!
 

First of all.   I don't have kids.   But as I kid,  I was yelled at and belittled. 
 

Although I'm a beautiful woman,   thin and outwardly look as though I have everything going for me.  I have NOTHING going for me.
 

As soon as I walk out of my door I'm filled with anger.  Ready to explode at the least little thing.
 

I saw so much of myself in that poor woman.   Do you think people enjoy being like this?  Give me a break!
 


 

   

Hello again. There is NO excuse for abuse. PERIOD. If you have anger like this you need to get some very sereious help! If, as you say, people don't enjoy being this way, then why continue to feel this way? Shouldn't you be getting help? Shouldn't you be in counseling? It certainly sounds like it. Obviously you don't understand that being that angry is not good! You're already starting to call people names on this board. Why? No one on here is a jerk. You're not either. Michelle is a seriously troubled person who desperately needs help. You sound like you do too! PLEASE go to mental health services? Write Dr. Phil? Do something. Please don't stay this way. It's not the way you're meant to go through life. My mom was abused when she was young too. She broke the cycle. You can too! Please get help, OK? I'm seriously worried about you. Nothing on the outside matters...it's what's inside.  

  

I'm really sorry that you feel you have nothing going for you. Each & every person has a reason & purpose to be on this earth. Have you read any of Dr. Phil's books? Perhaps you should. You have worth & you need to learn to find a way to treat yourself how you should've been treated as a child. I'm sorry you were abused. But there is no excuse at all for carrying the "tradition" forward. You'll have a lot of trouble throughout your life if you don't get some help for this anger. I don't mean to lecture, honestly. I've had trouble with my self-worth due to some past emotional abuse from my husband. I know that's not even close to what you've been through. But when we're adults we have a choice to how we want to be & live in this world.

You sound like you want to defend your anger instead of get help. Why? No one is judging you. But Michelle put herself on TV. She wrote to Dr. Phil, so she should expect people to have their opinions. It's extremely difficult for most people to watch children being treated that way & not feel very angry at the woman who is putting them through such torture! She desperately needs help. I pray she gets it. And I pray that you do too. Did you honestly not feel
anything for those children? That's not a good sign! Please think about it. Would you do the same thing to kids if you had them? Please get some help! I really want you to talk to someone. Will you at least think about it? I can't imagine going through life with that much anger. What a rotten way to live. You deserve better than that! So does Michelle, but until she gets better (much better!) she can't be around those kids! They're young & unable to defend themselves against such a large bully. Are you a bully? Do you want to keep being a victim, or choose to get help? It's up to you. I pray you get help.

Joy
 

 
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