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Topic : 09/19 "Afraid of My Mom"

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Dr. Phil intervenes with a woman who's anger is out of control. Michelle calls herself a "raging lunatic,"  and says her family is falling apart because of it. When something sets her off, Michelle will go to the extreme: Following drivers on the road, screaming obscenities at her husband until he flees the house, and yelling at her daughters until they are physically sick and cowering in the closet. Michelle reveals her worst fear and Dr. Phil steps in to save this family. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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September 19, 2005, 1:05 pm PDT

she doesn't deserve her children!!!

I think that she should definitely lose her children.  There are people in this world that can't have kids, and women like her CAN??  It doesn't make sense.  I wish Dr Phil had been harsher with her and really made her suffer.  I hope they do a follow up show so we can see what happens.
 
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September 19, 2005, 1:10 pm PDT

I am almost speachless

I am very upset about today's show.  I am glad Dr. Phil is willing to help this woman.  But I would have been much happier if he had simply removed those children from that home.   The emotional abuse they are being exposed to is outrageous and will be damaging for the rest of their lives whether their mother changes or not.  I am very shocked that Dr. Phil did not do what is in those children's best interest and remove them from that situation or at least get the ball rolling for that to happen.
 
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September 19, 2005, 1:11 pm PDT

Afraid of My Mom

This show made me so upset that I almost threw up. As a mother myself to 2 girls age 5 and 9 (and 7 months pregnant, might I add) I just wanted to jump through the TV screen and let that woman have it.  She absolutely chooses to be this way... especially since 'that is just how I am".  I really think that Dr Phil is throwing his money away by sending her to therapy... she doesn't want to be helped... she thinks she does.  As for the Dad, he is a chicken.  Perhaps he isn't looking into those little girls eyes as they look scared, lost and lonely.  How sad that all those girls have is each other to count on... no one to give them a big hug and say that they are loved.
 
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September 19, 2005, 1:12 pm PDT

SICK

I am not a therapist, but I can not believe she was allowed to go home to those children . 

  

I am so sick in my stomach; this was my life for 19 years. My mother said that same type of things to me. She screamed at me, hit me at times drawing blood, I feared for my safety to the point I would lock my bedroom door. She told me I was a mistake, said I was taking my father love away from her. The things she called me effected me for years.  

The little girls said some thing very interesting that they just had to endure for a few more years. I said the same thing. I moved 600 miles away at 19 to get away from her (my mother) and for the next 13 years I never lived with 400 miles of them. 

 

PLEASE get these children out of the environment or get that beast out of it. They will have years were they will have to work to repair themselves. It took me years, I dont even raise my voice any more, or say things in anger - I walk away calm down then address the situation.  

 

For years I said I didn't want children because I didn't want my children to hate me as much as I hated her. I remember saying that at 13 when I was lying on the floor after she had hit me.  

 

Now at 32  I realize I would never be like her and I would be a kind, loving parent. I have never treated my husband the way my mother and this women treated their husbands so I am secure in my feelings about my children (if I ever have any) 

 

I am so disappointed that she wasn’t sent to treatment right away and not allowed to see those girls. She might have realized just how close she was/is to losing them. 

 
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September 19, 2005, 1:12 pm PDT

09/19 "Afraid of My Mom"

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 Think that you should have your kids taken away until such time as you prove you are not a bully, that you are psychologically sound, and that those kids even WANT you within a restraining order's distance of them.  PERIOD.  You are not mentally ill, you are not a victim who is acting out in a subconscious way.  This is CHOICE BEHAVIOR, for BOTH PARENTS, and when you CHOOSE the behavior, you CHOOSE the results.  The result should be that you do not further damage those two girls until you can make better choices.
I completely agree with you!!
 
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September 19, 2005, 1:20 pm PDT

RUN!

I applaud the husband for doing what seems to be, almost the best he can do. This woman (haha) Needs an a** whoopin' and someone 3 feet taller, standing over her yelling and screaming. To the HUSBAND Jamie.... I suggest you take Those Children and Run as Far Away from that Woman as you can! As thier father YOU have an obligation to protect those children... and yelling at Michelle obviously isn't protecting them because the "thing" still does it? How does it make you feel knowing you can make a 7 year old coware Michelle? Your a real woman there aren'tcha? Is that your life's achievement.... Gold Star to you!! I'd bully you in a heart-beat!!! And while your sitting over the toilette about to get sick.... I'll scream in your face and make you hyperventilate some more.... there's always someone out there bigger and badder than yourself.... cause not everyone's 7.... DR. PHIL------------------------------ TAKE THOSE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope CPS was contacted about this woman to rescue those children!!!!
 
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September 19, 2005, 1:21 pm PDT

I Know How It Feels

Hi Dr Phil, 

I've been waiting to see this episode since I saw the previews. I live in a house like that and now that I am 20 years old, I am getting help with dealing with my father's anger for the last 20 years. It isn't easy and it's really tough. I feel so bad for those children, I would never ever wish that kind of stuff on anyone. Dr. Phil help the kids too...  

  

Jen 

 
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September 19, 2005, 1:24 pm PDT

Been there, done that

I have been in a home with stress and trauma and can tell you that as a child and a young adult, I suffered.  I suffered from physical, emotional, sexual abuse, and neglect.  Unfortunately, I did not start to receive help until I was 25.  My father was a deadbeat and we saw him once in awhile.  My mother was the dominating parent.   She called me dummy, told me I could not be that stupid, and was neglectful to my needs.  I was also abused by my brother (who is mentally ill).   

  

I see those children and see me.   I am on medication for the rest of my life, in long term counseling, and suffer from permanent brain damage.  A child should have a stable, secure upbringing.  A child should not have to suffer.  Also it is revealed that Michelle was abused as I was.  This seems more about mental illness and less like discipline problems.  From what was said in the show, Michelle did not get the resources that she needed as a child and grew up to be the way she is.  She can not be faulted totally, but she does need to take control of the situation and receive help so that her family can resolve their issues.   I have a son and do not want him to suffer the way I did. 

 
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September 19, 2005, 1:31 pm PDT

You and your kids need help too!

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I'm a mother who was also abused as a child but the thing is I used to be a great mother.  I spent all the time in the world protecting my children from the outside world but then when the outside world became involved with me and my family.  People threating social services due to lack of money and such.  I became overly protective of how my children dress and behave to where I turned into the ugly screaming mother only to protect my children from turning into the neighborhood rats that we have around here.  I also feel that its not the mothers complete fault of lashing out.  Maybe she screams so loud so that her husband can hear and maybe just maybe he would like to become the disipliner.  Maybe she is tired of being the one all the time with kids stuck up her butt with mommy this and mommy that.  Why can't the man just simply say leave your mother alone.I've got it.  I think I've got the same disorder because I've noticed that no matter how much work I put into my family, my husband isn't accountable for any of it.  Sure he can introduce us when its good but when social services comes knocking on the door, he just has to point the finger at her and say," well she is with the children more, thats why they don't do anything and thats why they are scared of her."  Sure he can sit ther infront of dr. phil and say I want it to stop but I really don't think he does because he's living the easy life. You saw in the video how after all was said and done with the screaming and what not , he just left and said I can't deal with this right now.  Low and behold look who is still left with the cleaning and children.  True some women should have children but most of us didn't think we were going to be raising them alone and lets face it.  She is alone, even with him there, he doesn't help or else this wouldn't be an issue.  I'm just saying not to get mad at her because she doesn't have any control and maybe she should yell at him, but maybe what she needs is friends that can help and a husband that helps instead of blaming everything on her.

As a mother watching this show & then seeing all the posters here in shock & horror of this womans behavior & then to see you defend her or relate in a way where you are justifying her (&your behavior) it means you're in troube too.  Not only are you in trouble but so are your KIDS.  While everyone is sitting here wondering why the father didn't truely come to the rescue of his daughters (frankly I thought he was at a loss of what to do) you're wondering why he didn't come to the rescue of his wife?!  I'm a mom too & I understand how difficult it can be when we're raising kids & they don't always do the right thing & they don't always listen & they can have selective hearing, but they're not doing this to be mean to mom & mom doesn't need protection.  They're the kids & SHE'S the adult.  If she needs a time out then she should be grown up enough to realize it & take it period.  She shouldn't be waiting for anything.  When you said "look who's left behind" I thought you were going to say "the kids" but you're still seeing the mother in need.  The kids have been traumatized by this woman & yes he's walking away because that's how he DOES CONTROL himself.  That was his time out he gave himself.  An adult has to recognize it & then take it.  & in reality what I heard him say was "I can not deal with *you* right now".  He was not speaking of the situation with the kids he was talking about dealing with his wife's her of control anger.  With that said it wasn't her that was left with the kids & cleaning it was the KIDS that were left with HER & the CLEANING.  You didn't see that?  

  

I watched this father kooooo to his daughter to pry her out of a closet where she was sitting hyperventilating & then proceeding to toss her cookies & you think it isn't her complete fault or that she has no control?  Certainly she does but first she has to see she's got a problem & if your view is this distorted I believe you've got to see this too.  If social services are at your house perhaps it's a distorted view that prevents you from seeing that it isn't just because of a "lack of money & such"  Unless the such is you screaming & brow beating the kids.  I think what you need is to RUN not walk to the first therapist you can find & help sort out your problems.  If it's not really a anger management problem then you'll at least have someone to talk out what's on your mind.   & all that stuff about you protecting your kids from society I do understand, but if you're verbally & emotionally abusing them they need protection from you!    

 
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September 19, 2005, 1:31 pm PDT

Why is she so angry?

Why is this woman so angry?   Obviously she must have something in her thinking that sets her off this way.  But she can't possibly know the damage she is doing to her daughters.    She says she hates everybody.  Why?
 
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