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Dr. Phil's first guest, Charlie, admits that he's a racist and it's tearing apart his family. He has stopped speaking with his daughter, Virginia, because she's pregnant with a biracial child. With the baby due any minute, will Charlie miss out on the joy that comes with a grandchild?  Then, Rujon says he's prejudiced against his own race because he "acts white." Should he be concerned about what other people think? Plus, Marla's daughter, Daphne, has been missing for six years, and her photo was never shown on the news. Marla is angry and says missing African-Americans are ignored by the media. Dr. Phil attempts to even the coverage by putting photos of missing women of color front and center. Join the discussion.

 

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September 22, 2005, 4:28 pm PDT

09/22 Are You a Racist?

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 what lies, dr phil!!!!!  There are more white people in the usa and so there are going to be more white people (numbers wise) doing everything!  BUT AS A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR POPULATION blacks are less educated and are on more tax paid for programs(welfare, headstart, prison,etc) that whites!!!!   For example  if there are 5 million whites and 1 million blacks (no, these are not exact #'s but I am sure dr phil "people" can get them) and 1million whites are on welfare programs and 500,000 blacks are too, it LOOKS LIKE there are more whites on welfare than blacks(BY SHEER NUMBERS).  If what dr phil says is true, then the same percentage of white and blacks should be on welfare and you would still get a higher number of whites on welfare.  BUT by PERCENTAGES, only 10% of the whites are on welfare and 50% of the blacks are on welfare.  Why is this?? blacks are only 14% of our population.  Very few asians are on any type of welfare.  The difference here is the culture they are brought up in.  But in the black community, welfare is a career choice.  To the asians, it brings shame to the family to beg for things you can provide yourself but are too lazy or think the government owes it to you.  How does the government owe you anything when you decided to have 6 kids by 6 different men by age 21???  Why is there no personal accountablity??  Why do these people get to make these choices(mistakes) at my taxpayer expense??  Why should I and my husband have to work 14hrs a day 6 days a week to pay for someone elses house, utilities, food, or medical care while they do nothing at all for it????  I have a hard enough time paying to support my own family.  If I can take responsibility for my house and kids financially, why can't they?? why doesn't the gov't discourage this? if you can;t afford your kids, you couldn't have had them in the first place!!!  SUPPORT your OWN kids, this includes getting 2 jobs if nessary.  I DID!!  we have NEVER recieved and handouts or gov't assistance.  I understand some people have a hard time in there lives and need temporary assistance, but not for a lifetime and for generations

I've had a full time job since I was 15. I've lived on my own since I was 16. I've always supported myself and a few others along the way. I applied for state assistance for medical for a short time to get back up cuz I got real sick. You know the letter I got back said I was refused. You can have state assitance if you've never worked, you're pregnant or have kids, over 65, or if you're an illegal alien trying to gain citizenship, or a minority.  In black and white. That's what I got. So keep working!!! The Millions on welfare depend on you! 

Anyway, I love what you put. I'm glad I'm not the only one to see things from that point of view. 

 
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September 22, 2005, 4:34 pm PDT

Gottcha

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Are you kidding?  There is WET (white entertainment television).  Of course it does not go by THAT name, it goes by NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, and the list goes on and on and on!

I get what you're saying, however, the point is this: 

Would they EVER be able to actually call it that , to ever have an actual station calling forward whites??  It's the principle of the thing. 

 

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September 22, 2005, 4:37 pm PDT

09/22 Are You a Racist?

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Anyone who believes there is no difference between the races has obviously not been around much. 

  

Rap "music", and i use the term music very loosely, glorifies what exactly? Is performed by what people?  

  

Statistis tell us many things, maybe you should go look them up on the internet. 

  

  

Apparently you have never heard of Eminem, not to mention the Beastie Boys who in my opinion are actually talented. Statistics tell us what the people who are gathering them want us to know. The internet is not exactly the most credible source for information. If you don't believe that just take a look at all of the ridiculousness that people post here.
 
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September 22, 2005, 4:39 pm PDT

09/22 Are You a Racist?

I am 54, white, and have tried all my life since I was a child, to promote evaluating people on their individual merits, not pre-judging and stereotyping them.  I lived 10 years in a very poor heavily gang controlled area north of Chicago.  I realize that the tribalism of the gang culture combined with heavy drug use made for danger there, but  I was never harmed, and except from having my radio ripped out of my truck once (not bad for 10 years), and a few broken windows, I suffered no losses, except from one of my own sons, who ran away, robbed me, and spent time in prison.  I worked a majority of black people all my life, and feel closer to their easy-going, down to earth, musical, and humorous culture than the white culture I have perceived to be more up-tight, narrow, and judgemental.  My father, and the father of my children were extremely racist, often expressing opinions like the man on your show today.  I raised my boys alone, and tried to instill at least some of my values in them, but today as adults, they remember only the gang hostility, which was mostly black against white racism,especially in high school, and racial tensions of a large metropolitan area.  They consider some  nice black kids in their childhood and some of my friends to be exceptions, and consider blacks more in light of the political stuff, reparations for slavery, etc., and have just about opposite racial values from me.  Sometimes I have to even end phone conversations with them, due to becoming upset with their views.  Is there any way anyone knows of to present this to adult children in hopes of helping them understand the goodness of diversity, or should I just leave it alone and talk about something else? 

 
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September 22, 2005, 4:39 pm PDT

not missing a thing

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I agree that racism definetly factors in, in many cases, however, I think you may be missing something. The cases of Lacy, Chandra and even the ridiculous "runaway bride" are all very sensational stories. I think this is why they made national news. ( the "runaway bride" story was never true "news") NOW, I think it's terrible that the local news stations didn't  bring Daphne's disappearance to the community. Was racism to blame? I don't know, of course, but I would bet that it did.
daphne has been misssing for 6 years, and i don't remember hearing  or seeing this on tv.  Her mother  is still in pain. and it  is racism. no matter how you slice it. the bottom line is they all were missing. and daphne is still missing. because they search for chandra and lacy and jennifer, no one is searching for this young lady. no body but her family. Everyone is a prisoner of his own experiences. No one can eliminate prejudices - just recognize them
 
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September 22, 2005, 4:41 pm PDT

"ACTING"


 

Hello; 


 

Just wanted to chime in on "The Guy Who Was 'Acting Too White'" and his "'Friend'" who was offended by that. 


 

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FUTURE PREDICTIONS  

(Educated Guess Based on "Attitude Profiling") 


 

The Future Generations of "The Guy Who is Acting Too White"  will be: 


 

>>> Doctors and lawyers and  big business corporate moguls and powerful pillars of society. 


 

And the Future Generations of "The Guy Who Feels His Friend is Acting Too White" will  be: 


 

>>> Trying to contact "The Future Generations of The Guy Who Is Acting Too White" for JOBS. 


 

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I think the "Friend" of "The Guy Who is Acting Too White," is SCARED of black people, and "The Guy Who Was Acting Too White" was NOT scared of anyone! 


 

Hopefully "The Friend" of "The Guy Who is Acting Too White" will grow up and  become as mature and confident and thoughtful and courageous as "The Guy Who Is Acting Too White." 


 

White people tend to "Act White" and black people tend to "Act Black" and hopeful someday people will learn to STOP acting, and just be themselves. 


 

Blessings, 

Damon 

 
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September 22, 2005, 4:45 pm PDT

09/22 Are You a Racist?

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I get what you're saying, however, the point is this: 

Would they EVER be able to actually call it that , to ever have an actual station calling forward whites??  It's the principle of the thing. 

You say tomato, I say tomahto...it is what it is...
 
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September 22, 2005, 4:55 pm PDT

the bottom line

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 what lies, dr phil!!!!!  There are more white people in the usa and so there are going to be more white people (numbers wise) doing everything!  BUT AS A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR POPULATION blacks are less educated and are on more tax paid for programs(welfare, headstart, prison,etc) that whites!!!!   For example  if there are 5 million whites and 1 million blacks (no, these are not exact #'s but I am sure dr phil "people" can get them) and 1million whites are on welfare programs and 500,000 blacks are too, it LOOKS LIKE there are more whites on welfare than blacks(BY SHEER NUMBERS).  If what dr phil says is true, then the same percentage of white and blacks should be on welfare and you would still get a higher number of whites on welfare.  BUT by PERCENTAGES, only 10% of the whites are on welfare and 50% of the blacks are on welfare.  Why is this?? blacks are only 14% of our population.  Very few asians are on any type of welfare.  The difference here is the culture they are brought up in.  But in the black community, welfare is a career choice.  To the asians, it brings shame to the family to beg for things you can provide yourself but are too lazy or think the government owes it to you.  How does the government owe you anything when you decided to have 6 kids by 6 different men by age 21???  Why is there no personal accountablity??  Why do these people get to make these choices(mistakes) at my taxpayer expense??  Why should I and my husband have to work 14hrs a day 6 days a week to pay for someone elses house, utilities, food, or medical care while they do nothing at all for it????  I have a hard enough time paying to support my own family.  If I can take responsibility for my house and kids financially, why can't they?? why doesn't the gov't discourage this? if you can;t afford your kids, you couldn't have had them in the first place!!!  SUPPORT your OWN kids, this includes getting 2 jobs if nessary.  I DID!!  we have NEVER recieved and handouts or gov't assistance.  I understand some people have a hard time in there lives and need temporary assistance, but not for a lifetime and for generations
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
 
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September 22, 2005, 4:55 pm PDT

Hooray for Rujon

 I just want to say that I am glad to know there are more socially evolved people in this world that I still haven't met.  I am a caucasian female with blonde hair and green eyes.  I am married to a Hmong man and my Uncle is black.  I was raised to believe that skin color is no different than hair color or eye color when it comes to determining what kind of a person someone is.  What matters is what's on the inside and I just think it's wonderful that Rujon isn't afraid to do and say whatever he feels just because some of his friends don't understand it or don't necessarily enjoy the same things as he does.  I'm fairly certain that he probably doesn't enjoy all of the same things as his friends simply by virtue of the fact that everyone is different and have different interests and different opinions about things.  His friend needs to look at from that viewpoint and I think he might be able to relax a little about the things that Rujon enjoys and believes.   Have my family and I encountered prejudice and racism, you bet.  More times than I can count.  Sometimes it bothers us but  we just have to go on and chalk it up to the ignorance and intolerance of people who don't know us.  You just keep on doing whatever gives you the most pleasure in life Rujon!
 
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September 22, 2005, 5:28 pm PDT

09/22 Are You a Racist?

Quote From: greenbird

I am no expert, however, I have a few thoughts for you...First, this country that you call home is the richest country in the world...Why?  To start, the country was taken  (quite violently I might add) from the Native Americans who were almost completely 'exterminated' from existence.  Shortly thereafter, the founding members of this country decided to reap the benefits of 'free labor'.  That's right, SLAVERY!  For hundreds of years, the country was built on the backs of slaves.  What was their great reward for building the richest nation in the world...RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION that is still rearing its ugly head today!  I know what you are thinking...slavery was hundreds of years ago...Well, it wasn't that long ago when overt racism occurred right in our own backyards, anyone heard of Jim Crowe!  Today, you may be thinking that African Americans and other minority groups have it easy in today's society, however,  there is still a strong stigma to being not white in this country.  Being a minority effects everything from where you live, to the quality of your education, the amount of wealth you accrue in your lifetime, etc. etc. etc.   The one thing that you must understand is that race is NOT biological, it is completely contructed socially and politically.  I would like for you to clarify what you mean by "The government would rather give money to others so they can come to this country but they forget the people who are natives of the USA."  Please clarify who you consider to be a native of the USA.  Please also tell me the last VICTIM of a crime who was a minority that was splashed across every news outlet (in response to this quote "they do get more coverage because they claim racism so much that people are afraid to respond to the truth".  And one last thing, what is the TRUTH that people are afraid to respond to?  I will be waiting on pins and needles for a response!  Thanks
  Hello !!!!   didn't you watch the Dr. Phil show today, there were tons of kids shown.  In our area we see lots of pictures of different races of kids that are missing.  Our area, my friends and I don't segregate one minority from the other.  That is why  I get upset that SOME black people yell racism. Everybody is blowing this out of portion !  I have never refered to EVERY SINGLE BLACK PERSON ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH !  I will say this again.....When there is someone claiming racism it ussually just HAPPENS to be a black person.  That is why I get upset about this. Our area is not racest. We love all people. So those who claim racism make me angry, I don't give a hoot what race they are.  This isn't the early 1800 to 1900's.  it is 2005 !!   The first statement  you asked about....I am talking about illegal aliens.  What did you think I ment ? Just people born of the mayflower?   People are afraid to fight against someone who claimes racism because you always loose, if not, the person claimes racism on the government.  Where ever they go all anyone has to do is say racism and they get everything handed to them on a silver platter. I just think people are taking advantage of this.
 
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