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Topic : 12/21 Shocking Teen Trends

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Created on : Friday, September 23, 2005, 04:43:49 pm
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(Original Airdate: 09/27/05) It's a game many kids call "Space Monkey," or "the choking game," but the consequences could be deadly. Robin witnessed her 14-year-old daughter and her friends giggling, choking and passing out. But what Robin saw was no laughing matter. Find out why her daughter enjoys the game, despite its dangerous repercussions. Then, Sarah's 13-year-old son made headlines when he died playing the choking game. How can she move past the guilt? Plus, Dr. Phil addresses a trend that looks innocent on the surface, but can affect teens in the worst way.  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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December 21, 2005, 2:38 pm PST

meagan lee thomas

i lost my daughter oct. 17, 2005 while she was in a behavioral hospital. she was under watch and placed in a private room.  giving a gown.  she did not want to be there.  she wanted the feel good feeling and sat down on the hospital floor and choked herself, thinking she was being watched and someone would come save her before it went to far.  but no one was there to save her.  she passed away later that monday evening.  i never knew or had any thought that my daughter would do this.  now me and my daughter morgan are trying to cope and understand why and how and why is she not here anymore.  we love her and miss her so much.  i want my daughter back so bad.  so much was taking away from her. 

  

so sarah, i can say to you that i know what you are going through and i know how you feel and the feelings your son has is the same as morgan.  they were only 18 months apart and they shared everything.  a bedroom, a bed, cloths, friends, and life.  they were 2 peas in a pod. now morgan is just 1 pea left in that pod and shes mad and angry and upset and trys to run from it to not remember.  i see it hurting her every second of the day.  as well as myself to.  i have spent the past 2 months obsessed over meagans death, trying to keep busy.  but it doesnt help. meagan is on my mind every day, second, minute, all the time. tears fall from my eyes every day and night.  i go see her everyday, sometimes i go out there twice a day.   

  

my advice for parents who have your kids alive now, be obsessed with them now, if not you will when they are not here anymore.  my 2 daughters were typical teenagers.  always on the go.  could not keep them home, wanted to be with friends all the time.  meagan lived her live the way she wanted and to the fullest.  i know she has no regrets of what shes done on this earth. 

  

i miss her very much and i love her very much and i can not wait to get to see her again. 

  

meamorja@yahoo.com 

 
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December 21, 2005, 3:18 pm PST

Never heard of this before!

I am so Glad that this was on tv, I have never heard of this before.
But honestly how stupid can children get...I won't take drugs but I'll ??CHOKE??  myself and my friends????? I don't get it. I feel sorry for the one who have lost children to this. I'm just glad it is getting attention and maybe the children will listen.

God Bless you all.
-Sarah
Colorado Springs, CO
 
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December 21, 2005, 3:23 pm PST

T his game is not new

We played this game too, only we called it the "fainting game".  Watching the show brought back many shocking memories. we would pin each other against the wall and push really hard with one hand on either side of the neck until the person passed out.  Some of my friends were able to do it to themselves too. I remember the groaning and twitching too- stupidly we thought it was funny.  WHAT WERE WE THINKING????  Sometimes as youths we tend to think we are invincable and have the mentality of "It won"t happen to me". We were not thinking. We were young and bored and stupid. I thank God that nothing happened to any one of us. Thank you Dr.Phil for educating people- this is the only way to stop this. I'am 31 years old. We played this game when we were 13-14 years old.  

 
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December 21, 2005, 3:36 pm PST

shocking teen trends

I have already sent a message to Dr. Phil's email.  I am thirty five years old and after watching the show, it reminded me of a time when I was in 7th grade.  My brothers and his friends showed me how to hperventilate myself and have someone squeeze me until I passed out.  I had no idea what I tried back then, and what my brother and his friends did could be deadly.  I was in law enforcement for over 7 years, and never came across something like that.  I am glad it is out in the open, and grateful we as kids survived such a stupid game.
 

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December 21, 2005, 4:23 pm PST

This is how my son died also!

Sarah this is a hard subject for me to discuss also.  But I just wanted to let you know that the same thing happened to me eleven years ago to my fourteen year old son, two days after his fourteenth birthday.  It was in my house while I was there and couldn't do anything about it.  I will always feel guilty about not being able to save him and that is why I went into volunteering for our town rescue squad.  If I can be there for just one person and help save their life, maybe the guilt I feel about my sons life will diminish.  Sarah look into grief counseling, it will help alot.  Also, talking to people that have gone through the same thing helps alot.  My thoughts and prayers are withyou.  JoyceLan@aol.com 

 

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December 21, 2005, 4:41 pm PST

Ignorance is bliss

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This is a sure sign that some of our youths have gotten STUPID instead of SMART! 

 I hope that THESE kids don't turn out to be our next LEADERS?!? 

Common SENSE tells you that if you pass out, it shouldn't be DONE!!! 

It is a sad day when an adult will belittle out youths.  by the way, were you a youth once? 

 
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December 21, 2005, 4:45 pm PST

The real name for this

The real name for this is "Auto-Erotic-Asphyxciation." Let's get that correct, ok? It's been around since the 70's. it's an old fetish practise that comes from Europe, and is done in clubs where there's safety equipment, such as air respirators. American children have no business doing this.
 
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December 21, 2005, 4:56 pm PST

Restricting Cell Phones

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Consider the hundreds of thousands of people who made the transition from kid to grown up without a phone...isn't the "cure" obvious with the cell phone addiction? We survived, the world was just as dangerous (oh yes it was...not in the news but oh yes it was dangerous) and when someone rings up a $399 bill just talking to his friends, obviously he doesn't need it for emergencies. I don't own a cel phone so I don't know but in all this high tech stuff, is it not possible to restrict a phone from just his number to his mum's and the police or something?  How about taking the phone away for good, not just a few weeks? He's obviously not mature enough to have one. It's not child abuse to deprive them of a cel phone.
 Yes, it IS possible to restrict the numbers on a cell phone. Two years ago, my daughter ran up a $300 phone bill (to be fair, she thought the minutes were free). At that point, since she did need the cell phone to call for rides, I read the manual. Indeed, there is a way to "tell" the phone what numbers may be dialed and ONLY those numbers. I made available only her home phone, her Grandmother's home and my husband and myself's cell numbers. And, of course, 911. We never had a problem again.

Check the manual for your teen's phone. you CAN control who s/he calls.

BTW, as for the Internet - boy they loves those IM's, don't they?? - our policy is this: IF her grades are in the "B" range, she can have Internet for a couple of hours a day (AFTER homework, natch). If they go down to "C" level, she only gets a few hours on the weekends. Any lower, and bye-bye Internet. This seems to be working.

Good Luck!

 
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December 21, 2005, 5:12 pm PST

Brain Cell Death

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The woman who lost her son stated that this is not a new game and she is right. I am 36 years old and I did this several times when I was about 17. A friend of mine and my sisters introduced us to this and we played it  in his bedroom. I'm don't remember what we called it at the time and don't know of anyone else that did this. Threre's no rational explanation for why I would do this, because of course it's very stupid, but for me maybe it didn't seem so dangerous because when I was 15 I used to pass out from time to time for no apparent reason. It felt pretty much the same. Also, as a child I had petit mall epilepsy which is sort of similar too. After seeing this show, I am concerned now about how much damage I may have caused to my brain from doing this and also from the natural fainting spells I experienced many times before that.   

  

I'm wondering what type of brain function you may actually lose from losing brain cells in this way.  Any additional info that anyone has on this would be appreciated. 

  

Donna 

  

Actually, many things kill brain cells - sunlight, orange juice and many other common things. Also, cells die on their own. The big problem with this kind of cell death is that is is caused by anoxia - oxygen deprivation. The reason there is a "high" to choking, huffing, dusting, etc. is anoxia. It causes the brain to try to compensate for the lack of oxygen and side effects of this are the spots, rush and other effects that the users seek.

So, it's not so much that brain cells are dying, it's HOW they are being killed during these activities. They literally  explode, hence the possibility of clots and strokes.
 
Also, did you know kids can use a whipped cream dispenser and those capsules of nitrous oxide that are used as a propellant for them? They suck on the dispenser nozzle and get the same effect as these other methods. Yes, it's the same gas as used in your dentist's office but it's not mixed with oxygen as it is there. Just an FYI....


 

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December 21, 2005, 5:19 pm PST

What are they thinking?

I watched the show today about kids playing "Space Monkey" or should I say "Dumb Monkey"???  These kids today think it is so much fun to watch each other pass out from a lack of oxygen.   What are they thinking of?  I've been having seizures, fainting spells, blackouts for several years and the doctors can't seem to find out why.  I keep praying to the Lord that everytime this happens to me that I will wake up to see another day.  I feel so helpless and scared.  So I find it very hard to see what fun anyone can have from playing such a stupid and dumb game that might kill themselves or someone else.   

 
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