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Created on : Friday, September 23, 2005, 04:43:49 pm
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(Original Airdate: 09/27/05) It's a game many kids call "Space Monkey," or "the choking game," but the consequences could be deadly. Robin witnessed her 14-year-old daughter and her friends giggling, choking and passing out. But what Robin saw was no laughing matter. Find out why her daughter enjoys the game, despite its dangerous repercussions. Then, Sarah's 13-year-old son made headlines when he died playing the choking game. How can she move past the guilt? Plus, Dr. Phil addresses a trend that looks innocent on the surface, but can affect teens in the worst way.  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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September 29, 2005, 5:09 am PDT

rose colored glasses...

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Whatever happened to the old fashion ways of having fun. It really is a shame that these days for teens are as hard as ever. I have a teen and just hope between work and school, she just doesn't have time to do something so stupid. My heart aches for these parents who have lost children.

I'm not advocating this in ANY WAY whatsoever, but I had to comment that when I was a teenager, the thrill that the other kids were doing was: 

  

1. seeing if you could cars passing by with rocks (or snowballs) -deadly for the drivers and passengers! 

2. jumping off of bridges into water below where you only have a small clearance of the rocks hiding just below the water -still very popular 

3. I heard of some kids hammering 2x4's into the road under the snow to see if snowplows would flip when they hit them 

4. And even some kids (and a famous comedian) admitted to jumping of the back of a moving truck into a hay bale/ water/ whatever. 

  

As a matter of fact, my friend has a boy scout handbook from (I'm estimating) the 40's or so that simply scares me with the types of things they were advocating (how to create man traps, for example, or how to twist the necks of animals in such a way as to kill them). 

  

So what I am saying is that today's trends are horrible, but the "good old days" isn't necessarily what we want, either. 

 
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September 29, 2005, 9:39 am PDT

Did this in my high school

  

We did the choking game at my high school, almost 13 years ago.  One day my friend said she had something to show me, and that's what it was.  No one even tried to stop us, teachers or staff would walk by and never commented on it.  It is a shame that the trend grew to this extent.  We only did the game for 2 weeks or so, and it phased out.   

It  is scary that children are dying from it, not understanding what they are doing.  I feel so badly for the woman who lost her son.  I hope she can reconnect with her other son, and start living again.  I plan on talking to my kids about this, so they never do it. 

  

~Ceno 

 
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September 29, 2005, 10:56 am PDT

Loss of a Friend

I went to high school with a guy that started doing this in order to get a rush, or high. He found a web site and it showed him how to choke himself without killing himself. One day he went too far. His dad walked into his bedroom to find his son hanging from the bar in his closet. He was 16 years old when he died. His dad said that he wished he had spent more time with his son that day and maybe he would still be alive. Most parent feel guilty when this happens. They feel like its there fault when there child either comits suicide or when they pass away doing something like the choking game. I just hope that teens who are involved stop doing this before its too late. 

 
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September 29, 2005, 12:02 pm PDT

Chocking Game

 Hello,

I'm a 26 years old mom from Canada. When I watched the show on Dr.Phil I was amazed but not for the same reasons.. I had totally forgot about this, I did play this game when I was in high school too that was about 14 years ago!. We used to call it  "Blasting" people would ask others to "blast" them. One boy was knowned to do it well around the school & a lot of people would ask him to. People would do it in the park, on the school property, in the bathrooms, basicly anywhere since it would take just a couple of minutes... I do remember quite well now what it was like. When you would wake up you were kind of very relaxed & at peace, like you were coming back to your body smoothly. You could kind of ear little pops while waking up. We didn't really realize what we were doing at all. We didn't realize at all that we were actually chocking ourselves, even if this is hard to miss for adults..  we just pressed on each side of the throat (not all the way around) after putting our head down a bit. Then you would fell yourself getting weak.

I though you parents should know the most information about this as possible so I decided to write about it here. I was in a very expensive private school while this happened, we did other stupid things there & fortunatly this only went on for a short period (about a week) and was replaced with something else I guess. Fortunatly nobody  got hurt. I never though this "game" was something that was going on everywhere & for so long... Lets tell our kids all about it & what it really is all about & stop this!
 
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September 29, 2005, 6:30 pm PDT

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I am highly offended by your post--I certainly wouldn't want you to work in my area!  Obviously, you have not found your child hanging in their bedroom--Both Sara and I have--please refer to my post "daughter is dead."  By the way, I TAUGHT middle school students for 18 years and they DO NOT realize the danger.  Stephanie 

I am so sorry about your daughter and what has happen but what is it that offends you ?All i wrote was that kids are not aware of the dangers of these games.No i have not found my child hanging in a bedroom !!I found your child!!I have gone to calls like your daughters and to many others as well so don't tell me i don't understand how it feels no its not my child thank god for that every day.But we do have to make the kids aware of the dangers of these games.You obviously never saw my post that i wrote about the three young guys from our community that hung themselves because of this foolish game.all were between 20and 26 i believe were their ages so i don't mean to say just young kids don't know the dangers neither do the older ones either.Sorry for your lost this is not to attack people and if you were offended well i am sorry for that.Don't see what offended you? 

 
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September 29, 2005, 6:58 pm PDT

Shocking Teen Trends

Hi Everyone, I am 22 years old, and when I heard about this on Dr.Phil, I was absolutely Shocked!!! I had no idea that these types of games are being played amoung teenagers, and it concerns me very much. I have no recollection of the chocking game or anything like that taking place when I went to highschool, but If It did, I certainly would not have taken place in it. My condulences go out to all of the families, and parents that have loss their child due to this... I have experienced loss of loved ones, and I know how hard it is to deal with... I am still young, and I can relate to wanting to experience a thrill, and have fun, but these children don't realize the dangers they're putting themselves in, and there should be more awareness about this problem! A 2 minute high can end their life, and I don't think these kids realize this! I also think that there could be more behind this... Anyone- child- or adult that is participating in this game, is doing it for a reason, possibly more than to just get high, and I think that if you know anyone doing this, you should advise them to seek help. And I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but usually when a person feels the need to get high, it's b/c they're missing something in their lifes. I hope that all parents will talk to their kids about this topic, b/c it's so important, to get the message out there, that is is Life Dangering! and if they're doing this, they can suffer from it later on in life... I wanted to Thank Dr.Phil, for putting this subject out there for America to see, I don't think I would have ever known about it, if not watching Dr.Phil. I am going to do my best to inform everyone in my surrounding of this life threatening trend! And hopefully, if we all do it together, we can save lifes.
 
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September 29, 2005, 7:05 pm PDT

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As Sara, I am a mother in pain.  I have read and responded to many posts about this matter.  I apologize if I upset anyone.  When a person posts his/her opinions and concerns, one should not take to heart--well tonight I did.  I walked into my home on August 20, 2004 and found my 19 year-old daughter hanging from her bed.  My husband and I are both in education--both teaching in middle school for a number of years--he 8, me 18--my husband is now a counselor and I am a media specialist.  Combined, we have about 44 years experience in education and caring for and cherishing children.  Courtney was a beautiful girl.  Please refer to my original post of "Daughter is Dead" for details from steph_42.  I got a little rough with some posts--I'm sorry--just trying to survive and raise my six year old.  For everyone who reads this, please pray for our family.  We are in pain and crisis. Sincerely, Stephanie
Dear Stephanie, I have read your post's and I want to express to you how sorry I am for your loss. I have recently loss my mother and father, and even though I am not a mother, and have not experienced a loss of a child, I do know what it's like to lose someone you love, and I sympathize with you. I feel your pain, and I know that even though a year has passed, you can still remember it like yesterday, and you still grieve her, and you still think about her everyday. I know how hard it can be, and how you can feel lost, and almost as if apart of you is dead as well. I'm sure you feel sometimes, how can I still be living, when I hurt so much? I relate, b/c I too still feel that way at times, but I tell you dwelling on the past, will only make you crazy, and bring you down... Celebrate your daughters life, and know that her spirit is always with you, and that you will reunite w/ her one day, and in the meantime, keep doing what you're doing, even if it's getting on here and spreading awareness about this topic! More people need to be aware of how Dangerous this is, and you have already helped me in seeing that! And now, I can relay this information to everyone I know, and hopefully prevent this from happening to anyone I know. I admire you so much for talking about what you have went through, and about what you're currently going through. I too have e mailed Dr.Phil for help, and have no responce, but if he has to respond to anyone, I believe it should be you! I want you to know that you are in my prayers, along w/ your family.... I hope that you will try to stay optimistic, and slowly rebuild your life. I wish you the best of luck with everything, and I I have prayed for your Daughter as well... Take Care.
 
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September 29, 2005, 7:40 pm PDT

thank you so much

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Dear Stephanie, I have read your post's and I want to express to you how sorry I am for your loss. I have recently loss my mother and father, and even though I am not a mother, and have not experienced a loss of a child, I do know what it's like to lose someone you love, and I sympathize with you. I feel your pain, and I know that even though a year has passed, you can still remember it like yesterday, and you still grieve her, and you still think about her everyday. I know how hard it can be, and how you can feel lost, and almost as if apart of you is dead as well. I'm sure you feel sometimes, how can I still be living, when I hurt so much? I relate, b/c I too still feel that way at times, but I tell you dwelling on the past, will only make you crazy, and bring you down... Celebrate your daughters life, and know that her spirit is always with you, and that you will reunite w/ her one day, and in the meantime, keep doing what you're doing, even if it's getting on here and spreading awareness about this topic! More people need to be aware of how Dangerous this is, and you have already helped me in seeing that! And now, I can relay this information to everyone I know, and hopefully prevent this from happening to anyone I know. I admire you so much for talking about what you have went through, and about what you're currently going through. I too have e mailed Dr.Phil for help, and have no responce, but if he has to respond to anyone, I believe it should be you! I want you to know that you are in my prayers, along w/ your family.... I hope that you will try to stay optimistic, and slowly rebuild your life. I wish you the best of luck with everything, and I I have prayed for your Daughter as well... Take Care.
Your words were like music to my ears.  Thank you for helping me tonight--I was SOO low when I responded to the message board last night.  I did post an apology--I am really pissed off by the EMT who defended himself--Thank you so much--I do need help--professional--and not my husband!  Bless his heart--he spoiled her so--you cannot imagine how much this email brings to me--some hope, some peace---I will pray for your peace, do the same for me--if you ever need to talk, I am an insomannic---email me anytime--I'll get back to you within several hours.  Thank you dear angel, Stephanie
 
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September 29, 2005, 7:43 pm PDT

this isn't a new thing

This game has been around since I was in elementary school, its not a new thing.
 
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September 30, 2005, 4:14 am PDT

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Your words were like music to my ears.  Thank you for helping me tonight--I was SOO low when I responded to the message board last night.  I did post an apology--I am really pissed off by the EMT who defended himself--Thank you so much--I do need help--professional--and not my husband!  Bless his heart--he spoiled her so--you cannot imagine how much this email brings to me--some hope, some peace---I will pray for your peace, do the same for me--if you ever need to talk, I am an insomannic---email me anytime--I'll get back to you within several hours.  Thank you dear angel, Stephanie
Hi Steph 42 if you were referring to my post to you. there are two EMT'S here so i assume you meant  my post !!! I was not defending myself i don't know what i'm suppose to be defending myself against.And if it is me you talk about?I'M a She not a He .I am a mother of a 15 yr old and a 22 yr old.Again i don't know how i offended you and if you feel like responding thats fine and if not well that's fine as well but please do not attack me for expressing my view like i said in my last post to you ,I am just trying to make everyone aware of the dangers of this game so where was i offending you please explain that part.I do not not get it at all.thanks and again i am sorry for your loss.
 
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