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(Original Air Date: 10/03/05) Imagine growing up in a cult where you are forced to have sex with strangers -- when you’re as young as 5. Dr. Phil talks to people who escaped the group known as the Children of God, and need help moving on. Meet a daughter who says she can’t forgive her father for the years of painful abuse she suffered at the hands of this cult. How can she reconnect with her dad and start trusting again? Plus, China and her husband, John, are building a new life after leaving the group, where they were forced to have sex with strangers when they were both underage. They’ve had a difficult time adjusting to the outside world, and China wonders if she should prosecute her parents for abuse. What does Dr. Phil think? Talk about the show here.

 

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October 2, 2005, 9:58 am CDT

10/03 The Family Cult

Quote From: joneses

  Um I hate to break it to you ex cultists but it's just a TV show.  Chill out 

    

No it's not just a show, it's a dooms-day cult's dooms-day. 

 
October 2, 2005, 1:14 pm CDT

As one of 1800 + young people born in the Family

Children are a heritage of the Lord & the fruit of the womb is His reward. This verse sums up my feelings of the upbringing I had in The Family, and reminds me of the responsible attitude and conduct which I saw continually portrayed by my parents and caregivers throughout that upbringing. I am a second generation Family member, the oldest girl in a family of nine children. Because of my parents’ deep faith & love for the Lord I was given the privilege to be raised in what I consider the absolute best environment in the world.

  

 

Throughout my 29 years I have never personally seen nor experienced anything unloving, dangerous or damaging to myself or any other children as I grew up in Family communities all throughout Australia, India, Japan, the Philippines and New Zealand. Absolutely no form of abuse is tolerated in The Family! We were raised and still live according to the loving, Godly principles laid out in the Bible and my present lifestyle clearly reflects that for any objective inquirer who should care to hear a firsthand account from one of the allegedly “abused, deprived victims.”

I live in Mexico along with my husband & our five children (ages 1-11 years old) who we feel are a reward & honor to raise. Our expanding missionary work to help the needy people of this country has many aspects ranging from giving physical aid, in the form of food, clothing, medical supplies, toys etc… to the more important spiritual aid, that of counseling, mentoring, comforting, encouraging, assisting and guiding; And this all for a very broad variety of class and culture within Mexico.

  

 

We daily interact with extremely diverse individuals from opposite walks of life i.e. orphans, delinquents, homeless families, college students, educators, lawyers, businessmen, policymakers, and officials just to name a few.

  

 

And this work is done by a team largely comprised of Family young adults ages 18 through 31, most of whom have been born & raised in The Family. The superior training that we received all of our lives has proved its value in the amazing things which we have accomplished. We were raised to be adaptable, relatable, versatile, persistent, industrious, have a strong work ethic, and we were well prepared to approach life so that we would excel in whatever capacity we chose.

  

 

Besides all the missionary work we of RESCATE are doing, there is the somewhat behind-the-scenes work of organizing, people handling, managing, accounting, organizing and fundraising. All vital to keeping our team of 28 people operational. And this took exceptional training as well! You try to run a business and then also live with your 27 other coworkers every day and notice the tact, concern, love, unselfishness, patience and countless other values needed to be productive. We were given that extra measure of morale needed by growing up in the Family.

  

 

I know that the Family in the best place for children to be raised because I lived it. –My husband lived it. –The 8 other second generation Family adults I live with lived it & we are all still living it. My eight brothers & sisters—apart from my eldest brother who moved on & has since become a very useful citizen to secular society—are all also still living it & making a difference each & every day in their respective mission fields.

  

 

April Fischer, second generation member of the Family International.

  

 

Age 30
Happily Married 11 years
Born & raised in The Family
Currently a missionary in Mexico with “Proyecto Rescate”(Project Rescue)

  

 

 
October 2, 2005, 1:53 pm CDT

Your Comment

Quote From: joneses

  Um I hate to break it to you ex cultists but it's just a TV show.  Chill out 

    

Why you say that, I don't know. The posters are referring to tomorrow's show. Believe me, The Family is not just some TV show. I'm a former member, and spent nineteen years in the nightmare. 

  

 
October 2, 2005, 2:29 pm CDT

Father

I am Jim, the father who appears in this show.  I did not abuse my daughter and  I am actively pursuing those who did through both an FBI and IRS investigation into The Family International.  This is a pursuit that I will never retreat from, and it is one of the reasons that I appeared on the show.  I joined The Family at the age of seventeen in 1970, and left the group with my wife and oldest daughter, Kerenina,  in 1975.  Unfortunately, my daughter's mother rejoined the group in 1975, and gave birth to Kristi, who also appears on the show, after I had left the group.  Although I did not witness any abuse of children during my tenure with The Family, I was unsuccessful in convincing the divorce court that the group might use sex as a tool to gain membership, wealth, and protection, and consequently my daughters would be at risk.  I fought long and hard for sole and separate custody of both children and before the divorce was finalized, my ex-wife kidnapped both daughters and fled to Thailand where their physical, sexual, and psychological abuse began.  This show will hopefully illuminate some of the problems that not only my daughter, but thousands of other young adults have had in reconnecting with their extended families in efforts to stabilize their lives with education, careers, and personal relationships once they have escaped the confines of The Family International.  You can visit my website at http://lamatteryresource.org for more information. 
 
October 2, 2005, 5:58 pm CDT

Cult founder on pedophilia

Quote From: robinz

Children are a heritage of the Lord & the fruit of the womb is His reward. This verse sums up my feelings of the upbringing I had in The Family, and reminds me of the responsible attitude and conduct which I saw continually portrayed by my parents and caregivers throughout that upbringing. I am a second generation Family member, the oldest girl in a family of nine children. Because of my parents’ deep faith & love for the Lord I was given the privilege to be raised in what I consider the absolute best environment in the world.

  

 

Throughout my 29 years I have never personally seen nor experienced anything unloving, dangerous or damaging to myself or any other children as I grew up in Family communities all throughout Australia, India, Japan, the Philippines and New Zealand. Absolutely no form of abuse is tolerated in The Family! We were raised and still live according to the loving, Godly principles laid out in the Bible and my present lifestyle clearly reflects that for any objective inquirer who should care to hear a firsthand account from one of the allegedly “abused, deprived victims.”

I live in Mexico along with my husband & our five children (ages 1-11 years old) who we feel are a reward & honor to raise. Our expanding missionary work to help the needy people of this country has many aspects ranging from giving physical aid, in the form of food, clothing, medical supplies, toys etc… to the more important spiritual aid, that of counseling, mentoring, comforting, encouraging, assisting and guiding; And this all for a very broad variety of class and culture within Mexico.

  

 

We daily interact with extremely diverse individuals from opposite walks of life i.e. orphans, delinquents, homeless families, college students, educators, lawyers, businessmen, policymakers, and officials just to name a few.

  

 

And this work is done by a team largely comprised of Family young adults ages 18 through 31, most of whom have been born & raised in The Family. The superior training that we received all of our lives has proved its value in the amazing things which we have accomplished. We were raised to be adaptable, relatable, versatile, persistent, industrious, have a strong work ethic, and we were well prepared to approach life so that we would excel in whatever capacity we chose.

  

 

Besides all the missionary work we of RESCATE are doing, there is the somewhat behind-the-scenes work of organizing, people handling, managing, accounting, organizing and fundraising. All vital to keeping our team of 28 people operational. And this took exceptional training as well! You try to run a business and then also live with your 27 other coworkers every day and notice the tact, concern, love, unselfishness, patience and countless other values needed to be productive. We were given that extra measure of morale needed by growing up in the Family.

  

 

I know that the Family in the best place for children to be raised because I lived it. –My husband lived it. –The 8 other second generation Family adults I live with lived it & we are all still living it. My eight brothers & sisters—apart from my eldest brother who moved on & has since become a very useful citizen to secular society—are all also still living it & making a difference each & every day in their respective mission fields.

  

 

April Fischer, second generation member of the Family International.

  

 

Age 30
Happily Married 11 years
Born & raised in The Family
Currently a missionary in Mexico with “Proyecto Rescate”(Project Rescue)

  

 

April, This was written by your founder David Berg. Attached is a link to a original scan of the document. It seems to suggest that pedophillia is understandable if men are not getting sex from adult women. Care to comment? http://www.xfamily.org/documents/fam/ml/ml-1270.pdf From Family publication ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS!--NO.2 DO 1270 9/82 6. QUESTION: ALSO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ADULT BRETHREN LUSTING SEXUALLY AFTER CHILDREN UNDER 10 YEARS OLD!--Francis & Summer Sonrise; USA (Note: We have recieved several letters from concerned parents re: "unapproved" sex with young children--without counsel or knowledge of parents, usually done by single brothers. Any comment? TY! Love, Sara D) ANSWER: I think we've said enough about this in the Letters. But it's sad if the poor single brothers have to resort to this because of obvious sexual deprivation by older sisters! David Berg
 
October 3, 2005, 5:23 am CDT

I agree

Quote From: 101160

um i hate to break it to you but this sort of thing goes on in real life .Where are you from outer space?Do you honestly think Dr.Phil would do a show about this sort of thing if it was just a "TV SHOW" ? I highly doubt it.or your really ignorant to the fact this goes on everyday so why not make people aware of this sort of garbage .Your way off on this one .It doesn't even make sense "break it to you excultists its just  a tv show" what the heck does that mean?Oh no by the way i never was never will be a member so i'm a true blue catholic and love every minute of it so don't even go down that road .Good day to you.

Its Not just a show....And Cults do exist out there. Many of them...My mom(passed away now), sister and brother is in Texas in what I call a cult..Not one as bad as this, at least to my knowledge.  I don't know...never been there.  But it broke up the family and my mom told me if I don't go with her I would be going to Hell.  What religion tells people  to tell their Children that.  

  

ANyway I am going to watch the show as I always do. 

 
October 3, 2005, 7:22 am CDT

Remarkable young woman

This is an unbelievable and remarkable young woman!  That she can go through living in the cult with a myriad of negative life experiences, yet now is so articulate and able to voice her disagreement and disappointment is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit, and how her unwavering intention to get over this is leading her out.  I am so very impressed by her.  What a show of strength!  My prayers and very best are with her.
 
October 3, 2005, 7:23 am CDT

what has this world come to??

It makes me made that people that run these cults pray and the lonely and down and out. They brainwash people into believing in the name of GOD you need give your children to others, in some cults in they convince people to kill them selves in the name of GOD.  

Why can't some type of sting be set up, aganist this cult. Childern are being harmed in the name of  GOD, if nothing is done these childern will learn to hate the lord. We are taught at a young age GOD is here to protect us.  

 
October 3, 2005, 8:07 am CDT

Agree

Quote From: 101160

um i hate to break it to you but this sort of thing goes on in real life .Where are you from outer space?Do you honestly think Dr.Phil would do a show about this sort of thing if it was just a "TV SHOW" ? I highly doubt it.or your really ignorant to the fact this goes on everyday so why not make people aware of this sort of garbage .Your way off on this one .It doesn't even make sense "break it to you excultists its just  a tv show" what the heck does that mean?Oh no by the way i never was never will be a member so i'm a true blue catholic and love every minute of it so don't even go down that road .Good day to you.
You know i agree. Dr Phill would be hated by everyone in the frist place and maybe murder for lieing about something like this. and its real al right, i use a programe i pay for that lets me download programs and videos. allot of the time when im looking for a moive say for example, the moive scream. guess what pops up?  videos of many cults. files titled "ganged and screaming miner porn". when i see this i get sick. i just close the screen and re type what im looking for to be more clear what im tring to look for. not just trading and file sharing programs have people signed up with this stuff, but internet websites. ive seen then with from the sharing programs with hidden names to hid from the lay. ive seen code names for these as lolita, lolitas, lolicon(cartoon child porn),r@ygold. there allot of codes they have to stay hidden. but its not hard to miss. im sure other file traders have seen all this themselfs.  and this is true things. as i see it. if its said, its true or WELL BE TRUE.
 
October 3, 2005, 8:10 am CDT

10/03 The Family Cult

Quote From: robinz

Children are a heritage of the Lord & the fruit of the womb is His reward. This verse sums up my feelings of the upbringing I had in The Family, and reminds me of the responsible attitude and conduct which I saw continually portrayed by my parents and caregivers throughout that upbringing. I am a second generation Family member, the oldest girl in a family of nine children. Because of my parents’ deep faith & love for the Lord I was given the privilege to be raised in what I consider the absolute best environment in the world.

  

 

Throughout my 29 years I have never personally seen nor experienced anything unloving, dangerous or damaging to myself or any other children as I grew up in Family communities all throughout Australia, India, Japan, the Philippines and New Zealand. Absolutely no form of abuse is tolerated in The Family! We were raised and still live according to the loving, Godly principles laid out in the Bible and my present lifestyle clearly reflects that for any objective inquirer who should care to hear a firsthand account from one of the allegedly “abused, deprived victims.”

I live in Mexico along with my husband & our five children (ages 1-11 years old) who we feel are a reward & honor to raise. Our expanding missionary work to help the needy people of this country has many aspects ranging from giving physical aid, in the form of food, clothing, medical supplies, toys etc… to the more important spiritual aid, that of counseling, mentoring, comforting, encouraging, assisting and guiding; And this all for a very broad variety of class and culture within Mexico.

  

 

We daily interact with extremely diverse individuals from opposite walks of life i.e. orphans, delinquents, homeless families, college students, educators, lawyers, businessmen, policymakers, and officials just to name a few.

  

 

And this work is done by a team largely comprised of Family young adults ages 18 through 31, most of whom have been born & raised in The Family. The superior training that we received all of our lives has proved its value in the amazing things which we have accomplished. We were raised to be adaptable, relatable, versatile, persistent, industrious, have a strong work ethic, and we were well prepared to approach life so that we would excel in whatever capacity we chose.

  

 

Besides all the missionary work we of RESCATE are doing, there is the somewhat behind-the-scenes work of organizing, people handling, managing, accounting, organizing and fundraising. All vital to keeping our team of 28 people operational. And this took exceptional training as well! You try to run a business and then also live with your 27 other coworkers every day and notice the tact, concern, love, unselfishness, patience and countless other values needed to be productive. We were given that extra measure of morale needed by growing up in the Family.

  

 

I know that the Family in the best place for children to be raised because I lived it. –My husband lived it. –The 8 other second generation Family adults I live with lived it & we are all still living it. My eight brothers & sisters—apart from my eldest brother who moved on & has since become a very useful citizen to secular society—are all also still living it & making a difference each & every day in their respective mission fields.

  

 

April Fischer, second generation member of the Family International.

  

 

Age 30
Happily Married 11 years
Born & raised in The Family
Currently a missionary in Mexico with “Proyecto Rescate”(Project Rescue)

  

 

    

  www.myconclusion.net   

  

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