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Moms do everything from kissing scraped knees, to being taxi drivers to coaching soccer — all at the same time! Ginger says she is overwhelmed by all the cooking, cleaning, driving and disciplining she has to do for her five children. She says her husband doesn't pitch in because he thinks it's a woman's job. Next, Amy says that with three kids under the age of 6, her house is in utter chaos. Her husband, Jeremie, doesn't know how to help, so Dr. Phil sends in "The Mom Squad" to help Amy get her household in order. And, Lexi says the way her mom dresses embarrasses her, and she pleads with Dr. Phil to help. Learn how to organize your life and even enjoy some "Mom Time." Are you a stressed out mom? Tell us!

 

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October 5, 2005, 8:38 pm PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

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I'm sure alot of you will probably not like what I have to say, but I'm going to say it anyway. I listen to all the whinning and complaining on todays show and I'm so tired of hearing about these women that don't work outside the home talking about how bad they have it. I work, go to school, my husband works and goes to school and we have a nine year old daughter that needs my time to. I don't have anytime for myself either and I only have one child. Well, get a clue, if your husband isn't helping on the first child, what makes you think he's going to help when you have 3 or four. Besides didn't you know this going into the marriage that he wasn't going to assist especially if you are a "stay at home mom"... That should be something that is discussed before you have kids. Also, women that have small kids I have some sympathy for, but those of you that have school age kids and you are home all day doing "housework", why does the house need to be cleaned everyday? If you keep up with it regularly, it shouldn't be that much. For the lady that her husband kept having a vasectomy and it didn't work, how bout changing doctor's or the woman having her tubes tied. I guess I may be too hard on some of you, but I'm really tired of hearing about all these mom's that don't work talk about how much they have to do. Stop having so many kids....
 I found your post very offensive.   Your insinuation that women who stay at home don't work as hard as those who work outside the home do, is VERY UNTRUE!!  Before I married my husband a year and a half ago, I was a single mother of two, ages 2 and 3 at the time, attending school full time and working full time while supporting my children on my own with NO support from ANYONE!  I can tell you without a doubt that being a stay at home mom is MUCH harder than what I did before I was married.  I don't spend my entire day cleaning the house.  If you have never been a stay at home mother, then you have no idea what goes on in the home and should not be judging anyone.  I do laundry for 5 people, cook, clean, drive, go grocery shopping, change poopy diapers, breast feed, AND home school my children.  Good parents who stay home teach their children and spend time with them...they aren't sitting on their @sses eating twinkies all day.  As far as "discussing" things with your husband before you get married....LOL!!!  Men (and women too for that matter) will tell you whatever you want to hear before you get married.  Things usually change when you get married, and even the most well intentioned man can get overwhelmed when reality sets in. 
 
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October 5, 2005, 8:43 pm PDT

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He is a sweet, loving, kind man in every other way, but NOT when it comes to HELP around the house/kids :(   

  

We have been together since 1981- married since early 1985. He adopted my daughter from a first marriage who was 5 when we got together- we had a child in 85, and another in 87. We then had another in 94 (like the "Superman" on the show- mine also went in 3 times for a vasectomy! Finally they suggested exploritoy & he stopped going!) We had & lost a child in 97 & I had my tubes tied during his birth. We adopted our last child in 01.   

  

Back in the "early days" my hubby worked out of town about 50% of the time. I was the one to raise the children. Now however, he is working a job where he goes to work & actually comes home around 5!  3 of our children are grown & he missed most of it. The past 5 years I feel he CHOSE to not be a part because it was easier to let ME to it all!   

  

I took it all on & felt it was my job because I was a SAHM & didn't work. I chose to work in the home as a childcare provider about 7 years ago. I work with 8 children from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (up until a few months ago- I had them from 8:00 a.m. to 6:30 p.m.)  I searve THEM breakfast lunch & dinner- BEFORE I serve my own family. The ages range from 6 weeks to 12 years but most the time I have a lot of 2 & 3 year olds.  

  

My hubby feels it is still MY place to do EVERYTHING. A few weeks ago I looked at him and said: "WHY IS IT, that it is STILL MY job to do EVERYTHING in the home when I am now working a FULL TIME job just like YOU!?" I will literally be in TEARS with the house/kids & feeling completely overwhelmed & he will be kicked back on the recliner watching TV! I make as much as he does now- some months I make even more than he does- not that it should matter! 

  

He DID make supper the evening after I exploded on him. That was the ONLY time he did it too :(  I love him to bits in EVERY other way- but I sometimes think I'd be better off ALONE :(  No wonder woman are more  susceptible to STROKES & HEART attacks. The stress level is almost to much to breath sometimes :(   

I have learned that since I am only one person and there is only 24 hours in a day, I cannot do and be everything. So I decided a long time ago that I would do what is imporant and the rest can wait. The needs of my family certainly comes first and is my highest priority,and then when they are taken care of I will then proceed to the next most imporant thing and whatever does not get done, oh well, it will be there the next day. It is nothing for dinner dishes to sit in the sink over night and it is nothing for a load or two of folded clothes to be kept in the laundry basket waiting to be put away. If I don't get to it, then it will be there tomorrow. hubby puts his own laundry away and if he doesn't get to it, then oh well, they will be sitting in the basket waiting for him. There are even times when I don't cook dinner, I will pop in frozen left overs from the night before or we order a pizza. a pb and j sandwhich with a bowl of tomatoe serves my children just fine and dandy, quick and easy. Hubby is a big boy, so if he is hungry and dinner isn't ready, well, he knows how to walk to the freezer and pop out a dinner and pop it in the microwave. Tonight, I was feeling a little stressed (my emotions running a bit high over a family situation concerning family members not in my home) so I got out some Krogers chunky chicken noodle soup with carrots and served that for dinner for my kids along with milk and applesauce, told hubby that there was more up in the cupboard (he wwas not hungry at the time) when he needed it and that I was going out for a bit. I had a relaxing time walking the mall and got me a good chicken ceasar wrap and an ice cream cone, came home and was relaxed and had a wonderful time with my family. what I am saying here is do what you can and needs to be done and the rest will be there later. Take time out when you need to even if it means lying on the couch while the kids are playing safely. As I said before, I am lucky to have the husband that I have for he does help, just do the best that you can and remember that you are only one person and there is only 24 hours in a day and you need rest, your husabnd will just have to deal with it.
 
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October 5, 2005, 8:47 pm PDT

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I am a mother of 2girls and1 boy.  My son Triton has mood swings, he's only 3.  My husband says I baby him cause the middle child but I feel I'm harder on him. He's al time time hitting,biting pinching, throwing things at his older sister. I've done everything I could think of even throwing away every toy he owned. Time-out, spanking everything .  I feel I'm felling as a mom.  I can't stand taking him in public cause I know it's gonna be chaos. But his teacher says he is excellant in class.  Any advice   

Bridget 

I know it's hard dealing with children (I have a 3 y.o. and a newborn) so just be patient with yourself.  Given the fact that I don't know your son's history or temperament,  I can only suggest what I do with my 3 y.o son who is very sensitive.  Whenver he starts acting out, I try to find out what's REALLY bugging him.  If hes tired or hungry I just kind of ignore the tantrum and he stops.  Or I might just hug him and calmly say "Tell mommy why you are angry and I can help you."  or "Lets use words to talk about why we are mad".  Let him know it's okay to be mad and express himself, just not in a violent manner.  Kids need validation and need to know their feelings are validated and important.  They are people too.   

Good luck and like I said, this is just my 2 cents worth.  I'm sure you are a great mom and he will be fine. 

 
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October 5, 2005, 8:48 pm PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

I could totaly related to most of the women on today's show.  I am a mother of 2 girls (6 and 4).  I feel overwhelmed 99% of the time.  I really liked the suggestions about getting organized and I feel I am fairly organized, however I live with three other individuals that are not organized at all.  My problem is that of the 4 people in my house (me,my husband and two daughters) I am the only one that cleans.  I think that most of my chaos comes from the fact that my girls and husband do all the dirting and I do all the cleaning.  My husband keeps telling me that I need to just remember that our girls are still little.  I will ask my girls to please pick up their stuff, but it usually ends up in a huge battle to get them to do what I ask.   

The two ladies that suggested getting organized and having your children help out is a great idea, except that, that usually creates a whole different mess that I have to pick up in the end.  My gilrs are excited in helping but disapear when it comes time to clean.  Anyone have any suggestions??? 

 
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October 5, 2005, 9:05 pm PDT

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I get so sick of you women whinning about this topic! 

  

You don't like it? You should'nt have gotten married and had kids!! 

  

The man of the house is bringing home an income to feed the family, buy the cars, buy the clothes pay the bills, pay for college,  secure a future. 

  

Heres a news flash!!  You should'nt be spending 6-7 hours a day cleaning a house, if your house is that big I'd bet you've got an income to be able to hire a cleaning service to come twice a week. 

Floors don't need to be mopped twice a day, toilets and bathrooms can go 2 or 3 days between cleaning, kids can do chores and pickup their toys, if they don't throw them away they'll learn sooner or later. 

  

Bottom line, a lot of this cr@p is brought on by yourself. 

  

In parting, it absolutely disgusts me to see this crybaby Ginger whine about her family in a house fit for royalty with a husband that obviously makes a heck of an income and COMES HOME EVERY NIGHT! 

  

All the while I have friends in Iraq fighting for our country making maybey 15-20,000 a year with wives at home by themselves raising several children. 

If you don't like hearing it, then WHY ARE YOU HERE???? Any intelligent person could see that the purpose of this show/board was for women in this situation to vent and get support and advice from each other, not to be berated by some 'Supermom' who apparently has everything under control. Wait, do you even have children? I didn't see any mentioned in your post, so I wasn't sure. If you do, then great, good for you on being so perfect that you have it all worked out. If you don't have kids then you have NO right to judge a woman who does. Comment, yes, but to judge and criticize, absolutly not.  

  

Here's a couple of newsflashes for YOU: First, some don't plan on kids. Personally, I wasn't planning on any. However, I have three. All were very unexpected, but welcome, surprises who are the light of my life.  

Secondly, there are many, many days where the floors need to be mopped twice a day or even more. ANYONE who has a toddler knows this. There are constant spills and messes that have to be taken care of, otherwise your house will become infested with pests drawn to the nastiness on your floor.  

And thirdly...NO a bathroom cannot got 2 or 3 days between cleaning. In your house, maybe so, however, I have two little boys who use the bathroom who haven't quite learned to 'aim' yet. We're working on it and they are trying. In the meantime, I will make sure that all the pee is cleaned off of the toilet, floor and any other surface that became an innocent victim in the process. Also, their bathtub has to be cleaned almost daily b/c they are boys and boys get very, very dirty. Therefore, their bathtub gets very, very dirty. Perhaps you would suggest that I just hose them down outside? The amount of time a mother spends cleaning has nothing to do with the size of her home. The majority of the time they are cleaning and recleaning the same three or four areas of the home. Not to mention all the little 'accidents'. Have you ever cared for a toddler with diarriah (sp?) ? Toddlers are great about taking off their diapers and running around naked and before you can catch them they've made a nice little poop-trail all through the house.  

  

Oh, and throw their toys away?? That's just about the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Do you have any idea what a grandmother will do if she finds out you threw out all of the toys she spent so much time and money on for the kids??? Before you make this mistake here's another little newsflash: you can just take them away and put them up somewhere. It's just as effective and not so wasteful. Plus, trashing your child's toys in front of them (esp a small child) is just plain cruel.  

Oh, and how do you know that Ginger's husband comes home every night?? 

  

Here's the deal, I have three little boys ages three-years-old, two-years-old and three-months-old. My soon-to-be-ex-husband walked out on me for someone else when I was five months pregnant and on bedrest. Right now I am in school full-time, I work and I take care of all three boys by myself. Their father rarely, if ever, sees them. I had to take out a loan just to get a lawyer while he's blowing loads of cash on his little girlfriend. I had to move into an income base apartment that is less than 800 sq. ft. My day starts at 5:30 am and ends somewhere around 1am and that's IF everything goes well! I get less than four hours of sleep per night and even that is disrupted several times by nightmares and a hungry baby. I am barely making ends meet, my car is about to die on me and I'm not exactly sure how I'm going to pay the rent this month. However, this is not a game of who has it worse. All of these women have the right to vent. Now, I will say that I probably have a bit of a rougher time than most, but that does not give me the right to judge or berate these hard-working mothers who are just looking for an outlet to get some support from other moms. SO BACK OFF!!!!! 

 
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October 5, 2005, 9:06 pm PDT

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Quote From: mrsmedic

I used to use flylady.  But her belief that "if you can get out of bed, you can do your housework" doesn't hold true at my house.  I crawl otu of bed some days because I am a mom and my bedroom is far away from where my kids are.  When pain levels are so high, I may be out of bed, but housework? Nope. I can't.   

  

I still employ some of her ideas, but I despise shoes, and her belief that kids and hubbie will, eventually, start helping is .. well... not always true.  Hubbie hasn't picked up a thing.   

  

Flylady has some good stuff, but beware. Her emails will fill your box to overflowing.  I needed to declutter my inbox far more often than my house! LOL  (not quite) 

  

I didn't care for fly lady either. The 15 minute deal I did like and I agree aout the emails, right out redicoulous on how much they send out, I think that was my biggest turn off. I like thesystem I am now, I will do what I can and what is imporant of course and the rest will wait. :)
 
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October 5, 2005, 9:11 pm PDT

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I could totaly related to most of the women on today's show.  I am a mother of 2 girls (6 and 4).  I feel overwhelmed 99% of the time.  I really liked the suggestions about getting organized and I feel I am fairly organized, however I live with three other individuals that are not organized at all.  My problem is that of the 4 people in my house (me,my husband and two daughters) I am the only one that cleans.  I think that most of my chaos comes from the fact that my girls and husband do all the dirting and I do all the cleaning.  My husband keeps telling me that I need to just remember that our girls are still little.  I will ask my girls to please pick up their stuff, but it usually ends up in a huge battle to get them to do what I ask.   

The two ladies that suggested getting organized and having your children help out is a great idea, except that, that usually creates a whole different mess that I have to pick up in the end.  My gilrs are excited in helping but disapear when it comes time to clean.  Anyone have any suggestions??? 

Have you tried some sort of positive reinforcement? I have a three-year-old and  a two-year-old, both boys. They both make their beds every morning and they both help me clean up after dinner. They scrape plates and help me load the dishwasher. On the weekends they help me dust and do some other little things. They both have marble jars. I got two little jars and let them decorate them with stickers and other things. Then they got to pick out which color of marbles they wanted. They get marbles for the things they do. Like, if they do all of their morning stuff without too much resistance then they both get three marbles. Now, they don't do the things 'my' way, but I just had to let go of that. They are learning to help and are really proud of the fact that they made their bed or that they helped mom with dinner. When they get a certain number of marbles then they get a reward. Hope this helps!
 
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October 5, 2005, 9:28 pm PDT

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I'm sure alot of you will probably not like what I have to say, but I'm going to say it anyway. I listen to all the whinning and complaining on todays show and I'm so tired of hearing about these women that don't work outside the home talking about how bad they have it. I work, go to school, my husband works and goes to school and we have a nine year old daughter that needs my time to. I don't have anytime for myself either and I only have one child. Well, get a clue, if your husband isn't helping on the first child, what makes you think he's going to help when you have 3 or four. Besides didn't you know this going into the marriage that he wasn't going to assist especially if you are a "stay at home mom"... That should be something that is discussed before you have kids. Also, women that have small kids I have some sympathy for, but those of you that have school age kids and you are home all day doing "housework", why does the house need to be cleaned everyday? If you keep up with it regularly, it shouldn't be that much. For the lady that her husband kept having a vasectomy and it didn't work, how bout changing doctor's or the woman having her tubes tied. I guess I may be too hard on some of you, but I'm really tired of hearing about all these mom's that don't work talk about how much they have to do. Stop having so many kids....

Okay...I am going to count to ten before I respond to this one....... 

  

Well, aren't you just a selfless martyr?? You and your husband work and go to school and you have ONE child. Please....I work and go to school and I have three children, ages 3, 2 , and 3 months old. NONE of my children were planned, apparently my body metaboizes birth control too quickly so it is much less effective. Didn't realize this till after we'd tried several. Not only this, but, my husband left me for some bimbo co-worker when I was 5 months pregnant with the youngest and on bedrest. What makes you think that all of these women planned on having three or four children? You have no right to judge that until you ask them. Things happen. And don't even get me started on the comment that a husband/father shouldn't help out just b/c the mom is a stay-at-home-mom. The husband can clock in and out of his job. Once he leaves the office, he's done for the day and has no further obligation for that day. An average husband will work 40-60 hours per week. It is sooo different for a mother! Mom doesn't get to clock out and just say, "I'm done for the day!" A mother is on call 24/7. She is a chauffer, a chef, maid, nurse, teacher, accountant, personal assistant...among many other things I'm sure. Now, my father actually APPRECIATED this about my mother and went and added up all of the things she did and how much time she spent doing them. He then figured out how much she would be paid based on the average salary for each of these professions. He found that it was four times his salary and he made VERY good money. The old saying is true: A mother's work is never done. I have more going on than some of the others here, but I would NEVER consider berating or judging them based on my personal experiance. Its not right and certainly not fair.  

 
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October 5, 2005, 10:10 pm PDT

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 Meant to put this one on a different message board. 

You are so blessed to have met this wonderful man.  God Bless him and u for being such a wonderful mom.  

  

Sincerely,  

  

a stay at home mom in california 

(mom of three 10, 8, and 5) 

 
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October 5, 2005, 10:43 pm PDT

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    I think that these women should try being a single mom of 2 kids and have to work clean the house drive everyone where they need to go take the kids to school and go to work and do that for 4 straight years and then we can talk about being tired!!! 

 
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