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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 3:08 pm PDT

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I understand both sides of the story. I can see why it would be a little disturbing to observers who do not have children, to observe a woman take her breast out of her shirt and feed her child right infront of you, however i think that if it is done in a classy way(placing a blanket over you) then it is ok.Not everyone grows up in a household that feels it is a "natural thing." I personally will never breastfeed my child because I feel that it takes away from the fathers chance to bond with the child.BUT..it is up to the mother in the end.Everyone has their own opinion.
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:08 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

I think If you want to breastfeed your child you should be able to do it anywhere you please! I could not breastfeed my son I tried really hard and could not do it! but I see mothers all the time feeding there babies in the street walking, in stores restaurants etc and I think its beautifull if I was brestfedding and I was in a fancy restaurant and my sweet baby was hungry i'm gonna feed him he comes first i'm not gonna worry one bit about what other people think I have one objective and thats feeding my hungry baby!
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:08 pm PDT

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First of all, what in the world is wrong with seeing a woman's breasts?  I've asked many men why women's breasts are a sexual turn-on, when they really have nothing to do with the act of sex in a reproductive sense, and not one can answer me.  Breasts have as much to do with sex as hands, and I'm not expected to cover my hands in public when I'm using them for the purpose they were designed for.  I think women's breasts are about as sexual as a man's chest.  How many of you women can't stop staring at a well-muscled man doing yardwork shirtless?  How many of you would feel jealous if your husband's bare chest was ogled by young blond things, and would want him to "cover up." 

And as for the women who want breastfeeding mothers to pump and feed their babies with bottles... one of the reasons women breastfeed is to save money on equipment.  No bottles to wash out, sterilize, store, and heat up.  And the good hospital-grade breast pumps cost upwards of $300.  The little $50 hand-held ones are worthless if you want to pump a good amount of milk.  And if you want to avoid supply problems, the baby must be fed from the breast as often as he/she is hungry. 

I've heard people say that breastfeeding keeps moms at home, and hinders their return to work and society.  It isn't breastfeeding that hinders women, it's buttoned-up victorian attitudes like I've seen here that hinders women. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 3:08 pm PDT

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no one is debating the superiority of breastmilk,,, and i dont think you should be so arrogant about that fact,,, cuz i desperately wanted to BF my daughter but could not,,,,,,,,,,, be sensitive to others feelings just a little okay???
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I drap a blanket over my 8 week old when we go out into the sun or wind, what is the difference in that and covering up a child sucking on a breast? 
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:08 pm PDT

research

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I cannot believe you (Dr Phil) summarize abstinence  based programs as programs that "teach that having sex is a moral failure".  Have you ever reviewed the curriculum for a good abstinence based program?  Obviously not.  If the morality of the situation is even mentioned it's very minimal unless it's taught within a private christian school.  You can talk for days about the emotional, physical and financial consequences of sexual behavior outside of marriage without ever even coming close to morality.  Also,  as bad as teen pregnancy is, it's not generally fatal.  However, contracting one of the sexually transmitted diseases that are not prevented by condom use very well could be.  My daughter had a sexual encounter and now has HPV, the leading cause of cervical cancer, which condoms provide absolutely no protection against.  I would rather be helping her raise her child now than helping her die from cervical cancer in 20 years. 
I agree.  I don't think Dr. Phil did his research.  Quoting "Planned Parenthood" as his # 1 source for the stats is sick and disgusting.  They make their money from aborting babies and treating STD's.  No studies they do would ever support the need to teach Abstinance...that would put them out of business.
 

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I can't even believe this is being debated! I do not have children and I don't find breast feeding particularly beatiful but I do recognize that this is the way we were created. I have never seen any woman breast feeding whose breast is exposed, and that includes those who do not use a blanket. I find it very difficult to tell that they are breast feeding unless you are right on top of them.  

  

Get over it and move on. This is perfectly natural and banishment to public restrooms is unthinkable. 

it is indecent exposer!
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:09 pm PDT

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Sorry about that, but it is not my problem, maybe you should think of powder milk.  I used it with all three of my children and they are healthy, beautiful and smart children!   

  

Maybe you should pump more often and freeze your breast milk. You know lots of mothers do that.   

maybe, you both need to grow up, no woman should have to use a bottle, it is her right to use the most natural thing, sorry your to selfish to give your child the best thing for them! As for the smart, beautiful, and healthy, that's fine what you think, but it's a fact that breastfed babies are more intelligent, thank you!
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:09 pm PDT

Hear! Hear!

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Today's topics irritated me. Not the subject matter themselves, just the views of the guests. 

  

Breastfeeding in Public:  I have two children whom I breastfed. Did I breastfeed them in public? I sure did! If anyone was offended by my swaddling my child while covering myself up, then that is a problem that they have, not me. I think that if it makes you uncomfortable, turn away and if possible, move to a different location.  Feeding a hungry child should not be made a matter of public opinion. I just don't understand how one take offense to nursing a child in public when there are so many more social issues that need dealing with in this country. 

  

Condoms In School: I don't necessarily think that schools should distribute condoms in school.  I am all for schools implementing a more in-depth, information based sexual education program that offers resources, i.e. numbers for Planned Parenthood, etc., to the students, with parental permission.  I remember when sex ed. was being taught in my school, parents had to give permission first and then and only then were students allowed into the class.  If parents opt not to allow their child into a sex ed. class, then they should be prepared to give a home-based discussion including the risks of being sexually active and the outcomes. 

  

Can I Discipline Someone Else's Child?: In a word, NO!  I'm sure we have all seen it, the child at the grocery store throwing a tantrum because they aren't allowed to have their favorite  cereal or candy.  I have seen it several times. But not once would I dream of walking up to a complete stranger and telling them, "Get control of your child or leave!"  That is inviting a huge confrontation that will overshadow any chaos the child was causing.  I think that is up to the parents to teach their child acceptable behavior while out in public.   My children have learned that if they act up in public, i.e. screaming, hitting, we immediately go home.  It doesn't matter how close to being done with errands we are, after the first request to correct their behavior falls on deaf ears, we leave.   I don't want a stranger telling me that my children aren't disciplined enough to co-exist in their world. That's just ridiculous! 

 You are so right on each of these issues.  The one that is nearest to my heart is the breastfeeding topic.  I have a 17 month old that I breastfed in public on numerous occasions.  I was discreet about it because that is how I chose to be, but I am not disgusted or offened by women who choose not to be. 

I wish that if Dr. Phil felt that this was a necessary topic to debate that he would have had someone on the 'Against' side that had an intelligent argument rather than "It's just not attractive" or "It's not flattering".  What does that have to do with it?!  Why should women be ashamed of giving their children the nourishment that they need.  It is such a backward and disgusting way to view what breastfeeding is.  And as you said, "there are so many more social issues that need dealing with".

Breastfeeding is challenging enough for some women to have to deal with the ignorance and issues that other people have with it.


 
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October 7, 2005, 3:09 pm PDT

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Do your breasts stick out of your bathing suit???

Duz,  you seem awfully obsessed with breasts.  Is there something you'd like to share with the good doctor? 

 
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October 7, 2005, 3:09 pm PDT

14 year old girl speaks

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What could be more "ladylike" than nursing a baby???  God gave women breasts to feed and nurture children not to serve some sexual purpose.  We should be thankful that people are using them as intended!
I'm 14 and like most teenagers i am still just a little uncomfortable about peoples bodies- but i am in full support of breast feeding in public.  While watching the show i realized that Shelly was repulsed by breast feeding but could give no reason why, which disgusts me. No one is forcing you to look! Breastfeeding is not only natural, it is life giving. It should be held sacred!   I think adults who are uncomfortable with breast feeding are uncomfortable with themselves rather than others. It is more important for a baby to be fed than for an adult to be comfortable.
 
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