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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 3:29 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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Your the one who chose to have kids, and all the things that come alone with that.  Is socializing more important than feeding your child.  There is nothing unhigenic about nursing in the bathroom, it's just boring for mom.  One year old children should be able waight till you get home to nurse.  That's not their only form of nutrition. 

Number one it is the BEST form of nutrition. Number to do you like to eat where you deficate? Most animals know that, that is disgusting.
 
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I'm going to explain this through an example that happened last summer to us with our next door neighbors.  Who, by the way don't talk to anyone in the neighborhood.  Anyway, these parents happend to buy their two children ages 10 and 11 approximately, motor scooters one evening.  Instead of waiting til morning, they and their children were out in the driveway and street at ll:30 pm laughing and showing their 'overweight' kids how to work these.....one of the 'fun' new things was the horn......We listened to these horns until 12:30 pm when everything went silent. 

  

The next evening, my husband and I were in bed sleeping until the horns sounded again.  I tried to contact the parents, but they seem to live in a fortress, anyway by 10:30 I had enough and much to my husband's chagrin I stomped downstairs and out the back door.  The parents were on their deck, the kids were in the driveway......I said, listen if your parents won't tell you to stop blaring those horns I will, and if they won't do anything about it, the police will.  You kept us awake until after midnight last night and I won't permit it again tonight.l They stared at me, I said thank you, and went back into my house.  The neighborhood was quiet the rest of the night and we haven't heard this horrible horns during the night since then.   So yes, sometimes, you have to go with your gut and step in.......Maybe the parents will listen. 

Instead of waiting til morning, they and their children were out in the driveway and street at ll:30 pm laughing and showing their 'overweight' kids how to work thes 

Though I agree with your point, what's them being overweight have to do with anything? 

 
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October 7, 2005, 3:29 pm PDT

Let's Not Attack!

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Time to remind everyone that there is a person behind every screen name. Let's remember to address/debate the topic without personally attacking another member because their views are different from yours. We all can learn a lot from everyone's viewpoint, let's try to keep this discussion progressing in the manner intended. Thanks.

  

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October 7, 2005, 3:30 pm PDT

Breast Feeding in Public.

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Your the one who chose to have kids, and all the things that come alone with that.  Is socializing more important than feeding your child.  There is nothing unhigenic about nursing in the bathroom, it's just boring for mom.  One year old children should be able waight till you get home to nurse.  That's not their only form of nutrition. 

 I am totally for breast feeding mothers even in public, so long as it is discret.  However, One year old children no longer need the nutrition that comes with breat feeding or bottle feeding.   I agree, if the child is old enough to throw the blanket off, it is old enough to be told it can wait until later.  If you are still breat feeding or bottle feeding your child at the one year mark and especially after, you should talk to a doctor about the negative effects you are leaving on your child.
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:30 pm PDT

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It's a little upsetting that nowadays breastfeeding is considered "disgusting" or "unnattractive." Personally, I think that all it is is a child having its' dinner, if you don't like it, don't look. And if you find something wrong with it, what's wrong with you? As long as it's fairly well covered-up and the woman is not just whipping out her breast, you shouldn't be offended. As for the condoms in school, go for it. I'm only 14 years old, and as a young person I can tell you that a LOT of people my age are still having sex, no matter what you hear. To be honest, teaching abstinence is a load of crap. If they're going to have sex, they're GOING to have sex. If you want to hand out condoms in school you won't be "handing them out in the lunch line," as Dr. Phil implied. You would be handing them out after every sex-ed class, where you would learn about STDs, sex in general, and, obviously, abstinence. The teacher would advise abstinence, but teach about the dangers of what will happen if you have unprotected sex/sex in general. I don't find this a big deal. Having them for sale in bathrooms, as the lady on the show said, is a little ridiculous. But handing them out after learning about how/why to use them is fine. And as for disciplining other people's children, I don't find it acceptable. In certain circumstances I can see it happening, for example I often take my little cousins to the park, and if another child is being verbally mean or physically too rough, I will ask the child to "Use nice words" or "Be more gentle." That's OK. But if you're just at a restaurant, out to dinner, etc.etc. and someone's child is misbehaving, it's not acceptable for you to say anything. I have been on a twelve hour flight where a four or five-year-old child was incessantly kicking at the back of my seat. At first I just kind of turned around and smiled at the mother, and she took the hint and told him to stop. And he did, but only for about five minutes. In circumstances like that, you need to just grin and bare it. It's what I did, for almost 12 hours straight, mind you. (What a relief when he fell asleep). It's called "social boundaries," and some people should learn what they are and how not to cross them.
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:30 pm PDT

comdoms and schools?

also as a 20 year or jr in college! i dissagree,officals should not be passing out condoms in schools! its one thing in college its another in high school. i dont think they need to be accesable in a school setting! of course kids are going to have sex but i dont think promoting it in school is a good idea! 

  

on the breast feeding topic i think you should be able to breast feed in public, i think there should be some restrictions on how you go about it, such as covering up! 

 
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October 7, 2005, 3:30 pm PDT

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 Ok so usually I'm up for a good debate....but I found myself watching the show and not agreeing with either argument. The cases on this show were two extremes. I believe woman should be allowed to breast feed in public because the need of an infant, i think, goes before the needs of people who can try and ignore what makes them uncomfortable. However there is no need to be baring your breast in public because it can be done discreetly. Why is feeding your child and being considerate of others at the same time so wrong? That's what I don't understand.

About  handing out condoms in school....I do NOT think that giving teenagers condoms with the right information is a bad thing. If someone doesnt want to have sex do you honestly think that them having a condom will change their mind? Wow those abstinence programs arent working very well if all we have to do is give a kid a condom to change their mind about not having sex. If you don't teach people all of the options then how can you blame people for not protecting themselves? Give them all of the information and resources!!! Let people make their own decisions...right or wrong....and hope they make the choice to protect themselves.
 

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Quote From: mabels_mom

As a mother that breastfed, I was a little disturbed when the opposer of breast feeding in public's main concern was that it wasn't attractive!  It's not supposed to be attractive.  If someone has an unsightly scar, would she expect that to be covered too?  Would it be okay to feed a child a bottle in public?  If it would be - what is the difference?  I have never seen a breast feeding mother "take off her top" in public to breastfeed!  I would like her to come back to the show AFTER she has had children to see if her opinion has changed!!
I think it is just fine for a mother to breast feed in public.  Someone that thinks that is sexual has a big problem in my mind. There is nothing sexual about breast feeding, it is a perfectly natural way to feed a baby. 
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:30 pm PDT

i think it is natural for a breast feeding mom to feed their child anytime or anywhere. I understand that they should stay covered up but it doesnt matter to me either way.

 
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October 7, 2005, 3:30 pm PDT

to be or not to be

The show on breast feeding was an excellant presentation of the polarity that divides essentially a male baby and a grown male. Presenting two people on opposing ends of the middle was well excecuted. Neither side presented a valid argument and this, not the simple act of feeding a baby in the most natural way possible, is what makes the issue so polarized. One side shows no respect for other peoples feelings regarding the naked female breast, and the other side shows no respect for how our society sees the female breast, naked or not. The controversy is simply explained by the difference between how a male baby  views the naked breast and a grown male views a woman's breasts. Nature tells the baby it is nothing more than the dinner plate; as a grown male that same breast feeds a very different appetitie, the most basic of all animals needs, sex. For any woman to pretend a naked breast cannot be an object of sexual appetite is to deny we are human. To banish any woman to the bathroom or out of sight who needs to feed her hungry baby is equally as wrong. The sensible and responsible approach is to accept everyone's rights by simply being either politely discreet or as others suggest, the common baby blanket; either way, we all win and most importantly the baby and later in life the grown baby who's appetite and view of what was once the dinner plate has changed dramaticly.
 
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