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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 6:58 am PDT

get a grip

I can't believe the attitude of your guest that disapproved of breastfeeding in public.She must have some kind of hang-up about her own body. You have only to turn on your tv to see barely covered breasts advertising new cars, fast food and everything in between. A complete acceptance of the practice of breastfeeding teaches young people to appreciate the miracle of motherhood and the depth of a mother's love. I for one would rather that my 2 sons (ages 15 and 21) see breasts as what mother nature intended them to be than something jiggling around on mtv for  them and other men to oggle at. Keep up the great work!                    bassethound
 
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October 7, 2005, 6:58 am PDT

Breast are designed to breastfeed!

I breastfed all of my 4 children and have never been asked to leave anywhere or go to the bathroom.  (I would never eat in a bathroom or nurse a baby there!)    I have nursed at NHL hockey games, the circus, at school, church, the mall, the pool, beach on a train, on a bus, on a plane and been discreet, but sometimes my babies would get distracted and then I would be exposed, but I was okay with that.  I would just pull my top back down.  In North Carolina I have rights to feed my baby even if I am exposed.  I could never use a blanket my babies would pull it off or get too hot.   

  

I think that being discreet is good, but I don't feel that breastfeeding should be  "hidden" or a mother should feel ashamed.  People in the US need to remember that Breast are designed to breastfeed!  (I see more breasts on the covers of most grocery store magazines.)   When I see a mother in public nursing, I try to encourage her and say You're doing a great job! 

  

When you are pregnant your body is preparing to breastfeed even if you aren't.  I remember seeing a new mother who had just given birth on the news after hurricane Katrina asking how she was going to feed her baby.  The water was bad and they had no formula.  It just doesn't make any sense to me that no one would tell her that her milk would be best for the baby.   Also all the mothers that were abandoned on the highway after Rita could have benefited from breastfeeding.  Here is a great emergency breastfeeding resource.   http://www.lalecheleague.org/emergency.html 

  

Okay I could go on and on about why breast is best...  I could also tell you that before I had children or breastfed, I was one of the ignorant people who did not believe that a mother should breastfed past 6 weeks or in public.  It is amazing how much I have been educated by my children in 12 years.   

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Sandra 

 
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October 7, 2005, 6:59 am PDT

not to jump on the band wagon but...

I feel that breat feeding is natural and normal.  now if I am in a fancy place, that has a room with a comfy couch and comfortable type setting for b-feeding mom, take advantage of it.  but if not feed your baby, however when ever. if people don't like it then they don't need to look. and those people in my opinion are a bunch of prudes.
 
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October 7, 2005, 7:00 am PDT

Condoms in Schools

I trained as a crisis counselor many years ago and one of the things we learned was not to worry about asking a depressed person if they were thinking about hurting themself.  Trust me - someone that depressed has already considered the option.  Asking about it isn't going to give them the idea OR give them permission to go do it.  Asking will give them the option of opening up and talking about  what's going on with them. 

  

Same thing with kids and sex.  Asking them about it, teaching them about it, educating them about consequences and giving them the tools needed to keep safe are not going to give them the idea or give them permission to do it.  Handing a kid a condom isn't going to give them the idea .   Please, watch a little tv .   Pick up a teen magazine.  They are inundated with sex constantly.  Hormones are raging.  And do-gooder, right-wing politics have gutted sex education/health courses in the schools.  

  

 When I went thru middle school (late 1970s) we were taught about intercourse, oral sex, birth control methods, STD's, etc.  We were tested on it.  Nowadays the kids are taught only not to do it.  Abstinence.  How absolutely ridiculous.  You think parents are teaching the kids at home?  Laughable.  Most can't bring themselves to give basis information about intercourse.  Too embarressed.  Guess what...among the girls who sign abstinence contracts  the rates for unplanned pregnancy is no different than for those who don't.  OOPS!    

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:00 am PDT

Nursing Discreetly

 I understand how some women are uncomfortable nursing in public.  My twins are 8 months old and I felt very awkward nursing in public at first, especially with a blanket (it just drew more attention to me!).  And because I had twins, lots of people were also looking at the babies, and I felt very, very uncomfortable.  I know that really I shouldn't have felt strange, but I think this debate has proven that many of us are taught to view breastfeeding as strange, disgusting, or, ironically, "unnatural," and that cultural imprint can be a hard thing to overcome.  (I am very comfortable nursing in public, now, partly because hte babies and I have gotten more practice and gotten better at being discreet, and partly because I am so proud of what my body can do, and how healthy my babies are, that I am no longer afraid of being criticized!  And you know what?  Nobody has EVER told me ANYTHING negative!)

Anyway, back to the point of my post:

I did find, that as some people have mentioned here, that a sling (a soft baby carrier that holds your baby to your body) is a big help, especially when your babies are eating very often.  A sling is better than a nursing apron because 1) it doesn't scream to the world, "hey, I've got a nursing baby in here and I don't want you to see!" and 2) it allows you to hold, rock, and soothe your baby while allowing you to keep your hands free (for, in my case, the other baby!).  Many times a baby will nurse in a sling and then just snuggle to sleep right next to mommy.  The sling is big and wide enough that nothing shows, and the baby is not distracted by lights, etc., and so is able to eat more peacefully.

When the baby is older and eating less often, he or she can still be held in the sling, but upright in such a way that he or she can see and interact with the world right along with you.

There are lots of places on the web to get one, but if you live in Houston or the surrounding areas I can get you one and also help you learn how to use it with your baby.  You can e-mail me at tigerpurring@yahoo.com.  I also have a variety of other breastfeeding-friendly carriers that you can try, such as mei tais and wraps.

And to see what a good, healthy, breastfed set of twins looks like:  http://pitterpatterperiodical.blogspot.com.  I am so blessed, and so amazed at what my breasts can do!
 
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October 7, 2005, 7:01 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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Is true that breastfeeding is part of nature , but sex is part of nature also but we dont do it in the midle of the street. I belief this is a very private moment between mother and child no one else. so please cover up if in public!

I also believe that breastfeeding.  Nursing mothers should have the right to breastfeed but with a little cover.  I also agree totally with this statement about sex being natural.  How would this breastfeeding mother feel if a couple decided to have sex at the table next while she and her husband where eating out.   

  

Codoms should be part of all teenage education as well as disease and pregnancy.  As the mother of a 16 year old daugther I want her to know all the options!  We have had several discussions.  Not having sex is MY FAVORITE!  But lets all get real and remember our teenage years!  Make sure they know all the facts and have someone to turn too! 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:06 am PDT

Breastfeeding Mom

I am a mother of 2 and breastfed both children.  The first for 4 months, and 2nd for 5 1/2 months.  It was the most wonderful bonding experience for my children and I.  At first I was not comfortable feeding in public(due to lack of experience) but once I got the hang of it and was able to do it discreetly it became second nature.  Being discreet was very important to me as I'm a modest person. Also so as to not offend anyone around me.  For the woman on your show to suggest taking the baby to the bathroom to eat, I would say, "No thanks, but feel free to take YOUR meal to the bathroom and dine!"  I think women who breastfeed in public should be discreet.  But for those people who are intollerant of these moms , they should be a bit  more understanding of them and their  babies.  There has to be a point at which both sides can be comfortable. 
 
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October 7, 2005, 7:07 am PDT

Condoms at school

Dear Dr. Phil  

     I feel if we educate our kids at home and most importantly talk to our kids, not just ounce or twice but  from the time they are old enough to understand about sex, there should not be a problem with the schools giving out condoms, If we bring our kids up right and teach them right from wrong and good values,and teach them the dangers of unprotected sex and sex before marriage then we have done our part and the kids should take it from there.I had no one to  talk to me or to educate me when I was younger and I swore my kids would know what I didn't. I think I have done well with my six kids only one of my girls had a baby out of wedlock and she was 21 years old at the time,(her choise) 

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October 7, 2005, 7:08 am PDT

Breast feeding in public

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      Hi my name is Amy from south Carolina. 

Forgive my spelling this is also my first time I have done this. But I when I just watched your show on the latest debates. I just had to say one thing to that women that was against breast feeding. 

And this is , SHE WAS EXPOSING MORE OF HER BREAST WHEN SHE WAS DOING HER INTERVIEW IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA OUT SIDE! NOW  WHAT 

If I had my druthers I'd rather not see it, but I really don't feel strongly either way.  However, their use of the word "natural" bothered me.  Farting is natural, it relieves your discomfort--how wonderful, but you don't do it at the dinner table.  Making love is natural, it's "LOVE" for pete's sake! --but you don't do it in public.  Picking your nose is natural but you don't do it at the table.  No one wants to see this stuff!  "Etiquette" even asks that you chew with your mouth closed or leave the table to pick your teeth!!!  And EVERYONE does most of those things, but we all respect YOUR right not to see us doing them.  Like Dr. Phil said, social sensitivity.  There are just certain things other people MAY NOT want to see YOU do in public!  No matter HOW "natural". 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:08 am PDT

Lack of Discipline

I'm surprised that more people have not disciplined other people's children.  I should say, 'correct' other people's children.  I cannot tell you how many children I have had to correct in the baby pool this summer when they were splashing away, swimming in the 8 inches of water that was supposed to be for toddlers and they are school age children.  I don't know where their parents are and I don't feel like it's my job to go get them.  I just ask them to stop doing whatever it is that's bothering the toddlers.  The other toddlers' parents are thankful that I've spoken up.  I've done this at playgrounds as well.  If parents would take more involvement in their child's well being they would be more intuned to realizing when their child is annoying others.  I don't think you can sit back and allow your child to run wild, while bothering others and consider yourself a good parent.  It's not my job to find you to tell you that your child is obnoxious.  My job is to protect my children and ensure they have a pleasant experience, in spite of your child.   

 
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