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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 7:50 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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Shelly I want to thank you for posting on here.  there are some mother's out there that do have a political agenda.  it would be wonderful if restaurants had a family room or a mother's room families could eat (both nursing and eating themselves) in peace.  however most restaurants don't have that option.   most restaurants have a smoking section ( or used to) to accomodate the smokers so wouldn't it be reasonable to request a nursing section for mothers with young children?  In my opinion that would help this situation greatly.
I think that's excellent!! Simple compromises can solve easy problems without any fuss at all. I think it would be excellent if more people thought this way. Thank you.
 
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October 7, 2005, 7:50 pm PDT

Give them power, not an excuse.

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SEX EDUCATION IN SCHOOL.THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONDOMS BEING HANDED OUT.WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CHILDREN WHO DON'T HAVE PARENTS TO TALK TOO THEM ABOUT SEX.SOME PARENTS ARE UNCOMFORTABLE OR TO UP TIGHT TO EVEN TRY TO ADDRESS  THIS SUBJECT WITH THEIR KIDS.WHO ARE THESE KIDS GOING TO TALK TO?HOW  ELSE ARE THE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT STDS OR BIRTH CONTROL,WHEN ITS TO LATE?THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES! 

 THE SCHOOL MY DAUGHTER ATTENDS DOES PROVIDE SEX EDUCATION CLASSES AT DIFFERENT TIMES DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.THEY SEND HOME PERMISSION SLIPS TO PARENTS TO SIGN FOR THOSE WHO WANT THEIR CHILD TO ATTEND THE CLASSES.  

  I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPERTUNITY FOR CHILDREN, WHO DON'T HAVE PARENTS THAT CAN TALK TO THEM,TO LEARN ABOUT SAFE SEX OR EVEN TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT THEY ARE TO EMBARRASSED TO ASK THEIR PARENTS.THEY ALSO TALK TO THE CHILDREN ABOUT HOW HAVING SEX WILL EFFECT THEM EMOTIONALLY AND ECT.... 

 ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE THE PARENTS CHOOSE WEATHER OR NOT THEIR CHILD ATTENDS THESE CLASSES. 

Sex education needs to teach it ALL. There is no protection in condoms. I work with kids to promote healthy living and abstinence. Aids and teen pregnancy are serious but it doesn't stop there. HPV is a skin-to-skin contact virus. Some strands of HPV may lead to cervical cancer, penal cancer or anal cancer. Cervical cancer is leading to more deaths than Aids. And the more people believe that penetration is the only way to transmit viruses, the population infected by HPV will be on the rise.  

  

Place responsibly where it belongs. Parents need to take responsibility. In the end it will be the parents who will share in the physical and emotional hardships not the school board. Parents, educate yourselves then your children. I'm tired of hearing about "the talk." It should be an open discussion about sex and it should be a progressing discussion. As they find out more teach them more. Let your children know that sex is not bad. In fact it is a beautiful thing, but  there is a time and place, and that is inside a faithful committed marriage.  The fact is, if mom or dad wont tell little Jessica about sex little Johnny will. Parents be proud that they are seeking you for knowledge first. Ask your kids what they know first that way you can see what level they are on. This gives you a chance to clear up any miss information, be the first to share other things, as well as bond with your children. Your child will soon tell you their crushes and who there boyfriends/girlfriends are and their first kiss. Stay in the Loop.  

  

Passing out condoms starts young people out with low standards. Set high standards and share the benefits of being abstinent. A lot of times sex looks like a way to show love. Introduce other ways to show love, i.e. respect. Teach young people to set personal boundaries. Give them power, not an excuse. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:51 pm PDT

You call yourself a parent, well PARENT your kids for goodness sake!!!

OMG!  This woman has three kids and ZERO control.  She asked, "Should she never leave her house?"   I say  "Absolutely, not!"  She should stay home with those three uncontrollable children.  She created them and what gives her the right to inflict them on the unsuspecting pbulic.  Geeezz, the pastor had to tell her to bring only one at a time.  Clergy are usually some of the most patient people you know and he if spoke up then you know there's a problem. 

  

I have a son and it would be absolutely unacceptable to act like a nut in public.  My son doesn't have tantrums.  He know that crap will get him no where real fast.  And before someone says, but she has three kids.  Well, I've been babysitting my friend's two kids every afternoon after school.  They don't have tantrums either.  If I go somwhere with the three of them I tell them to behave before we get out of the car.  And of course they're only 6 &  7 years old so I expect a certain amount of misbehaving, but usually a stern look or a snap of my fingers brings them back inline. 

  

If my son just walked up to some stranger and kicked him, I would expect that person to respond to him in a reasonable manner.  Telling my child he shouldn't kick somebody in a normal tone of voice is not undermining my authority.  That person should let me know if I didn't see it.  My son would be immediately disciplined and made to apologize.   I have told children directly to "please stop kicking my seat" in the movie theater.  I have also asked children, "Where is your mother?"  I have also stopped a couple of fights at the bus stop.  There were no other adults around.  Once I just blew my horn and told them to go home.  The second time I put my arm between the two girls and said they need to settle it with their parents.  Luckily, they backed down without a fight.  Although they were elementary kids some are are big as me (5'1", 135lbs.).  What is in the school lunches? 

  

What I do consider under mining my authority is when someone tells my son to do one thing after I've told him something else.  Also questioning my deecision in front of him or giving him something I said he couldn't have.  Even my own mother doesn't do this to me.  If she has an issue with a decision I made she will ask me about it, where my son can't hear us.  My aunt however has done this and I immediately put her in her place.  When my son and I are around friends and family and someone reprimands him, I don't countermand them.  This will only confuse the child and as long it's in keeping with my values I won't interfere.  If  I do have a problem with it, I'll deal with it on a case by case basis. 

  

I'm not afraid to be a parent.  I'm not supposed to be my son's buddy.  Although, he has no problem coming to me to talk and I encourage it, but he knows I'm the parent and he's the child.  I want to do my best to make sure he has all the tools and knowledge to be a productive member of society.  Letting your kids disturb eveyone in a 5 mile radius is NOT productive. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:51 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in public

I feel today’s show did not give justice to breastfeeding moms.  The lady you brought on the show, to defend the breastfeeding population of America , was very extreme but had very good points when she did speak.  She tried to say her child doesn’t allow her to keep a cover on, other wise she probably would cover up like in my case.  I am disappointed you all did not elaborate on how difficult it is to stay covered. 

I am a breastfeeding mom that has tried to cover up and fight my child to keep the covers on.  I feel just as embarrassed and stressed as the person who catches a glimpse of my chest.  I have tried changing rooms, the car, and other discreet locations as well as breastfeeding tops because my child will not let me keep my chest covered.  I felt uncomfortable in all those places either because of space (kicking child) or uncomfortable seating and support and the breastfeeding tops (many different styles) did not do justice for my nursing son.  I also felt stressed trying to find a place to nurse my baby when he was in need of food.  The bathroom  is an unacceptable place to feed due to all the germs.  I had a breastfeeding friend help me to feel better about the whole situation, when she told me ‘ America sees much worse on MTV’.  When I stopped stressing my son did much better nursing and I could at least keep myself some what covered with my shirt. 

            Breastfeeding is the best nourishment for a growing baby.  When will America see the beauty in nourishing a growing baby?  A lot more moms would breastfeed if they did not have to deal with all the negative vibes and judgments.   

  

 

 

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October 7, 2005, 7:52 pm PDT

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No, it is not!

Sure it is..... 

  

What is the difference between me pulling my breast out cause I want to feel the breeze verses another female pulling hers out to shove it into her babys mouth to shut him/her up? 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:52 pm PDT

Breastmilk...it's what's for dinner TO GO

To all of you who have a gripe with public nursing...cram it! If you eat in public, so can my baby. I can't even contemplate the thought of snacking in the loo and would not consider it for my child. GROSS!!! Unsanitary!!!   I have spent 39 months now nursing my three children. They are very healthy and happy and breastmilk has played a huge part of it. The benefits of nursing to me and my children are so great that I would regret using formula unless there was a sound medical reason.   That being said, I have never seen a woman pop out an entire breast in public to feed a child. Most of us are pretty good at doing it so the average person doesn't even know or notice (not that I care if they do). How do I know this? I NEVER noticed a nursing mom (without the blanket of nursing shame) until I became one.   If you think nursing in public is gross, take a look at your own sexual issues and get over it. Nursing moms are not putting on a show for you. We are giving our children nourishment and we have lives to live and places to go. If you feel the need to be in my business, get a life - probably a shorter one than mine.
 
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October 7, 2005, 7:53 pm PDT

Disciplining other people's kids

I am a mother of 3 teenagers; my house is always full of my kids' friends and I definitely will discipline all of them.  Our house is the one where all the kids go to, they all love it here, but in order for me to let everyone in they know that I will immediately tell anyone how to behave.  I could not go their parents' every time they do something wrong.  There have been times that I just hear them talking to each other and realize they have done something wrong somewhere else,  I immediately take that chance to give them one of my lectures; they even joke about it, like they expect me to say something.  I do not feel I am doing anything wrong, kids need to know that people care, and I feel that by disciplining them these kids know that I care.  They are teenagers and they have stated they feel comfortable coming to me with any stories.  I believe that as long as you do it with love, it is better to discipline rather than turn them away and not know where they go or what they are doing. 

  

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:54 pm PDT

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I'd rather not have either, thank you. 

Then you probably shouldn't be in public places whatsoever.
 

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October 7, 2005, 7:54 pm PDT

Breast feeding in public

  

I watched the show and cannot believe that a grown woman needs to go out in public and expose her breast to make a point!! 

I had 2 babies a year and 5 days apart and I chose NOT to breast feed either one of them, because I did not want to be put in the situation of having to breast feed in public!! 

I think if you want to breast feed your child that is fine, but either make your trips out when the child is finished eating or take a bottle for public feeding. 

It is not appropriate to do many things in public places and as far as I am concerned, it isn't appropriate to bare your breasts and feed a baby in public!!  There are discrete methods, but I still 

don't appreciate looking at someone breast feeding their baby in public, anywhere, anytime!! 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:55 pm PDT

sex and breastfeeding

Breastfeeding is not about sex. It's about feeding a baby the nutrients it needs to thrive. Some people get turned on by shoes...should women not wear shoes in public? Some people get turned on by long hair...should all women wear short hair or hats in public? Oh, but wait, some people probably get turned on by hats... How ridiculous! Very little breast shows when a woman breastfeeds, and it is not a sexual act. It's a nutritional one. Then again, I guess women shouldn't eat in public, either, because some men get turned on by watching a woman eat...while we're at it, let's just lock all the women in closets so men don't get turned on... oh, and children, too, to take care of pedophiles... I think the argument that women shouldn't feed their children as God designed them to do because some men will get sexually excited or will watch with interest is absurd. Yes, breastfeeding should be done as discretely as possible, but it shouldn't be hidden in a closet. God designed breasts to feed children. That is their primary purpose. Breastfeeding a child in public is not immodest.
 
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