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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 10:49 pm PDT

You misheard it

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I can't believe that woman has the gall to haughtily  sniff that she can't control all her unruly kids, and is yet having another one!  Overpopulation aside --- which affects ALL of us in the form of traffic, home prices and scant resources --- how irresponsible to admit you can't keep the herd you've spawned under control, and yet have ANOTHER one? 

  

Yes, I believe you should have the right to correct children who are intruding on your personal space or actively screaming in your ear  in public.  Not physically correcting, perhaps, but just like you'd have the right to turn to an adult who is blaring a stereo in your ear, what makes children any more immune to being asked to keep it down than an adult?  If they have the privilige of appearing in public like everybody else, they should suffer the same level of public censure as everyone else.  

  

Anecdotally, as a kid, if an adult so much as gave me a withering glare, I'd hush and stop what I was doing.  

 I did not say that I can't control my kids.  Never once did I say that.  What I said was "I can't keep them under the kind of control that other people want".  That does NOT mean that I can't keep them under control.  It means that I have a different standard for them than marching in a straight line, eyes straight forward doing nothing outside the box.  It's impossible to get a special needs kid to do that on a regular basis. 

If you want to call me irresponsible, I could say the same to you.  How dare you post a message about me without even listening to what I said.
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October 7, 2005, 10:49 pm PDT

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Why is everone acting like breastfeeding in public is the ONLY way to nourish their children...how about a breat pump and a bottle if you know that you will be somewhere where you can't  do it safely and comfortably? People are made uncomfortable because it is a part of your body that we as strangers are not meant to see. It is not our responsibility to "look away" or shield our inquisitive children who now think it is ok to bare their breasts because they saw someone doing it in a restaurant. As long as there are alternatives, such as pumping your "natural" breastmilk then i don't understand why everyone is so upset! The woman on the show was an extremist who wanted to make a point of doing it with out doing in a way that is socially responsible. Mostly everyone here says that in their experience they were able to successfully do it with a blanket. I applaud those mothers.  

Um, I've never taken my dd anywhere unsafe. As for comfortable... well that's very subjective. I'm more worried about her comfort though. NOT everyone can do it with a blanket- if you read the responses there are several whose babies hated blankets- I have one myself. I guess I don't get applause.. how disappointing. *sigh* Guess I should have exposed myself to keep the blanket on her, huh? Please. Where is the LMAO emote?
 
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October 7, 2005, 10:49 pm PDT

Too Many Children

I am wondering about the Mom who was on the show today and admitted not  being able to control her three children.  If somebody cannot handle three children, then what would make them think they could handle four. I DO NOT want to sound unsympathetic or harsh.  I also do not want to see an extra child aborted.  I just wish that people would try to plan better.  I have so many friends who are first time Moms and feel overwhelmed.  But, they always thought they would have a large family, so they are working on number two before the first one is a year old.  I too would like to have more children and have them close in age, but  I don't think I would be doing them justice if I am unable to handle them.  I don't want to impose my opinion on others.  Let's face it, I couldn't even if I wanted to.  But, I just want some insight as to what people are thinking.  Sometimes this even applies to first time Moms.  If you are unable or unwilling to take care of a child or children, then why not put off having them for a few years and see if you are better prepared then.  Just a thought.
 

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October 7, 2005, 10:51 pm PDT

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Oh please...get over yourself.  Do you really think that any self-respecting mother would be concerned that you are offended by breastfeeding?  Or that she would be intimidated into leaving a public space because you disagree with how she manages her children?  How come your post doesn't indicate how many children you have?  (just a guess, but ummm...because you don't have any??) 

I was wondering.... Do you have any children yourself?
 
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October 7, 2005, 10:52 pm PDT

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Actually, since providing milk for babies is the practical function of the female breast, breasteeding is the most "ladylike" thing a woman can do.

You are so very right about it being 'ladylike'.  As a mother who breastfed both her children, when necessary, I did so in public but discreetly.   

  

By the amount of debate on this subject, plenty of people find it uncomfortable seeing a woman breastfeeding in public.  A little common courtesy both ways avoids anxiety and confrontations.   

  

This applies to many situations in life.  Love and respect for each other results in better relationships all round. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 10:52 pm PDT

No big deal

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i would like to hear what robin has to say and not just a few seconds but lets demonstrate it and see what the big deal is I would bring my son and feed him in the audience.  Then lets see how bad this whole breastfeeding in public really is.  get tips and suggestins
I don't think that BF in public needs to be a big deal.  I had my daughter on a plane and breastfed her on and off during the flight.  It was halfway through the flight before the stewardess or the man sitting across the aisle from me noticed that I even had a baby, much less that I was feeding her.  I was pretty lucky and she was tired and willing to nurse.  But, I've nursed her in public in front of other BF Moms and they didn't even notice.  It can be done in a way that is convenient for all.
 
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October 7, 2005, 10:54 pm PDT

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i would like to hear what robin has to say and not just a few seconds but lets demonstrate it and see what the big deal is I would bring my son and feed him in the audience.  Then lets see how bad this whole breastfeeding in public really is.  get tips and suggestins
I volunteer to come and breastfeed on the show(or in the audience)...with and without my sling. I promise unless you are really looking to be offended you wouldn't even know I am feeding my sweetie. In fact I am feeding her now at home in a place where I can be as indescreet as I choose and as it happens you can't see a thing. Not because I am that modest, but because her head covers up almost everthing.
 
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October 7, 2005, 10:55 pm PDT

Long live mothers

It's quite a job, being a mother. Breastfeeding is best, but feeding is the key. Discreet can mean a nonchalant way of just feeding the baby, without fanfare. But some babies are noisier than others. One of mine used to drink ferociously (as if her life depended on it, which it did) and it was kind of funny when she nursed. I just hummed along, often with her in a sling. Most others take their cue from the mother's attitude. That's my Canadian experience, anyway.
 
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October 7, 2005, 10:56 pm PDT

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As far as handing out condoms in school, I think that should be handled by the parents.  Schools have no business dealing with this.  Schools are in the business to teach our young people "Reading, Writing, Arithmetic, etc. etc."  Otherwise, that would be like our Public Schools telling our students what religion they should practice.  As far as Tracey goes:  Tracey, EVERYONE isn't as STUPID as you were.  I don't care if you came from a conservative family and went to church, if you can't keep your mouth shut when someone else is talking, you better believe that you are not hearing, or at least understanding, what the other person is trying to say.  I thought that you were very rude to the other person on the show by not showing her respect and actually LISTENING to what she was saying.  You were too busy flapping your jaws the whole time. 

  

On the subject of discipline, no, I do not believe that just any bystander has the right to interfere with parents and their children.  However, if a child is in a store or other public establishment, and the parents are blind to the fact that their child is freely playing with merchandise that is for sale to the general public, (such as tearing up packaging or putting things in their mouth), then I believe that it is the duty of the store employee to take matters into their own hands and hopefully enlighten the parent that they need to take responsibility of controlling their child in a public place. 

  

As far as breastfeeding in public, I think there is a time and place for everything, and openly breastfeeding in public in vulgar.  I breastfed my son for a year and he didn't starve to death because I didn't pop it out wherever or whenever I pleased. 

 

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October 7, 2005, 10:58 pm PDT

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How is my bfing putting you at risk of DEATH? You can't possibly compare the two and have an intelligent argument.

First of all breastfeeding will not kill you!! It actually sustains life. I am an occational smoker, but I don't smoke around non-smokers (especially children!!) out of respect for them. Please don't compare smoking to breastfeeding. They are on totaly different ends of the spectrum. 

 
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