Topic : 10/07 The Latest Debates

Im 18 barely, and i am forever talking to kids my age and younger.  They all tend to say that they started having sex as young as 12 and up.  To me that was a shock, i didnt know that kids that age thought about that yet.  I thought at the age of 12 it was still, boys and girls have cooties. LOL. But since I have grown up a little bit in the last year I see that the world is changing.  The "sex" issue these days starts early and never ends.  It is my choice to have sex or not. But kids these days, think the same thing. There is now over population, and there is nothing that we can do about it.  The kids do not listen to the issue of  "dont have sex''  " abstinence" means nothin to them these days. They see it as it is the cool thing to do. 'Everyone is doing it, i might as well", its just like smoking. These days people can pressure you into things because the number one thing a kid wants the most these days is to fit in. 

  

I personally think that condoms should be in schools and available to kids whenever and where ever they can be.  A lady said on the show that they should be in VENDING MACHINES, that is not a bad idea.  The vending machines believe it or not are where a kid probably spends most of their time, we are growing and food is just the one thing we need.  If we see condoms in there it would be that one chance to help put the message of, its cool just like vending machines are! The nurses at school should atleast be able to have them, in a bowl of course. Otherwise most kids would not ask for them.  I think that this was a good issue to talk about because I at one point was too scared to go into a sav-ons or a ralphs and buy condoms, i still am to this day, but i do not feel as though it is a guys job to bring a condom, when sex is going to happen. planned or unplanned. a girl should be responsible to at all times.  

  

sincerely... princess18 

Why are you commenting on my feedback?  

  

Yes, I do think other people should show more respect for other people. Is that a bad thing? How is compromise wrong? What was your point exactly?? 

There will be no babies. That is not everyones goal in life. I said "Some people find it unattractive" . Actually, it is a matter of showing respect for people around you.

  Dr. Joy... if you are  a real doctor, I believe your liscense should be revoked.  From the blatant ignorance and rude nature, I cannot believe you actually have any patients.  I have and will continue to feed my child where I choose.  I am not "taking my top off" as some suggest, and flaunting my breasts for everyone to see.  I discretely feed my child when it is necessary.  If you or anyone else have a problem with that, I apologize, but that is your problem.  I take to thought that some people are not comfortable with this, and try to keep others from seeing what is going on.  If you are staring at me that hard then I believe there is something more wrong with you than me.   

  I would never put anyone down for bottle feeding, but many bottle-feeding mothers feel threatened by breastfeeding mothers.  Many feel inadequate, and/or grossed out, by breastfeeding because of people like you, who turn it into a sexual thing.  If breastfeeding a child was sexual, than every breastfeeding mother would be found guilty of pedophilia... does that make sense to you??   

  For whoever said something about taking their top off and putting food on their chest and letting their boyfriend eat it off, that is just absurd.  You are old enough, and should be mature enough to know that is no comparison.  Also, to those who say burping, farting, and urinating are natural so why don't we do those in public, well... we do burp and fart in public, and anyone who says they don't should be struck by God right now, and as for urinating, that is just not clean. 

  I saw a friend the other day who is also 25 years old, dating, and childless, who thought it was gross to breastfeed because she, like other ignorant people, see the breast as a sexual object instead of a feeding tool.  I believe we need to incorporate more teaching of breastfeeding into our sex education classes to make younger generations understand the true functions of our bodies.  Maybe women's views of their own bodies would be higher if people weren't subjecting us to idiots like Dr. Joy. 

  

When I was breast feeding my children, I didn't want to be left out of all the fun activities.  I didn't want to be reclusive at home while my friends and family were out and about having a good time.  For those of you who are opposed to breast feeding in public, try to think of it from the mother's point of view.  Imagine that she is out to dinner with her husband, celebrating an anniversary. Just as the expensive entree is set before her, steaming hot and fragrant, the baby begins to fuss.  Why should the mother have to disappear to the bathroom to breast feed the baby while her food gets cold?  Imagine that she's having a picnic with her family at the park.  When the hungry baby fusses, she goes to find a restroom to hide the shameful fact that she is nourishing a tiny member of our society. There is no bench for her to sit on, so she sits on the toilet for 20 minutes, feeding her baby, while other women are rapping on the door, needing to use the facilities.  Meanwhile, the mother's other young children are playing in the bathroom -- scarcely a sanitary place to hang out --but mother is nervous about having them out of her sight and worries about perverts who might spirit them away when she isn't looking.  Not all mothers have husbands available at all times to help supervise toddlers and older children while mom is off breast feeding the baby.  

  

Why should mom have to be banished from sight when she is feeding her baby?   She is missing out on a sunny day out to the park, or to a restaurant, or to a play, and doesn't want to miss the best part by hiding out as though she has something to be ashamed of. 

  

If women hadn't breast fed babies since the cave man days, we wouldn't have survived as a species.   It was a matter of life and death that babies receive nourishment.  When did that natural act become a shameful thing to do?   

  

I'm in favor of people becoming DE-sensitized to breast-feeding mothers.  Get used to it! 

  

  

Too bad for you and your prudish son that arresting a woman for nursing in public is ILLEGAL in Wisconsin. 

  

Also, too bad for your son that you are too ashamed of your body to let it do what it does naturally. 

 I dont think you are being fair to Shelly, I nursed all three of my children in public, but I did place a burp cloth over their heads, I have a friend who nurses any time and any place, Her daughter will look around leaving her breast exposed. I really think this is more Shellys issue. I myself dont want to see anyone eleses breast. I have another friend who does not cover up but does it so well that I have never seen her. Some women dont see it as anything as a childs bottle but the fact is in America we all know these are sexual turn ons for men and women should not force other people to have to look away if there baby wants to take a beak from nursing and check out the sceanery. I dont think we should be banished to a bathroom stahl but we can be a little discreet. 

  

  

Why do we have to be in the bathroom.  It sounds like you have a personal issue with it. 

How do you know nothing was coming out?  

  

You realize that less than 1% of women worldwide can't breastfeed, right? 

  

If the softspot on his head was sunken in and he had stopped producing wet diapers, then he was malnourished. Otherwise, you were paranoid. 

  

Did you consult with a lactation specialist? How about LLL? Did you try oatmeal, tea and fenugreek? How about Relegan (sp?) Assuming that you really did have a diminished supply, did you use a supplimental nursing system so that whatever milk you produced went directly to your child while they were being supplimented with formula?  

  

Or did you assume you were not making enough, fed formula in a bottle because you didn't know what else to do and then assumed that your children didn't want your breast after that? 

  

You can still breastfeed even if you have to give formula. If you want to breastfeed you shouldn't give bottles because it causes nipple confusion. If you have low supply issues, you need to nurse MORE and not bottle feed. If your kid is malnourished you know because their temples, eyes and soft-spots sink in and they are lethargic and don't urinate... you can boost your supply with an SNS. 

  

There is probably no reason at all why you couldn't have breastfed. It's hard sometimes... but if you had really wanted to, you could have. 

I wish you would have taken in all that I was saying.  I said it is best to be considerate all the way around.  I do not wish to see it but I did say I have respect for breastfeeding moms.  In our family situation we were at a wedding and my relative opened her shirt to feed the child.  This is in a crowd of people who are of all opinions.  It's draws unnecessary attention and conversation to a table of people eating at a wedding banquet.  Can't we all agree that breastfeeding is wonderful but not for everyone for many reasons.  I am not worried about what other people think but I am always respectful of embarassing someone or making them feel uneasy.  I have a daughter that nurses at our home and she is always wonderful about it.  Not because we had to set aside a special discussion about it but because she is smart.  She always excuses herself without having to draw attention to herself and finds a recliner in the family room and nurses her baby in a quiet place.  I am proud of her for nursing and for having class about it.  Nobody put our nephew in a debate and yes the mother drew out the debate for what little class and consideration for others she shows.