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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 7:49 am PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

The woman who thinks breastfeeding in public is "just not that attractive" has some issues that need to be discussed with a professional.  As a mother who nursed all three children (now 20, 22, nd 25) I find it ridiculous that in this day and age people are still being "offended " by a woman breastfeeding in public. 

 Although I usually used a blanket, I see nothing wrong with a mom who chooses not to totally cover up.  I have never seen a woman with her top half off.  You just see the back of the baby's head unless you make a concerted effort to look closer.  If your guest thinks it is so easy to go somewhere else or that you can always be "portable", surely it is much easier for her to simply avert her eyes.  I am with Synnora 100%.  

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:49 am PDT

condoms in school

a gentleman a long time ago taught me something........

THINK of the color RED
THINK of the color BLUE
THINK of the color BLACK

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 DONT THINK of the color WHITE....  what is the minds reaction?  to do what you are told not to do..

i DONT give my son permission to have SEX, but i would like to know that if he chooses to that he has a place to get condoms and that he and someone else's daughter is having safe sex.


remember when your parents told you "dont hang out with So and so, and you thought yeah right, now i will hang out with So and so when ever i want".  just recently i told my son that i did NOT care for 1 of his friends, but i would not tell him he could not.  i told him that i hope that he does the right think and that other people with assume the worse of him because of the company he keeps.  and guess what, i have not seen him with this kid since........


 
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October 7, 2005, 7:49 am PDT

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Quote From: mieshagold

My opinion on the breast feeding.....it is o.k. to breast feed in public but as Dr. Phill said respect the people around you by covering up nobody said to stop breast feeding but there are alternative ways of feeding the child......remember the breast milk is what the child wants not the breast. Using breast is a way of bonding but honestly bonding can be done at home.  That is why breast pumps exist you pre-pump...and you take the bottles with you.  and if you don't have time..then you use a blanket...the key is here IS THE RESPECT FOR OTHERS FACTOR............... 

 

And about the condoms I have only one paragraph to say.................... 

 

I am 27 years old...believe me if your child is going to have sex and you say no THEY ARE GOING TO FIND A WAY REGARDLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!.........I grew up in a strict household and I didn't start until I was 18 but I was concentrated on track but only by my influence my mother didn't have nothing to do with it!!!!  For one... you should speak about sex as young as possible this is 2005!!! sex is everywhere. And if it isn't handed out in the school THE CHILD IS GOING TO GET THE CONDOM FROM A FRIEND......Believe me if they are going to have sex.....it is going to happen!!!! 

Ok as far as your comment stating that the child wants the breastmilk not the breast, that is not always the case. My son receives all of his non nutritive sucking from the breast we do not use pacifiers. So even when he is not hungry he may want the breast. He also gets a lot of skin to skin contact when nursing which is needed for his development. 

You're certainly showing your ignorance about breastfeeding by making your pumping comment. Some women have enough milk to feed multiple children but are unable to pump a single drop. There is no better way to remove milk from the breast than for a baby to nurse, there is no pump that can ever do it as efficently. I should not have to buy an expensive pump and buy bottles and coolers simply because others think I should pump. I should not risk nipple confusion, nipple preference, and difficulties in our breastfeeding relationship because others are uncomfortable with nursing in public.  

 

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October 7, 2005, 7:49 am PDT

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I am a mother of 3 girls. I have breastfed all of them. If I was out in public, I would either go to a dressing room in a store or I would cover up with something so that it wasn't out where everyone can see it. I just feel it is wrong to just whip it out and let it be in view for all to see, especially little kids or teens. It may be natural, but for teen boys it is more then what it is. I shouldn't have to explain to my girls why one lady can have her breast exposed when they can't.
 
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October 7, 2005, 7:49 am PDT

Passing condoms out in school

I would just like to briefly comment on this issue. I think teenagers are gonna be teenagers. Weather you encourage it or not, they're gonna do it if that's what they wanna do. I see no reason why schools shouldn't have condoms available. My parents never talked to me about sex issues. The little education I did get was from school. Fortunatly it was the right information for me to make the right decision.
 
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 No, sorry, I've never removed myself from church while breastfeeding, and guess what?  Nobody noticed what I was doing!  It would have been MUCH more disruptive for me to stand up and leave while my child cried or screamed out of hunger!  Why shouldn't I breastfeed in church?   Please tell me why I "shouldn't feel right" about feeding my baby when they're hungry!  That's what God created breasts for!  What I "wouldn't feel right" about-depriving my child of being nourished because of the hangups of others.

For the folks who keep mentioning that women should just pump their milk to bottle feed when they go out in public--a)there is no better way to keep up a nursing mother's milk supply than breast feeding, so supply DOES go down if you pump more than you need or want to for work or getting out of the house occasionally.  b)breast milk comes out of the body at the perfect temperature for the baby, and if you're out in public with a bottle of chilled milk, then the baby will have to wait until the mother can find somewhere to plug in a portable bottle warmer, wait for the bottle to be warmed, all the while trying to calm a fussy, crying baby.  I don't know about you, but listening to a baby cry and wail all that time is something I'd notice much more than a woman who nourishes their child when they need it.

There are non-electric ways to keep the bottles at 'body temperature'.  I fed from the breast most of the time, and the 20% of the time that I didn't, I did not experience a loss or reduction of milk. I even checked with my doctor and was told that it wouldn't reduce it if you did it regularly.  

There are downsides to public breastfeeding as well--if a mom is tense because others are uncomfortable or other children are pointing, then she is not producing the same amount of milk because of the tense disposition of her body.  

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:49 am PDT

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I have breastfed three children.  I was never comfortable breastfeeding in public because I did not want to have to deal with the rude people telling me it was inappropriate to feed my child in public.  If you are offended by a breastfeeding mother doing so in public TURN YOUR FLIPPIN HEAD!!!  Nobody says you have to WATCH the baby eat!  How about this:  If you are offended by bald(ing) men/women should they be required to wear a hairpiece in public?  If you are offended by people with multi-color hair should that be outlawed?  How about I am offended by watching you eat with your mouth wide open and talking and I approach you and tell you YOU SHOULD GO DO THAT IN THE BATHROOM?   Do you have no sense of what is and what is not appropriate in public?  Should I not kiss my husband in public?  Should I not tell my children I love them in public?  Guess what, by breastfeeding your own child, no matter the location--public/private, you are letting them know you love them.    

  

As far as I am concerned, if you are offended by seeing a child, a poor innocent HUNGRY INFANT eat.....Then just DON'T WATCH! 

What you are saying is that displaying affection in public is correct? 

SOoooo I can make Love on the table as you brestfead your baby? 

   All you will do is turn your FLIPPIN HEAD AND look away? 

      You don't have to watch US makeing Love on the table INFROUNT OF YOU..Turn your FLIPPING HEAD!!! 

In a lot of countries holding hands are not done in public. 

Going to the bathroom is not done in public BUT it is a NATURAL THING. 

 In order to have a society you MUST have RULES and MORALS agreed on by the people in that society. 

 You sure have a LOT OF HEART BURN over this subject. Wondering IF this is really what you are trying to say? 

  

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:50 am PDT

equal rights

Quote From: marfia12

I breast feed 2 children and loved every minute of it. I do not feel that all people should be exposed to it. One example is My Dad. I did not feal comfortable in front of him and neither did he so I would just drape a recieving blanket over myself. For the woman who said her child would through it off. I just feel that if you did that from the start then your child would not know the difference. What happens to the parent making the rules.  It can be done discreatly without offending others and still nurishing you child. 

Tina in CT 

Dr. Phil I think if we start telling moms they can't breestfeed in public what will be next,telling overweight people they can't eat in public or bald people they have to wear a hat in public.I guess my point is there are all kinds of things that are offensive to all kinds of people.Anyone who finds breestfeeding offensive or sexy are sick  IT IS WHAT IT IS IT'S JUST BREESTFEEDING.....I am a man and I have seen women breestfeeding in public and I did take a second look not because it was sexy but because it is a woman doing what GOD gave them the talent and right to do
 
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October 7, 2005, 7:50 am PDT

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Quote From: marfia12

I breast feed 2 children and loved every minute of it. I do not feel that all people should be exposed to it. One example is My Dad. I did not feal comfortable in front of him and neither did he so I would just drape a recieving blanket over myself. For the woman who said her child would through it off. I just feel that if you did that from the start then your child would not know the difference. What happens to the parent making the rules.  It can be done discreatly without offending others and still nurishing you child. 

Tina in CT 

Nope, doing it from the start doesn't work, my baby throws off the blanket every time!  The only thing that works is wearing ginormous shirts that are XXL. 

  

  

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:50 am PDT

breastfeeding in public

I am a breastfeeding mother and I see nothing wrong with breastfeeding in public.  There are ways to be discreet about it.  I would never intentially expose myself.  I don't understand what the woman means by saying it's not attractive.  It's not meant to be attractive, it is simply provinding nurishment for your child. A breastfeeding mother is not trying to make a fashion statement! No one makes her eat in the bathroom, so why should my child.  That is teaching your child to be ashamed, and besides that, the bathroom is not a very sanitary place to eat.  I was shocked that a woman felt it was wrong to take care of your child's needs.
 
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