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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 8:20 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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My reply to the argument that breast feeding is a natural act and that she can do it where ever she likes is actually a question.  Conception is a "natural" act too, did you also do that in public with no concern for others?  Everyone has rights, but some people like to take it to an extreme!  And what if your breast feeding made your husband or another family uncomfortable? Would you still have that "I don't care" attitude?  I bet not!
The act of conception and meeting basic needs of food, water, clothing, and shelter are COMPLETELY different and have nothing to do with the other.  And to answer your question, if my breast feeding made another relative or my spouse uncomfortable, I would not choose to deprive my child of food or delay feeding until the child was screaming their head off to appease someone who was raised in the era when they gave women shots to dry up their milk without asking (as they did with my mother-in-law) and were told by medical professionals until about 30 years ago that chemicals in a can were best.  I honestly feel sorry for people who give in to the negative pressure from friends and relatives who want to try to make them think that they need to ask permission to feed they're child when and where they are hungry.  Feeding your child when they are hungry is NOT extreme.
 
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October 7, 2005, 8:20 am PDT

Breastfeeding is for the best

        I am a 20 yr. old mom who is currently breastfeeding my 8 mo. old baby.  I am also a Breastfeeding Peer Counsilor for Athens Clarke County.  My job is to try to encourage more young low income moms to breastfeed.  The more young prenatals that I come in contact with and try to encourage to breastfeed says that their biggest fear of breastfeeding is if the baby starts getting hungry out in public.  They fear that people will look down on them about breastfeeding their child in public.  I don't think that should be an issue.  What did our ancesters do before we had bottles and pumps.  When we see people breastfeeding out in public we should praise them, because breast milk is the best gift that we can ever give our baby. Alot of people just don't know the benefits of breastfeeding.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think that we should pull our shirts and bra off to breastfeed, we should cover up with a blanket or something, but we shouldn't be disgusted by it.  God gave us breasts to breastfeed our babies.
 
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October 7, 2005, 8:20 am PDT

Breastfeeding in public

I have two children and breastfed both. Once I was approached while in our local Mall and a lady came over to me and pulled down the blanket that I had laid over myself and my daughter. I was breastfeeding my daughter and I was in a corner of the mall. No one else even noticed I was there. I was so embarrassed but could not believe that she would do such a thing. She then proceeded to tell me how I should "go to the bathroom and do that." I asked her how she would like to go and get her lunch and meet me there and how would she enjoy eating in the bathroom. She admitted to me that she would have never even known that I was breastfeeding my child if she had not came over and invaded my space. So I believe that you can breastfeed almost anywhere and if done right and you don't have any nosy people around, most would not even know what you were doing. I also feel that there is something wrong with a society that thinks there is something wrong with breastfeeding yet it is perfectly OK to hand out condoms at school or exploit women. Truly the list could go on and on. It basically comes down to moral values.  

 
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October 7, 2005, 8:20 am PDT

disciplining

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This one is driving me crazy!  ALthough I don't have children, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that children are FAR LESS disciplined today than they were 25 years ago when I was young! I get SOOOOOOOOOOOO SICK of going to a restaurant, Target, etc. and hearing screaming children (and I don't mean babies, I mean 5, 6, 7year olds)! And parents just look at their children like "Now, hush."  

  

My mom would have drug me out of the store, to the car, given me a spanking, and then we would have went back in to shop.  And no, not every child that was spanked turns out to be evil.  I am well-educated and intend to spank my own children when necessary.   

This is in reply to the woman who had three children and was asked to leave church because of disruption. 

  

I have five children, the last two being twins.  I have always been able to take my children to church, to restaurants, to shows, etc.  One look from their father or me and they knew that they were doing something wrong.  I never had to spank, although a couple of times I did use a soap mouth wash.  That happened only once for anyone of them.  They learned that they were expected to behave and not use foul language (that was the soap, and then only for the most foul.)   

 
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It should NOT be a breastfeeding mother and baby who are asked to leave.

Some people are "bothered" when they see a baby being fed with a bottle. Some parents want to protect their young children from seeing a baby being fed with a bottle. Some people feel "bothered" when they see a inter-racial couple holding hands.

Sure some people feel that way but it would NOT be appropriate (or legal) to ask a bottle feeding mother to leave a location, or to ask a inter-racial couple to leave because it "bothered" people.

I think that even people who are "bothered" by breastfeeding in public are reasonable enough that they would agree that it would be inappropriate to ask people like that to leave.

People who are "bothered" by breastfeeding should look away or find another location where they are more comfortable.

Managers at businesses can offer the people who are "bothered" a different seat, but should NOT offer the breastfeeding mother a towel. Managers at businesses should not offer that a mother feed her child in the bathroom. And managers at businesses should not demand a mother leave because "feeding a child is not allowed here."
So it is OK with the double standards to move the other people but not to offer the mother a towel? That is insane!!! The people around have every right to be bothered. If someone  was swearing at the table beside you and it was "bothering" you would you agree that you, instead of the person doing the offending behavior, be moved? No I don't think so. You need to be aware of others. How hard is it to feed your child before you leave?? Or be discreet, bring your own towel or blanket or whatever works to keep yourself covered. Here is the thing people have no problem removing a child who is acting up  but can't remove themselves when the child is hungry??
 
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There are non-electric ways to keep the bottles at 'body temperature'.  I fed from the breast most of the time, and the 20% of the time that I didn't, I did not experience a loss or reduction of milk. I even checked with my doctor and was told that it wouldn't reduce it if you did it regularly.  

Yes, there are non-electric ways to keep things warm. Sometimes doctors can give you bad advice. I hope your supply really is not affected, if you are pumping it wouldn't be as much so, especially if you're not apart from your baby. For women who work and pump at work, they find it's not easy to find enough time to pump often, and as demand goes down, so does supply. That is a fact. Incidentally, doctors will probably only give you advice for the short term. But if you intend to nurse past the 1 year mark then you need to make sure you nurse often to keep up supply, not use hormonal forms of birth control, and nurse in the night. Lots of women I know who don't do these things, which come so naturally for me, are dry well before their child's first birthday. 

I also nurse my son in church, and I have yet to be struck by lightning. My son doesn't go to the nursery either, and he is really good in church, even at 15 months. I get comments all the time on how cute and happy and well behaved he is. Babies just want to be babies and they shouldn't have to cry or get yucky bottles or artificial nipples just for others' comfort. And he hasn't had a bottle in his mouth since 6 weeks, I have also found that it is way easier and less complicated not to have to carry around extra stuff just to feed my baby when I already have two boobies. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 8:20 am PDT

Booger extraction- not an issue

 If Dr. Phil had a show about picky noses in public, could he find people to adamantly oppose public nose picking?   Would he find anyone to argue the issue?  Intense search and extraction of nose debris with the use of one's finger is a gross, and a potentially unhealthy habit.  Despite this, you don't hear people running around fussing about it, saying it should be illegal or done only in private.  Nose picking should make you lose your appetite, not nursing a baby!  If we see this activity performed in public we may think it is gross (which of course, breast-feeding is NOT, but you ar entitled to your opinion) but we turn the other way and let the person pick as he/she chooses.
And with any and all issues, there are extremes.  I choose to nurse in public with as little "flashing" as possible.  This is easy for those of us with practically no breast tissue!  Those women with voluptuous breasts have a harder time hiding them.  Give them a break!  If some women whip out a breast and introduces it to the world before baby latches on, well... it happens.  They don't care if you see, but if you do just ignore it best you can - just like you do when someone is cleaning out their nose!
 
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October 7, 2005, 8:21 am PDT

Give me a Break ! Geez.

On the subject of Breastfeeding in public.....Boobs were made portable for a reason .... HELLO!! 

If God intended women to breastfeed descreetly at home, then he wouldn't have made us "Meals on Wheels". Boobs are mobile for a reason. 

  

 To the ignorant woman who is "uncomfortable" with women who breastfeed in public I have some wonderful advice for you: 

1)  "Get over it lady" 

2)  Have some kids yourself, then come talk to me 

3) You say we breastfeeding moms are portable so we should remove ourselves from the public when feeding ---- Well, our boobs were made portable for a reason. God put our boobs on our chests for one reason, so that we could feed our babies; whenever, wherever. Our country seems to be the only country who can't get over boobs as being sexual objects. 

4) educate yourself on the benefits of breastfeeding lady 

5) not all babys are breastfeeding when they are on the boob, sometimes they are just being soothed by mommy. My baby's liked to suckle to sooth themselves even when they weren't eating. 

6) You are portable, you remove yourself. 

GEEZ LADY, YOU PISSED ME OFF. 

  

 
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October 7, 2005, 8:21 am PDT

YOU GO MAN!!

Quote From: ymcacoach

Dr. Phil I think if we start telling moms they can't breestfeed in public what will be next,telling overweight people they can't eat in public or bald people they have to wear a hat in public.I guess my point is there are all kinds of things that are offensive to all kinds of people.Anyone who finds breestfeeding offensive or sexy are sick  IT IS WHAT IT IS IT'S JUST BREESTFEEDING.....I am a man and I have seen women breestfeeding in public and I did take a second look not because it was sexy but because it is a woman doing what GOD gave them the talent and right to do

IT'S ABOUT TIME A MAN SPEAK UP ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. SEE NOT ALL MEN FIND IT SEXUAL AND THOSE WHO DO, NEED A HEAD CHECK. 

MIA 

 

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October 7, 2005, 8:22 am PDT

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Quote From: mommy_two

This whole topic has me really upset, everyday I try to help women breastfeed and everywhere I go I promote that breast is best. My breastfeeding mom's say they have been given dirty looks and told to go to the bathroom to feed their babies, when in public.   I hate that it is being debated on weather we should nurse our babies in public.  Here is an update for all you mom's who formula fed by choice, our breasts produce milk as soon as your placenta is delivered because that is what breasts are for.  I don't understand why we as women, carry our babies in our wombs for 9 months and then as soon as the baby is here you think your job is done.  It is our job to make sure our babies are as healthy as they can be. Breastfeeding is the only true way to feed a human baby.     For all those mothers who chose to formula feed because they couldn't fulfill their duties, I feel sorry that you didn't get to have the experience that all of us nursing mothers had.  As for nursing your baby,toddler, older child, I think that if your child was hungry you would feed them, no matter where you are.  I think it is sad that so many women think that formula is equal to breast milk.   To all my breastfeeding peer's keep encouraging, fighting and loving your babies.  Oh and by the way your breast milk changes to meet the needs of your growing child, so breast milk is beneficial at any age.  I wish that all mom's would breastfeed, then when we are faced with natural disasters, like the hurricanes, we will not have to worry about our babies starvin, just a thought!

Whoa! 

 I am appalled by your comment on mother's who formula fed by choice!  

I bottle fed my daughter by choice and was still able to fulfill my duties as a mom!!!!!!!!!!! Not to mention she was able to bond with her daddy! 

Don't feel sorry for me or my child ~ she is now a healthy senior in high school and will be the valedictorian of her 2006 graduation class!  

 
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