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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

Bottom line with Breastfeeding

 I breastfed all 3 of my sons (the first for 15 months, the second for 3 years and the third is still bresastfeeding at 3 years old).
The bottom line to breastfeeding in public is that even if moms do cover up (which my boys never let me do--they would rip it right off from  the time they were 4 months on...who wants to eat their food under a hot blanket???) is that the people who have "issues" with it, have inherent issues with the human body. They would still be offended even if the moms were "covered up" because it is the act itself that disgusts them...not what they SEE!
The  woman who against breastfeeding kept talking about how it's not "attractive". Well, I personally found her hair color/style to be VERY unattractive also so I guess according to her, she should go intyo hiding as so not to offend me.
Our culture needs to grow up and stop thinking that we have all the answers for every moral issue. Obviously, with the state our kids are in these days, we could be doing a lot better!!!
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

Birds and the Bees

It is true, the perfect means of protection is abstinence, but unfortunately sex is performed despite the consequences, such as HIV, AIDS, and pregnancy. Considering sex is costless and a solution to intimate desires, sex will proceed to remain as an interest and an activity in adolescents. Inaptly, the number of teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases are increasing, regardless of previous tactics. The supplying of condoms in school is a means of safety, equitable to sex education.

Sex education is to inform the adolescents of the process of a new human being coming into existence and in addition often includes topics such as STD and how to avoid them, as well as methods of contraception. The purpose of sex education is to give information and likewise educate how to be safe if they inaptly decide to have adolescent sex. Similarly the aim of rendering condoms is to encourage safe sex if any sex. 

 

 
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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

BREAST FEEDING IN PUBLIC

Quote From: erickj51

The problem is... mothers don't always know "when" their baby is going to be hungry again. A nurse baby is to be fed on demand... meaning when the baby wants to eat. So it's a bit difficult for the mother ever to get anything done if she constantly needs to worry about whether baby will be hungry when she needs to go grocery shopping to feed the rest of the family. The majority of women I know who breastfeed do-so very discreetly. And if the woman is discreet, then I don't really understand the big issue.
I WATCHED YOUR SHOW TODAY AND I THINK BREAST FEEDING IS TOTALLY A NORMAL THING. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE LOOKING AT WOMEN WHILE THEY'RE DOING IT BUT IT IS TOTALLY NATURAL. THE WOMAN ON YOUR PROGRAM SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT AND COVERING HERSELF WITH A BLANKET I THINK WOULD BE A BETTER APPROACH. THERE ARE JUST SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO LOOK AT WOMEN BREASTFEEDING AND A LITTLE COMPROMISE COULD SETTLE THAT ISSUE AND MAKE OTHERS AROUND NOT FEEL SO UNCOMFORTABLE. THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT SHOWS DR. PHIL--THERE IS ALWAYS INTERSETING AND INFORMING TO SEE.                              AMY
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

BREASTFEEDING OLDER KIDS.....

On another subject of breastfeeding. I think that women who breastfeed their child over the age of 2 have definite issues. I once saw a woman breastfeeding her child who was about 5. That is a major problem. I don't think it has anything to do with the child, but the parent who refused to let that child become independent.
 

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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

Quote From: jlynnbraut

I really can not believe that people these days just do not respect other people.  I breast feed my children and totally think that is wonderful if you are able to do so.  I do however find it VERY TACKY when people just expose everything like they are proud of there boobs now that they are larger or they just want to see how far they can go in society.  You can use even a little blanket to just cover that little area up.  It is not that hard and that would be respecting the people around you.  I just like it is not that big of a deal to just respect the people around you.  Lets stop being to tacky people!!! 

  

Jodi 

I am a breastfeeding mother and i totally agree with you!!!  Although I  don't plan on feeding my baby in public, it does happen from time to time...hey, if she's hungry I am her bottle!!!  But I do think that a little blanket goes a long way when trying to feed your children in a public setting!!
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

agree

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I have 2 boys of my own and I breast feed each of them for a while because I had heard of a substance only present in mothers milk that helps the baby in all kinds of ways. However, breastfeeding may be natural and what god intended, but you can't ignore the fact that a breast is also a very sexual thing. And as such, wheres the harm in modesty. Some parts of the body were not meant to be publicly exposed, and breasts are included. This woman has an attitude problem and dosen't seem to care about other peoples feelings, even to the point of simply using a light blanket in public. I'll bet she has one in her diaper bag for other purposes, whats the harm in pulling it out for this purpose? Does she also change diapers in public? I think she is an exhibionist and just enjoys flaunting her breast in public to people whom she can see are uncomfortable. Since she brought up the subject of cultures, in our society, even as children, we are taught to respect other peoples feelings. Passing gas is also a normal thing, but we try not to do it around other people.
I totally agree with you on that subject.
 

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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

I agree with jaylaan

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For all peolpe who have a proble with breast feeding, You just need to look away. WHAT ARE YOU WATCING THEM ANYWAY.  We do not watch you eat!!!!!!  I have breast fed both of my children and YES I did it in public !!! No I did not just laeve my breast hanging out. I did it with a blanket or a cover up.  You must only see breasts as a sex thing not a nature thing  (like God gave them!!). Read the reports. Breast feeding is the best thing for young children.  NO I would not feed my child on the toilet.  I will not eat in the same place people take a dump or urinate.  I will under NO circamstances MAKE my child eat there.
I totally agree on this with you jaylaan. As I said in another post I breast fed my daughter and I did it wherever it was. There is no way I would have fed my daughter in a restroom those are disgusting and I don't think anyone cleans them half the time. I also would not go off into a room by myself to breast feed and my daughter always seemed to be hungry when we ate so I would feed her and eat myself at the same time. I have breast fed my daughter in restraunts also. As for the bottle expressing breast milk into a bottle is very hard it hurts more doing that then feeding the child directly. Another thing that some people don't understand with breast fed babies, not all of them take to the bottle. My daughter would only drink from me she knew the difference and I tried to express it in a bottle and let her dad feed her but she would just turn her head or scream. We tried all different kind of bottle nipples even the playtex that was suppose to be the closest thing to being like a breast and she would not go for it. Just like if I walked out the door and she was playing or qiuet and I would go to do grocery shopping when I'd get back she'd be screaming and there would be nothing her father could do. She would cry(not scream really but it was a loud cry) from the minute I walked out the door until I came home. When she would see me she would stop crying and my husband used to say you can't leave anymore. I'd say why and he said because she cries the  whole time because she sees her food walking out the door. Believe me when I say it but I think he was right and I told him back then that it could very well be since babies are very perceptive to things around them.
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

Good Grief!

 Dr. Phil, my beef is you missed a prime opportunity, or maybe you did it later after taping, to get into the real matter with the anti-breast woman.  It wasnt breastfeeding she had a problem with.  That was the least of it.  She obviously was hostile towards any form of self expression.  I didn't get all the program, I was busy and going in and out trying to catch it...but I am going to guess she doesnt have any children and has issues with the human body no matter what it is doing! FEED A BABY IN THE BATHROOM!!! You should have called her on that.  I realize she seemed just ready to unhinge but crap, its YOUR show.  You should have told her to get over it.  And that you DO NOT EAT IN THE JOHN!!!

I breastfed my children and I have six.  Most of them were fairly easy to convince when and where.  But Hannah, my now 17 year old...anywhere, everywhere and all the time!  There isnt a store, eating establishment (both fast food and fancy) within 100 miles of here that hasnt been breastfed in!  BY HER!  And let me just go ahead and flip you off your chair backwards...she didnt wean until she was almost 4!!!  Sometimes we were discrete and sometimes I did all I could to keep her from wanting to nurse one and "hold other one Mommy."  Not when she was 4 of course---but as a toddler. 

I have a brother in law that had issues with it...but I couldnt care less.  I didnt do it at his house in front of him but he had issues with me doing it at all!  Honestly though, he just pretty much as issues period.

Yes breasts are sexual.  They are supposed to be.  But they are also for nourishing  babies.  Men, women, whom ever is offended by it is not JUST offended by breastfeeding but have some issue with breast/nakedness and differentiating between the sexual aspect and the nurturing aspect...I suspect it is a deep seeded problem.  But hey you are the doctor.

But for goodness sakes...LOOK AWAY and quit whining.  Turn your chair.  Be a big girl.  That breastfeeding mom paid for her dinner too! 
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

bathroom? Who are you?

Quote From: ganhe1209

I believe the problem with breast feeding in public is this: I wouldn't let my six year old son watch exposed breasts in movies, therefore I shouldn't have to let him watch it while we're having dinner. I see nothing disgusting about a mother feeding her child, but it should be done in private whether it be a bathroom etc. Thanks          Heather
When you start feeding your child in the bathroom please let me know.  I breastfeed my baby and I feed in public.  It's not a strip show we're doing it's totally natural.  Only in the past 50 or 60 years did formula feeding become a popular option for mothers.  Breastfeeding used to be the only way and it is what nature intended us to do with our breast..  (I'm not putting down mothers that feed their children formula either.  My sisters both formula fed theirs.)  But maybe if you sat down and educated your son that this is how a baby is naturally fed maybe it wouldn't be an issue.  My nieces and nephews were all taught about breastfeeding and they don't give it a second thought that I sit there and feed my son. 
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

the guest INSISTED on EXHIBITIONISM!

Quote From: catmcq

Recently I was in a supermarket and a mother was pushing her child in a shopping cart. He was sitting up and latched onto her breast as she was shopping up and down the aisles. The child was at least 2 years old.  I can understand breastfeeding an infant, but a toddler in a supermarket is another story. A child that age should have an established eating routine at home. I don't know what this mother was trying to prove, but she showed me a mother who will probably have no control over her child's eating habits. If toddlers are going to be breastfed, it should be done in the privacy of one's home .

I'm laughing because the issue is not whether or not to breast feed -- it is whether we should do it rudely and disrespectfully or whether we should do it with kindness and respect of a multi-cultural America. One guest on the show said she had the right to be as rude and disrespectful as she wanted to be, and the other guest said that she thought people should be kind and respectful when in public. Easy to see the morally right answer - all relgions require us to be kind, and so does humanism. 

  

If you do a survey of what women find sexually attractive in men, many, if not most women, will say they consider a man's bare chest erotic, but there's no campaign to prevent men from going topless. Why should I have to cover up my chest in public then? It's called gender bias.  

  

Children who are breast feed after age 1 year are meeting their mother's emotional and psychological needs, not the mother meeting the child's needs, as any immunologist and scientifically based nutritionist will tell you.  

  

  

 
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