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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

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I think that it is the woman's right to breast feed in public, but knowing that other people are going to be uncomfortable with this i think that it is respectful to cover it up while out in public.   

  

With the condoms in school, i am young and not as old fashion as some people may be and i will tell you with only being a few years out of high school teaching abstinence and only that  does not work.  For all the parents that believe that this is the only method you are wrong.  Your kids already know weather or not they are going to have sex before they are married before anyone even talks to them about it.  I think that sex education in schools is a great thing but preaching to kids that they shouldn't have sex and its a bad thing, doesn't work, and you only get tuned out.  Teaching them that abstinence is the best thing for them because it is 100% no babies and no STD'S but since children are having sex sooner then ever before the best thing for them is to teach them that if that is the path that they choose then they need to be armed with the knowledge of protection like condoms and how and where they can get them from the school nurse the counselor, or from a free clinic after an STD test. There  are ways to protect our children from un wanted pregnancy and STD'S but telling them that they cannot have sex at all what so ever will do nothing but push them away to where they will not feel comfortable to come to you when they are ready to.   

  

Don't be naive about this kids are going to have sex no matter what you do they have already ,made this choice, but you can do the best thing and arm them with knowledge 

 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

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Quote From: missjane2

I breastfed one of my 4 kids for 12 months.  The others I didn't.  I really don't remember breastfeeding in public.  Although it doesn't bother me to see a mom breastfeed her baby WITHOUT TEETH in public.  What would be an interesting subject is talking to mom's who breastfeed their older children.....??????  Kindergarden?  And that's not funny, but they have that Le Leche Club thing and some woman either culturally or for whatever reason go beyond what is necessarily.  At least in my opinion.  Anyone else ever hear of this?

It's unfortunate, but you obviously don't know what the latest research in the medical community is. As it stands now the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) recommends nursing a child for a MINIMUM of a year. The WHO (World Health Organization) recommends a MINIMUM of two years. So nursing a baby for more than a few months is far from "unnecessary" as you seem to think. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

Breastfeeding In Public Can Be Easy/Discreet

I have three children ages 5, 3 and 1.  I breastfed my children for a combined 3 years.  I would say that I was in public as much as any other average mother.  My children were on schedules so I knew exactly when they needed to eat, and if I could help it I would schedule outings around feedings.  Some stores, restaurants, etc... have very nice "lounge" type rooms adjacent to the restrooms.  This is always a great find for a nursing mother.  Changing rooms in clothing/department stores are comfy and you can fit your stroller in there too.  However if it could not be avoided I would drape a receiving blanket over my shoulder.  No one ever saw even a square inch of my bare breast.  I did not "hide" from anyone, nor was I ashamed.  But I respect other people, and I don't know how they feel, so it is always better to be respecful.  Mothers who expose their breasts, leaving it exposed while they position their baby, this is unnecessary.  Just because you have the right, or are not shy about it, or think it is natural...that's all great, but everyone may not feel the same way and it is not hard or take extra effort to be discreet. Even if you don't have to!  It's not always about you. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

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I don't think that that breastfeeding should be done in public places. It is illegal to show your breast in public, right? I think some females use breastfeeding as an excuse to expose their breasts in public. If they're  so worried about their babies getting the right nutrition, then they already know 'when' it's going to be hungry again. Why would they choose to run to walmart or another public place just when it's time to feed the baby? The baby don't just 'all of a sudden' get hungry when you get to the store.  Does the smell of the store make them hungry?  New borns eat every three to four hours. That's how it's always been. Or even if it's every two hours. The mother knows about when it's going to be time to feed the baby, Like I said.. why run to walmart or any other store, just when it's time for the baby to eat again?  I don't think that it's right for other little kids to have to see some womans breast hanging out,  or for other womens husbands to see them either.  Jealousy can cause rage in some people, ya know?  Someone could end up getting hurt, exposing their breast in public.              Sincerely, Dolly
 Actually my son eats anywhere from every 3 hours to every hour.  We feed on demand, as do most breastfeeding mothers.  Now my grocery store is only 5 minutes away but my local wal-mart and target and other stores I would go to take aprox 20 minutes to get to.  So lets see if I get ready to go, feed my son get him in his carrier get him in the car and get to where I'm going that has taken atleast 30 minutes if not 45, if i'm lucky he will sleep in the car so I can shop for a bit before he is hungry, yet again.   So if going by what you say I can get to the store, then have to turn around and go home as he could be hungry again soon.  And yes my son sometimes "all of a sudden" get hungry when we get to a store.  The smells from the food stimulate him just the same as they would you.  You smell something yummy and you get that waterymouth oh that would be great to eat right now feeling and so will he, the difference is he is tiny, impatent, and starving NOW, where as you are older and can control those urges.  You wouldnt expect a newborn to understand that they cant eat right now because joe blow might be uncomfortable about it.
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

breastfeeding

I am currently breastfeeding my 3 month old, and also chose to breastfeed my first born, who is now 5 and battling Leukemia. I hold great importance in breastfeeding  my children but everyone holds their own opinion. I personally think its a beautiful sight seeing a mother nurse her child, this is something that does not nor has it ever offended me. the woman on the show who is so disturbed by breastfeeding in public? Try living in Ontario, where it is a womans legal right to go out in public WITHOUT a shirt on and not get charged for public indecency. that kind of puts things in a different light. a baby nursing discreetly, or a woman letting them hang out ... hmmm Nursing in public does not have to become a statement, but it should be acknowledged that just like the millions of children scarfing down hamburgers at mcdonalds, with food stuck to their faces and whatnot, ( which bothers me..) a hungry infant has the right to eat with her family without being ostrasized for it. in public or elsewhere. i do not expect women to send their kids to eat in the bathroom, we should not be expected to feed our newborns in one either.                            

 
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Quote From: vrappa

What ever happened to respecting others?  The Me Me Me mentality in this country has ruined putting others first.  Breast feeding is a wonderful and beautiful part of Motherhood.  It can be done discreetly so that others can also experience a modest and special function. 

  

The woman who wants to change things by not respecting others is going to leave her child a very self centered and arrogant legacy 

Here's the point everyone is missing! This is not Me Me Me. This is My Child My Child My Child. And the mother and the CHILD have that right to have that child put first.
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in public

I breastfed my child until he was 10 months old.  I fed him everywhere.  Restaurants, movies, bookstores, clothing stores, anywhere we were, anytime.  If he was hungry or fussy, I fed him.  I was always very discreet about it though.  He somehow just understood that when we were not at home, mommy would be putting a blanket (one time it was a linen napkin in a restaurant!) over him while he ate.  I was not embarrassed in any way to be feeding him in public, but I felt that it might embarrass other people who were not expecting to go out to dinner and see my breast so I covered up.  I would have been unendingly offended if someone ever told me to go somewhere else, especially to the bathroom.  No one else has to eat their lunch or dinner in the bathroom, why should my child.  Fortunately, I never had a problem.  I am due to have my second son in January and plan to breastfeed him as well.  I have seen the benefits of breastmilk first hand.  My 4 year old son gets maybe one or two little colds a year.  He has never had an earache, not one.  The only time he goes to the doctor are for checkups.  He is one of the healthiest kids I have ever seen and I believe that it is because we put in the time and effort to make breastfeeding a success.  No one ever said it would be easy, and at times it wasn't, but I had a lot of support from my family and my husbands family.  I love the fact that I did everything I could to give my child the absolute best possible start in life.
 
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October 7, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

tired of insecure and distorted perceptions

Britsies comment that the breast is a sexual part of the body and that there is no controversy over that is a presumptuous and distorted perception.  I am in controversy over whether the breast is a sexual part of the body.  I believe that man has certainly treated it this way and have distorted our views of a natural body part meant for feeding.  If men had treated elbows the same way as they have treated the breast this controversy may not exist.  Our society has raised generations of people so insecure about their looks and the looks of others that a necessity of nature is now being demonized  by those who are viewing the world through a black and white lens instead of inviting all the colors of life available to them.  To say the breast is sexual may be one aspect, but it is only one and it is not defined by what others think of it but by what the posessor of the breast thinks of it.  I don't find the tits(teets) on an animal "inappropriate" or threatening in anyway, this is natural and similar to the breasts on a woman.  Nature has spent eons fine tuning her ways and your twisted perceptions are as transparent as your obvious insecurities with sex.  

 
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October 7, 2005, 1:00 pm PDT

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Quote From: lovnlife2

Excuse me?  Do you think I am being a better parent by starving my child until I can get home.  A baby doesn't know about scheduling and convenience, all it knows is that it is HUNGRY and needs food.   I do care about modesty and I am also a person who would not even wear a low-cut top if it shows too much skin.  Breastfeeding is about my baby, not you.   I always try for modesty and despite what others may think I don't want them looking at my breast anymore than they want to see it.  I am doing the best I can to nourish my child when she needs to eat, despite the fact that she didn't consult me before getting hungry!

Satisfying my baby's hunger will ALWAYS come before your feelings. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 1:00 pm PDT

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I find it ironic that I'm still in the middle of this debate after 30 years!  The fact that the nurturing side of our culture has not kept up with the "expose all things sexual" side is frustrating.  When I first had my children, I felt that I would breastfeed "as long as possible" (because I heard that you just can't nurse as long as you want to for one reason or another) and never thought about being exposed in public.   

  

However, once I had my children, the length of time breastfeeding exceeded my expectations, and I also surprised myself in my overwhelming modesty taking a back seat to the reality of the situation. As I became more relaxed with the process of breastfeeding, I became more comfortable with (discreetly) nursing in public. I had never thought that breasts were soley sexual. (And how can that be, anyway? Does every part of the body that can have errogenous feelings have to be defined as sexual?) However, experiencing the actual function of the woman's breast puts everything into focus.  

  

Of course, a woman SHOULD be discreet while nursing, and women SHOULD be discreet in their every day attire, but there is always an exception to this.  However, it is a sad commentary on our culture when a woman who is breastfeeding is labeled "repulsive" or "unattractive." Personally, I cringe when I see a baby sucking on a rubber nipple out of a plastic bottle. For whatever reason, this child is being deprived of the special nurturing that breastfeeding provides, and is his/her right. The bottle fed baby should be the exception, NOT the norm. 

 
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