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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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ohplease

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October 7, 2005, 3:02 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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I think the woman on the show that said she will breast feed anytime anywhere is an idiot. She said she needs to bond with her child. My and my boyfriend need to bond as well but we don't have sex in public!!! Everyone has the right to feed their child but at least have enough class to cover up your breasts. Like the other woman on the show said, "not everyone thinks it is as wonderful as you". Bond on your own time in your own home or cover up! I think women who want to subject people to their ignorance in public are just looking for attention.

Oh yes, the old "I don't have sex in public, she can't BREASTfeed in public" argument.

Forgive me, but what does your carnal pleasure have to do with my child's nutritional requirements?

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

Planned Parenthood Secret Agenda

Dr Phil,

I am so surprised that you would refer to "planned parenthood" for a nationwide study. Their studies are biased based on the fact that they make their money from abortions and STD's. I don't think you did your research to use Planned Parenthood as a reliable source to quote what is happening in America. PP wants to do anything to PROMOTE SEX with our kids today b/c that is how they make their money. From std's to abortion,,,they ask leading questions in their surveys to SUPPORT their causes. Planned Parenthood does NOT have anyone's child's best interest at heart, so next time you want to quote stats, please don't use a source that's number one souce of revenue is aborting teenagers babies. Thats sick and disgusting. Shame on you Dr. Phil for acting like they are some kind of "worthy group" with straight facts. They twist the facts for their own agenda. PERIOD.

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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HELLO????????

Women complain and complain that they do not like being treated as sexual objects, and here is a woman complaining about one of the most natural acts that a WOMAN can perform because she finds it offensive. WHY IS IT OFFENSIVE? The only reason that woman are required to cover their breasts in public is because of the sexual attachment to them. If this WOMAN is so offended by another woman's breast then she is treating that woman as a sexual object.

NO ONE has the right (in my opinion) to tell a woman that if she wants to feed her child, that she has to cover this up or be embarrased by it. GROW UP. Not everyone finds everyone else to be "ATTRACTIVE" or "APPEALING", but, I wouldn't have the right or assume to have the right to ask a woman to not eat in the same restaurant as myself just because I think she is not attractive or appealing.

Frankly I am disgusted by this and even more so by the fact that a woman is protesting. I have asked everyone I know and I cannot find a single friend or family member who is offended by a breast feeding woman. I realize that I surround myself by quality people who are not pretentious or self righteous and that may be why, but, I have asked enough people now I think to say with confidence that this is not the general consensus at my end.

If a woman has the strength of character and self worth to feel confident with breast feeding in public then I say Kudos and I hope that her child is raised with the same values and strengths.

So if a boob should NEVER been seen as sexual than neither should a man's penis, it is a instrument used to PEE so why can't he just run around with no pants on? Keep it COVERED !! Its a pretty simple request and should be done out of curtesy, those that refuse only appear to so they can 'show off'.

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

Your choice

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I just finished watching the debate over breastfeeding, all I have to say is the girl who was against breastfeeding in public sounded like an idiot to me. She didn't have any reason not to like it except for that it "wasn't attractive" - it's not supposed to be attractive, it's supposed to feed your child!!! When you are a breastfeeding mother, you have no choice as to when your child gets hungry and you have to feed them. I don't believe it's fair for a breastfeeding mother to be relegated to the restroom when the rest of the family is enjoying their meal. And as far as covering up goes, I can't imagine that if I still breastfed my 1 year old and tried to throw a blanket over his face how long that would last! I say all the power to you to any mother who wants to breastfeed in public - and everyone who is offended by it - look away and mind your own business!!!

Your the one who chose to have kids, and all the things that come alone with that. Is socializing more important than feeding your child. There is nothing unhigenic about nursing in the bathroom, it's just boring for mom. One year old children should be able waight till you get home to nurse. That's not their only form of nutrition.

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

nope

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so where do you go to eat while watching naked people? Nude beaches? I can't think of anywhere else you'd find them.

Nursing mothers are not naked. Women in low cut shirts and skirts that barely cover their butts are closer to it. now THAT is disgusting.

Are they sticking their butts in my face or their childs mouth??? NOPE!

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duzdilla

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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I never saw one person breastfeeding in public in the UK while I was there, and I rarely saw people bring small children to nice restaurants. They still have some manners there.

AMEN!

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

Breast feeding in public

I breast-fed all three of my children......not in public, but I was PREPARED! I made two shawls and had plenty of blankets.

I do believe that women have the right to breast-feed in public. They should have some consideration for others, though. Light coverings do help - even though older babies throw them off!

Babies don't always abide by their feeding schedules - honest!

Sending them into a closet or bathroom in order to feed a child.....is kinda like shuffling them to the attic like the crazy relatives of long ago.

Looking at a woman breast-feeding is no less distracting than looking at a woman with her dress cut to her navel........and a lot of women think that's attractive. They come into public places quite often, too.

So.......I'm PRO breast-feeding in public as long as it's discreet.

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

Disruptive Children in Public

I had to laugh at the woman who gave the same excuse for every insident of bad behavior her children exhibited, "There's 3 of them and only 1 of me. I only have 2 hands." As a mother of 5, I have to say that her children have her number. I took 1 of my children from a store crying in all my years of child rearing because I forgot to tell my son what my expectations were before we went in. That was my fault, not his. This woman's children are clearly old enough to understand simple rules. If she lays out her expectations before they go into a store or to church she would have greater success. The other key is to follow through on what ever consequences she has told her children would result if they misbehave. My question for her is where the heck is your husband?? You make is sound like you're a single mom. If that's the case, why would you want another baby? You sound so overwhelmed by the 3 you have. You need to get your act together or you will never have any peace. Any yes, I have no problem talking to children about their bad behavior if the parents are not watching them. If the parents are present I will say something to them about the children's unacceptable behavior or if there is a single mom near by having problems with her kids I will offer to help her out. I have never been turned down. If you offer as a sign of help and don't come off like you're trying to get rid of her and her kids, it's usually well received.

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October 7, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

Most of us do.

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Did it ever occur to you to use a bottle when in public if you can't conceal your breastfeeding. You are not FORCED to breastfeed in public. I agree with the woman on the show that not everyone wants to see you breastfeeding - look away? if you would cover up, no one would have to look away. You women who insist on baring it all in public to breastfeed are doing nothing more than making a point that you can and will do what you want when you want. Why don't you have some consideration for other people?

Yes, it occured to me. However, my daughter would have nothing to do with a bottle -- even with breastmilk in it!

Most moms are very discreet. What is the huge deal?

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October 7, 2005, 3:04 pm PDT

it's just sex, after all

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     As a 20 year old college junior, I wanted to share my opinion on condoms in schools. I think that, coupled with a comprehensive sex education program, schools should supply condoms for the student body. This will not encourage students who are not sexually active to become so, it will only encourage those who are to be safe and educated.
   Some insist that providing condoms to students is giving tacit permission for teen sex. This is not true. Teenagers are fully capable of recognizing the incredible responsibilty of pregnancy, and will use every available method to protect themselves. By making condoms available, the school systems willbe encouraging discussions and thoughts about being sexually active. This in itself will help prevent rash actions and unwanted pregnancy.
    Also, providing condoms to students will not force them to consider having sex. Kids in America are surrounded by sex everyday, from movies, magazines, and conversations on the playground ("You mean that goes there?"). By the time sexual education is discussed in schools, most kids have already formed a moral and ethical conscience that will help them make descisions about sex.
    I do not think it is the school's job to share opinions on the morality of pre-marital sex. In all subjects, it is a school's job to provide facts and a safe, open-minded environment in which a child's mind can expand. Supplying condoms for teens who choose to have sex, is, in my mind, akin to supplying football helmets to those who choose to go out for the team.

Someone talked about condoms giving tacit permission to have sex. This person also made a connection with smoking and drug use. I don't have kids. But i remember being one. My parents taught me to respect sex as a thing for marriage or at least later in life. I did not have sex at school age. I have a problem with comparing sex with drugs or smoking for this reason: You DO NOT hope that one day your daughter will grow up, marry and have satisfying drug abuse. You do hope she will marry and have satisfying sex - unless you are really repressed. IT'S JUST SEX, people, not heroin. In 5 years she'l be reading about how to do it better!
Think about it. Suppose your daughter is responsible with condoms, has a little sex with her boyfriend, STAYS SAFE and then a few years later gets married, has her career, children, whatever. Are you going to look back and focus on - those few times she experimented as a youth? I hope not. But if she gets hooked on drugs - different story. AND, if she GETS AIDS - DIFFERENT STORY! I say, LET'S PROTECT OUR KIDS who WILL make up their own minds about sex anyway. Let them have condoms and teach them early. Sex is NATURAL AND SOMETHING THEY WILL SOON DO OFTEN AND LEGALLY. One day they may be on Dr. Phil talking about how they can't enjoy sex, but they will not be on there talking about how they can't enjoy smoking. We've got people hear defending public breast exposure for FEEDING, because it isnatural (ok, i buy that) but they refuse to picture their children being natural sexual beings. I believe in remaining virginal until marriage - but not all children will do that. I say to those who want to keep kids "ignorant" - DO YOU WANT MORE CHILDREN BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK AND MORE STDS? Kids will "outgrow" a little mutual and gentle experimentation with sex, in my opinion - but they don't outgrow pregnancy or disease so easily. Abstinence is BEST and my choice - and i agree there can be emotional problems with youth sex, of course. But kids also grow up and block adolescent stuff out, IF we don't make them feel to DIRTY. If kids WILL have sex, at least let's PROTECT THEM from long-term effects. Thank you.

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