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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 8, 2005, 12:04 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

Quote From: problemcat

Shellee, you try eating in the bathroom, in a bathroom stall, with the stall door locked, and figure out how you're going to get your hands clean from handling the stall door lock so you can unwrap your food. You wouldn't. How much more important, then, would it be to feed an infant in cleaner conditions than that?? Use some common sense, rather than telling a woman to take an infant (with a developing immune system) into a germy public bathroom.
Please tell me where I said women must feed their children in the bathroom? With the door closed and locked even........then I will respond.
 
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October 8, 2005, 12:05 am PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

Quote From: shellyee

Maybe you should just ask me? No, it is not ok to blow smoke in face. And, as young as I am, i don't think woman need to have their breasts hanging out of their dresses and shirts, or their rears coming out of their pants. Why? Because a woman should be more than just her body parts. But, just as you feel breastfeeding is Godly and beautiful, I am entitled to an opinion too, without being told I am crazy or I have issues for not agreeing with you. You are entitled to think your way and live as you choose. I am allowed to do the same, only I have not judged you or called you any names. All I said was people should show more respect for other peoples rights and opinions. You might try it.

So show more respect for my rights and opinions.  That's exactly what I expressed.  You definitely sat in judgment of all mothers who breastfeed in public.  Even though it's just your opinion, you chose to express it to an audience of millions of people.  When you do that, you expose yourself to feedback you might not like.   And to quote you, "people should show more respect for other peoples rights and opinions".   I rest my case. 

 

 
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October 8, 2005, 12:07 am PDT

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Quote From: kalynnsmom

Most women who breastfeed in public DO have their clothes on. Only a sliver of skin is showing.

And it IS unsanitary to feed a baby in the restroom. This is a place where people go to urinate and/ or defecate. There are bacteria, fecal matter, and all sorts of other germs, especially when the toilet is flushed. .  If you think it's so sanitary, why don't you eat in the restroom? Last time I checked, most people don't eat in the restroom.


A. I will continue to repeat this for awhile, but it is getting old- I never said you had to breastfeed in the bathroom.  

  

B. This was my point on the show- what are doing with your breast that you are so worried about the toilet seat or the walls or what not? There is nothing saying anything in this world is oh so sanitary. You have no garantees. But if you are being as subtle and careful as you say, then how is your breast suddenly going to become unsanitary just by being in the bathroom? 

 
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October 8, 2005, 12:07 am PDT

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How ridiculous!  Is it all right for me to say that if I don't like the way you are eating,  you should go in the bathroom and do it? NO of course not, that would be unacceptable.  I know this sounds horrible but if I were to encounter someone like Shelly in a resteraunt I would be very tempted to go sit as close as I possibly could, without acutally harrassing her, flop out my big breast & feed my chubby little piglet of a son (he snorts when he eats & I happen to think it's adorable, sorry if it affends you).  Frankly I don't care what someone thinks about me while I am breastfeeding, all I need to focus on is my precious baby & what I feel is best for him.  What is this world coming to when people really have nothing better to worry about than how & where I choose to feed my child. All I have to say to them is "Get A Life"
 
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October 8, 2005, 12:12 am PDT

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Quote From: abstract

Have you ever seen someone breastfeed? Do you think they strip down to their birthday suits and run around first masturbating to get everyones attention first?
If you have nothing intelligent to add, maybe you shouldn't say anything at all.
 
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October 8, 2005, 12:13 am PDT

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Comment on Breastfeeding.  

 I gave birth to my first daughter in Canada .  I never thought twice about breastfeeding, everyone does it, we see it all the time.  In fact in my home town breastfeeding mommies are so common place our malls have sofas and family rooms right in the middle of the malls, so mommies and families have a place to rest and feed their children.  Of course these areas are for everyone to enjoy.  However, many mommies take advantage of these areas. 

  Once I left my home town I realized not everywhere is so open minded.  I was pregnant and still breastfeeding, in my new town.  People stared and whispered.  

However, I did not falter.  My baby was happy and so was I.  I continued on to nurse my two other babies, in public places or where ever it was needed. If I was out and found my self in others company, I would always ask if anyone minded and if they said yes (which has happened).  I kindly told them to leave for a moment because my baby needed to eat now.   When asked "why I couldn't nurse in the washroom", I would "ask do you eat dinner on the toilet." That usually shut people up. Or if someone would argue, that I could go to another room.  I would kindly remind them that, out of a room of 4 or more people, "only you are uncomfortable and wouldn't it be more convenient, for you to leave than for me to pick up baby and hide, for your comfort"?  Hmmm.... I think not. I also liked to point out that my milk was much more natural then the coke they were drinking or the chemically processed meat they were eating.   

I am not a hippy or a naturalist by any stretch of the imagination, however, I believe breast is best, and no one will rob me of the right to feed my child (at what ever age) when and where I see fit.  I will nurse my child in a restaurant, in the movies, and while I shop at Wal-Mart!  If you don’t like it, come and talk to me!  I am highly educated (masters degree) so I am willing to debate with you( in a calm and civil way) and hopefully educate you about the womanly art and its benefits and down falls. I will accept your differences (I won’t embrace them).  However, in turn you must accept mine.  If you are uncomfortable with seeing a baby cuddled up close to mommy, for food and comfort, I think you need ask yourself, "why am I so bothered by this art?"  You were born the same way, and were probably feed the same way.   You see more nudity on TV, which is much more suggestive.  Do all public displays of affection bother you?  Should public kissing be against the law?  Hmmm... Some things to think about. 

 Breastfeeding Mommies hold firm to your God given gift. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 12:14 am PDT

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Quote From: utahnicole

if you honestly beleive that take your lunch and eat it in the bathroom. It is just as sanitary in the bathroom as it is in the lunchroom.
My you should have worked my old job with me- no lunchroom. We couldn't eat in the store and the managers couldn't leave. Guess where we had to go to eat? Am I dead or poisoned? WHY? Because the bathroom was clean, and I never put my food on the floor or in the toilet. It just took common sense. I had no idea do few people actually have it.
 
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October 8, 2005, 12:20 am PDT

RE: Question for breastfeeders

Quote From: kitter

I do think breast feeding is great and to see a mom Breastfeeding in public in the cases where they choose to do so with out cover does not discust me. But I am interested in looking maybe because my baby and I didn't have an easy time of it and because of that it was not possible to do so in public and so I am curious.  But for what ever reason I am interested in what you are doing and find myself looking continually but then I feel ashamed for looking because it feels like I am looking at something I am not supposed to see.  Do you feel comfortable when people look at you wile you feed with your breast in view?  Or do you feel people who look are perves and should look away? 
I don't think you should feel ashamed for looking and I believe if you went up to the mom and talked to her, she would be willing to talk to you, answer questions and let you look.  I am not embarrassed to breastfeed in public because I hope I encourage others to breastfeed by setting an example.  I generally don't feel like someone looking is a pervert unless it is a learing man who looks like a weirdo.  If you need more help, please contact a local La Leche League group in your area or look in the yellow pages for a doula.
 
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October 8, 2005, 12:21 am PDT

Band breastfeeding????

I can't believe that people are offended by a mother breastfeeding her baby!!!!  To me the issue should be the magazines we pass by in the checkout line at the store, of the comercials on tv, not a mom providing a baby with proper nutrition. The thing is, there are many things we don't like in life, and we don't have to. If you don't like it, don't do it! It is hard enough to get information and support out to woman on the importance of breastfeeding without people acting like they are commiting a crime. I know it might be a hard thing to comprehend for those opposed to breatfeeding in pubulic, because they probably didn't do it themselves. For those opposed, try holding a baby in the proper positin for feeding in a public restroom and tell me then that you would do it. After you  try that, take your dinner to the restroom and tell me you don't worry about contamination. And if your still offended, realize this- if you are offended seeing a women breatfeeding a a table because you are bored at your own, why is it not offensive to see her in the bathroom even closer where you may even have to speak? Don't tell me because she should be in the stall because the next thing you know there will be an agry mob of women who have to pee that don't want to wait a half hour!!!!!
 
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October 8, 2005, 12:22 am PDT

What are we teaching mothers-to-be?!

I feel sad for any women who think breastfeeding is something that should be "removed" into the bathroom rather than doing the most wonderful and most beautiful thing a woman can do. Yes, be respectful and cover your breast the best you can, but breastfeed ladies! Our society has made motherhood a convenience with formula and C-sections. It saddens me to think a woman would rather give her child man-made artificial milk rather than what mother nature blessed every mother with, natural food for you child... breast milk. And now there are "women" asking us to hide the one pure, wholesome gift we can give our children and hide in a bathroom to feed them.... My opinion these "women" have some other serious issues! Give me a break! I would gladly "raise heck" if a restaurant asked me to "remove" me & my breastfeeding child.  

 
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