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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 8, 2005, 2:19 am PDT

Give me a break

Dr. Phil: 

     I had to comment on your Friday, Oct. 7th show. I have something to say on every subject. Okay, breastfeeding in public. I have a kid, I breastfed. Should be no problem but you don't have to display it to the world. You can provide your child with his/her need to be fed using clothing designed for this or cover the breast (don't have to cover the child) with a towel, napkin, blanket whatever. Simple solution.  

  

Condoms handed out at school, absolutley. As you said, this would have to be implemented with a good sex education course. One thing I really want to say is people should quit making their children feel bad or wrong for having God given, normal, sexual urges. I think this is a big part of people's problems these days. Teach your children morals as well as the consequences of sexuality but also let them know these are normal feelings EVERYONE experiences, but to be responsible and make the right choice. BUT, if they choose to have sex (which we all know many of them will) then......be responsible and make the right choice (by protecting yourself). If you teach your children morals and right from wrong, to be responsible for their choices.....guess what? alot of them are still going to choose to have sex long before you feel they are ready. Wouldn't we all want them to have access to protective sex if that's what they choose to do? Rather than, choosing to do it with no protection???? Thinking their parents aren't there and won't ever know what they did? Hello??????? 

  

Okay, disiplining other people's children in public is a losing situation all the way around . Doesn't matter if the kid needed disipline desperatly, you as a stranger are not equipped emoitonally, mentally or otherwise to deal with a strangers child in any way, shape or form. You as a stranger not only have no connection to this child therefore can not really offer any positive influence but also may not be aware of special emotional, mental needs of a special child besides those of a normal child. If an occurance is so offensive to warrant action on a strangers part, approaching the parent is the only form of action you can take unless immediate harm can come to the child or someone else. 

  

 
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October 8, 2005, 2:41 am PDT

Breastfeeding Debate

I am shocked that people are offended by mothers breastfeeding their children in public! The lady who was on the con side really irritated me, bc all I kept hearing her say was how "unattractive" it is. I dont' recall asking her what she found attractive, I mean I didnt' find her appearance appealing, KWIM!?? I b'fd 2 outta 3 of my children and I did it in public and never had anyone say anything of the contrary to me. That's why I am finding this topic so shocking. I have witnessed mothers b'fding there babies, and have thought nothing of it. I also want to mention that before I had children of my own,. I didn't find a mother feeding her baby to be gross or disgusting.  A baby has to eat, and if that's how the mother wishes to provide for her baby, then who are we to say take it to your car, or take it to the batrhoom? I mean, c'mon, would you want to eat your dinner in the restroom? I just wish that we could be more educated on this topic, and I agree with some of the pp that Dr. Phil should def do an hour segment on this topic, bc the 20 mins just wasn't enuf.
 
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October 8, 2005, 2:43 am PDT

ignorant? lack of respect?

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Okay, get a clue here!   First of all, do you like eating in a place where you can smell other people's gas and hear them urinate and defecate? I doubt it. It's not my breast I'm worried about being sanitary; it's the facility itself. My breast doesn't just jump out on its own. Ever notice how many people don't wash their hands? They are touching things I would have to touch. Not to mention it is the rare restroom that has a comfortable, clean, and separate place for nursing moms. If I come across the rare one of those where there is a SEPARATE lounge, I use it IF that's where I am when my baby is hungry.   You know what? I have never taken off a stitch of clothing in order to breastfeed in public, so I don't know where you get the idea that nursing moms are stripping in order to feed. What are you looking at? A "Girls Gone Wild" video??? That isn't how it works. I'm not an exhibitionist. I could probably be in a restaurant booth next you and you wouldn't even know my baby is nursing and not napping in my arms. If you feel the need to look and stare, that's your problem.   It is a sexual issue because this country is obsessed with the female body as a representation of sexuality. I don't know what you think you are seeing. At worst a brief flash of skin when the baby is latching on, but even that is unlikely. If you see a baby that you know is nursing and yet you can't see any part of breast, let alone the nipple...and that makes you uncomfortable...it's YOU.   I have my boundaries and respect my rights and those of my child's first. I'm a mom and it's my job to give my kids the best start possible. Besides, every time a mom nurses her baby in public, that's one more mother acting in a normal loving manner - just as much so as a bottle-feeding mom. There is no shame in using breasts for their intended purpose.   I'm tired of the attitude that is being perpetuated by statements like yours. It shows ignorance and THAT is a true lack of respect.
okay, you say it is ignorant and a lack of respect for us to feel uncomfortable when we are out with our family and we see a mother sitting on a park bench in front of the jungle gym breastfeeding their kid? What is more ignorant here? Not knowing that youre making us uncomfortable by having a baby suck on  their moms nipple in front of the other kids? You know it makes us uncomfortable and yet you do not care so you yourself is showing a lack of respect. not us. get it straight. feeling a bit uncomfortable by the presence of a bare breasted nursing mother is not showing a lack of respect but showing a natural feeling that we cannot change.  We cant help but find that a bit odd. 
 
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October 8, 2005, 2:47 am PDT

Adition to I Have A Ben

Did   YOU KNOW thar Men can also bresr feed? It Has Been Proven! 

Ohhhhhhhh Well Guess what they can. 

If a baby suckls on his Nipple long enough he will produce milk and Nourish that Baby. 

 Ha, Ya wanna see men doin it instead of women? Wanna Talk about a Gross Out Party???  

Haha. That is the only way you will get women to Stop feedin their babies.  OH GEE Hrere Is a thought, Lets make men get preg.    

Not Possible Right. So let Nature take its course. 

  

The Wiccan Becky 

 
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October 8, 2005, 2:52 am PDT

That is VERY illogical

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No!!! Schools should not hand out condoms!!!! They are sending a message its okay to have sex!!! 

  

It's the parents responsibilty to educate their kids - when they don't they fail as a parent doing their job!! 

  

 School's  cannot give medication without the parents consent and a doctors note. 

  

What's next - school's handing out drugs!!! 

If you are going to argue against giving out condems, at least provide some relevant and logical arguments. Schools making condemns available will equal schools giving out drugs? ? That argument has no place in any logical discussion. 

  

And a sidenote - what about the kids who have unattentive parents? Parents who really could care less? Schools don't promote sex, in fact, they teach abstinance as well. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 2:58 am PDT

Pass Em Out!!!

You Bet let the kids have the condems. 

Cause No Matter What the Parents Think , those kids "not all" Are having SEX , No matter the KIDS don't care 

Ya know why they dont care? 

 Cause they think that everything we say is a bunch of crap and they are not us, Yet they become us unknowingly until it happens to them. 

  

I was a teen mom, I got pregnant when I was 15, I had her when I was 16.  

Not all parents talk to their kids. Ya some do and I give them paraise for it. 

But Some are not, As I WAS NOT and i got preg. so I definatly see both sides but I have to lean tward "give them the condems". 

Cause They will do it anyway, and I know alot of Procrastinatiors that  will say My KIDS won't do That. 

Becky 

 
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October 8, 2005, 3:23 am PDT

Breast Feeding in public

This is for the women on Dr. Phil who said she did not care of other people liked it or not that she would do it and not cover up. I just want to SAY to HER, think of this. 

  

You and I are seated next to each other at a restaurant  that allows smoking and I am a smoker. 

You decide to whip out a breast and start feeding your baby I decide I want to smoke so I light a cigarette. 

  

You ask me nicely to please not smoke when you are feeding your baby and I say, this is a smoking allowed restaurant  and I want to smoke and I don't really care if you like it or not, I am going to smoke don't like it leave !!! 

  

See that way the shoe is on the other foot and lady it is called consideration for others around you !!! Treat other people the way YOU would like to be treated 

 
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October 8, 2005, 3:25 am PDT

this is america!!!

this is america! and women who chose to feed their babies the way that nature intended should not be looked down upon by those who disagree. I would much rather see a lady breastfeeding her baby in public than letting her child go hungry. I dont understand how people became so disgusted by breastfeeding. It is natural!  

I chose to formula feed because I was unable to breastfeed. I highly admire those women who are fighting for their rights and the rights of their babies. Keep up the good work ladies! 

 
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October 8, 2005, 3:26 am PDT

Bfeeding the most natural thing in the world

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i would like to hear what robin has to say and not just a few seconds but lets demonstrate it and see what the big deal is I would bring my son and feed him in the audience.  Then lets see how bad this whole breastfeeding in public really is.  get tips and suggestins

I had both my girls in Mexico, the country! where not only is breastfeeding the norm but it is extremely hot and humid, so covering with anything would most likely smother the child.  Yet i did it discreetly without ever exposing my breasts.  Bottle feeding is rare there so no one blinks and eye, we're simply feeding our children. Everyday everywhere women breast feed it is natural bodily function.   Embarassment is not an issue, isnt this what the breasts are for?  Maybe if we didn't "sexualize" them and people acknowledged that they produce milk for our children, it would be more accepting.  I am glad i breast fed my children, not only does it bond with them but it is better for their health then man made formula.  And as far as explaining it to a child of 5 and especially a boy, how about the truth, that breasts produce milk and shes feeding her child!  If you dont tell him, he will learn from his buddy whos mom just had a baby.  Lets not put sexual conotation into everything!   

 
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October 8, 2005, 3:37 am PDT

Lighten up folks

I have nursed a little one and modesty is the best policy, always, no matter where it is done.  A cotton diaper tossed over the shoulder or even nursing blouses are available for discretion for those who are true ladies. Flaunting is not a requirement to get the childs needs met.
 
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