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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 8, 2005, 6:42 am PDT

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So show more respect for my rights and opinions.  That's exactly what I expressed.  You definitely sat in judgment of all mothers who breastfeed in public.  Even though it's just your opinion, you chose to express it to an audience of millions of people.  When you do that, you expose yourself to feedback you might not like.   And to quote you, "people should show more respect for other peoples rights and opinions".   I rest my case. 

 

Shellyee, once you have given birth, you may change your mind.  You'd better leave your options open.
 
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October 8, 2005, 6:43 am PDT

good idea. slippery slope

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After watching the show today i felt I had to voice my 2 cents worth on the subject of breastfeeding...my first thought is why could Shelly not answer Dr. Phil's question about what she found so offending about BF in public? Every women that I know who BF in public did so as discreetly as possible.  Both of my children would not allow for a blanket to go over their heads so i wore shirts that I could easily undo & hung a small blanket on my shoulder. The most people could see, if they bothered to look, was a little cleavage. I feel that if BFing in public is such a problem then why not offer mothers a place to go? Why not put a room in the back of a store, restaurant or other public place that would allow mothers a comfortable place to BF out of the public eye? Just about everywhere u go these days there are public bathrooms, why not public BFing rooms? Would this not be an more enlightened solution than banning moms to bathrooms? 

I agree with these points, but people should be careful when suggesting "separate but equal" places to send mothers to. It IS nice to have private breastfeeding rooms for mothers who want them. But it is NOT appropriate or legal to require that mothers only breastfeed in these "back rooms." There are some good articles and suggestions for nursing in public on the website ProMoM.org/nno/ just page down to the "reading room".
 
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October 8, 2005, 6:44 am PDT

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In my opinion, I do not think women should breastfeed in public. That is not ladylike at all. If you need to do that, go find a restroom or someplace where you can have privacy. Now about the sex education, schools should not give out condoms. That is a big NO NO! Leave anything personal and private to the parents, not the teachers. Its the parents job to tell their children about sex and other things too.
 I am not sure that I should even respond to this message, but I am going to anyway.  I am an Australian mum of 2, Jordan nearly 4 and Hannah 15mths.  I waited a long time to have my children and cherish every minute I can with them.  Breastfeeding helped me give them what I thought (and still think - Hannah is still feeding and shows no signs of giving up yet!) was the best !  I am  concerned about the lady like comment but wont say too much there, but I am even more concerned with the comment about finding a restroom.  How often do you eat your lunch in a restroom???  If I felt I needed privacy to feed my child, I would surely find an appropriate place, but the restroom would NOT even been on the list.  However I do not feel that I need PRIVACY when I feed my daughter so discreetly and quickly.  Sometimes she just needs a 2 minute comfort feed if she is tired or scared etc and I am sure in a public place this would be a better solution than having a screaming child disrupting anyone within a large radius (Hannah has a great set of lungs!).  If you are not a mother yet, you might surprise yourself one day as a lot of things change when your beautiful child enters this world.  There isnt anything you wouldnt do for them.  If you are a mother an missed the chance of breastfeeding for whatever reason, then I am sorry for you as you may have missed out on the most wonderful experience of a lifetime.  PS.  if you are wondering about being discreet, recently I was feeding Hannah at a motorcross race day, and my brother-in-law noticed me feeding his comment was "I didnt know you were still feeding!" and I have been doing so in his home virtually every week when I visit!
 
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October 8, 2005, 6:53 am PDT

breast feeding

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Go Tammy.  You and your baby are beautiful!!!!  

First of all you are not in public. You are in your own hospital room. You are also in a room with others like yourself. And my belief is people have a right to do as they see fit in the privacy of their own home, hospital room, etc...  I just do not want to see it. Before going out for a trip why can't you pump your breast milk and put it in a bottle. No one gets offended by a baby bottle. I do not care how natural it is, i don't want to see it. Just as masturbation is a healthy normal act, but i wouldn't want to see that either. All we ask is you show some respect when being out in public.  Covering up is respectful, but using a bottle with your own milk in it is even better. What is it going to hurt. The baby gets the exact same thing, just in a different manner. A woman's breast will always be viewed by some as a sexual part of the body. Just because you have a baby hanging from it, doesn't change the views. And if you don't want to go somewhere because you do not want to drag other kids with you if they happen to be with you. Then schedule your outings around the baby's' feeding time. I know i certainly would as a matter of respect for others.
 
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October 8, 2005, 6:57 am PDT

Starve?

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would you let your child starve ? NO if they are hungry feed them it makes perfect sense to me if  YOUR comfortable doing it then do it if not then cover up, take them in the bathroom , whatever but dot starve them sheesh whats the big deal its a breast its  part of your body and its NOTHING ot be ashamed about if people dont like what they see in public when your feeding your child then they need not look twice as for condoms  Im going to be very HONEST I have 2 boys ages 19 and 20 I HONESTLY dont even know how to answer this BUT will say something and please , please, please tell me what you think about my opinion  and be honest with me about it  I do NOT think they should have condoms in vending machines at schools because it to ME is telling your kids its ok to go have sex even when they may not even be ready to BUT then ON THE OTHER HAND to if they EALLY wanted to have sex and it wasnt there for them they could get aids or other sexual transmitted diseases  BUT here is another fatc almost ALL health departments carry condoms FREE so if they choose to have sex they are there for them for protection so what is your opinion please let me know I DONT LIKE IT BUT ITS ALWAYS THERE FOR THEM let me know Thanks Lori
My oldest is 30 years old. I felt uncomfortable with the thought of breastfeeding back then and 2 children later I never breast fed and they are all healthy and doing fine. Starve? Carry a bottle.
 
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October 8, 2005, 6:59 am PDT

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            I had a moment of shock when at a family baby shower...or was it a wedding shower...anyway. My cousin (super nice and outgoing) out of the blue pulled out her large breast to feed her baby and I went into shock because I had never seen anyone do such a thing with so much pride. She lifted her shirt UP and I was just....ah, woe. Didn't say nothing though. With all the men sitting there, I just felt it was uncomfortable for my male cousins. I saw quite a few of them, their behavior said it all even though they kept quiet. 

 

I like the way Dr. Phil stands on nuetral ground. This society has grown to become over competitive, and boisterous. Where people consider one another because we are al differenting in opinions and backgrounds. What is boils down to is consideration for one another. Then we will have peace between us. People with strong opinions are combatable....walk away. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 7:00 am PDT

It is okay they are only breasts do not panick

It is okay people, they are just breasts, every woman has them. I do not know why America has this preoccupation with proving the human body to be a disgusting thing, when we are not. If a woman wants to feed her child she should not have to go into some smelly disgusting public restroom to do so. Why should she be ashamed? We have topless or nude beaches, magazines, porn, strip clubs, nudity and blunt sexuality on TV  etc... but here we are fighting the fight to stop woman from breast feeding, what sense does that make? If knowing a woman has breasts and can use them in ways other than sexually, makes you uncomfortable, the problem is inside of you.  

Teaching kids about sex in school and handing out condoms, does this encourage promiscuity? I would definitely have to say no. Educating our kids on their bodies and the possible risks of sexual activity is not wrong and it should be done by both parents and educators, unfortunately most parents do not feel comfortable talking to their kids openly. Our society is so sexually repressed it is almost dumbfounding. Talking to your kids about sex and showing them how to use condoms is not the same as giving them permission to go wild. I believe it says hey you know what I know you are at that age and I just want you to be safe no matter what decision you make and believe me it is their decision and they will do what they want one way or another. I know when I was in my teens, my dad found condoms in my room and he took them, I still do not understand that logic. I was not having sex, but, what does taking away my condoms do? In fact I thought why would my dad do that and risk me having unprotected sex?  

 
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October 8, 2005, 7:00 am PDT

I watched

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Oh dear- I feel I that no one actually watched the show, or if they did the sound on their TV sound was off. The woman next to me said she should be able to do whatever she wants when she wants to. All I said was that people should have more respect for each others rights and opinions. People should learn to compromise so that everyone can have a fair shake. Parents or non-parents, breastfeeding or not, I have idea how anyone can disagree with that.

I watched the show. I watched the clips of the other woman breastfeeding. It seemed pretty quick and non effective. her shirt covered what her baby did not. What I heard you say was breast feeding mothers should go to the bathroom, and then some absurd statement about whipping your breast on the toilet. when my children were old enough to pull off the cover I simply wore a loose shirt to cover what their mouths did not. Is that offensive? or is it just the thought of a mother providing nourishment to her child that "makes you lose your appetite"?
 

 
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October 8, 2005, 7:11 am PDT

Why are we even discussing these things?

I watched yesterday's show and frankly was surprised and appalled that these topics were even being discussed.  1):  If a woman wants to breastfeed her children in public, then be courteous and use a burp rag, blanket or something to not expose your breast in public.  How would you feel if you were arrested for indecent exposure?  Could happen.  2): If the schools are handing out condoms, must mean that the parents aren't doing their jobs.  Sex should be taught at home, and our public schools should not have to go to such lengths.  I am only able to comment on these two topics as I had to leave and did not get to watch the third topic being discussed.  Come on people, aren't these pretty petty things to be discussing?  There are more problems in the world today that need fixing. 
 
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October 8, 2005, 7:11 am PDT

Those darn kids!

My husband left for a deployment when our youngest of four children was only 10 days old.  So in some ways I was a single mom with an 11, 9, and 6 year old plus the baby. One week after my husband left, a group of us were meeting at a local restaurant for a buffet lunch.  I walked in and let the older three kids wait in line while I  went to a table to place the baby with a friend.  As I turned around all three of my older kids were hanging and swinging from a wooden divider that partioned off the waiting line.  I knew at that moment it was going to be a long, long six month deployment if I didn't  draw a line in the sand at that moment.  I picked up the baby, gathered my startled children, and returned home.  We ate peanut butter sandwiches and talked about behavior in public places.  I didn't have to yell, threaten, plead or beg my children to behave.  They knew and I knew they were out of control in that restaurant.  They didn't need a reminder -they needed a logical consequence.  There were four of them and only one of me but I was the smartest :-)   

 
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