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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 8, 2005, 10:40 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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I very nearly had my second child in a car!  I only had 45 minutes of labor, and he was born 12 minutes after I got to the hospital.  There were no doctors there at the time, and I didn't have time to put a hospital gown on, so I understand what you are saying.  I simply meant that I wouldn't WANT to have that happen to me.  I also never blatantly exposed myself while breastfeeding, but when my baby needed to be fed, you can bet he got it right then and there. You and I are on the same page!!  :)
Yes, my water broke in the middle of Spanish class and the school didn't want me to leave without a parents signature. I finally told them if they didn't let me leave on my own I would have it right there and I sat down and started to breath. Needless to say, they let me leave!
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:41 am PDT

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Someone was complaining about their kids seeing a nursing mother and not wanting to explain that to them yet.  So in an effort to not offend anyone I have decided to hide my nursing dog from the front yard where a child may see her nurse and i made a shirt for the pregnant cat...LOL...I do hope that they don't notice what the horses are doing in the pasture!!!  I guess I should close in my hen nest.  She might have to explain where those eggs came from....boy, a day on the farm would wake em up.....LOL 

Nursing, like anything else, can be done with class or without.  Some are offended by the exposure and I understand that.  But most of these people are offended by the IDEA of breastfeeding.  They freak when they know its mother's milk in a bottle.  It's not just seeing it or knowing it, it's the whole idea.  These have major issues, but they have nothing to do with nursing. 

I wonder what that woman tells her kids about pregnant women...should they hide too?  I don't think so 

AMEN!!!   Every word you say is true. 

When breastfeeding becomes the natural and serene, life-bourishing act it is, and is no longer 'sexualised' on the one hand, or 'flaunted' on the other, we will all look back on this and see it for what it is ~ humankind using the gifts we were given as they were meant to be used. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:45 am PDT

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Here's a point.  I've never made a comment to anyone using a bottle full of chemicals to feed their babies.  We all know that breast is best, but I've always respected a mom's right to choose otherwise.  However, to be completely honest, it does seem unnatural and unnattractive to me to see a baby drinking a bottle...especially when I see a mom prepare it right there at the table....dump the powder, pour the water, shake, shake, shake, and often lay the child in a seat and prop the bottle so he/she can drink it without mom's assistance.  It actually makes me feel very uncomfortable.  Should those mom's do this in the bathroom, too?
I support breasefeeding and yeah some of them I do think should be forced to the bathroom with their children. Maybe then if they were in a small closed in area with their child they would pick them up and hold the bottle for them.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:47 am PDT

Breast Feeding

Dr.Phil I had a note for you but something happened to it so to make a long story short let's do this I am ashamed when women expose themselves to the public eye to get attention for people.  That's not the way God intented for this to be.  Feeding yes but not exposing.  I have kin that do this and I always leave the room because it's to me a disgrace that you think everyone should get a chance to see your breast.  If your going out for the evening have someone lined up for planning or short of notice and it will all be alright this way no one will have to know about any one elses business.  And if someone else is going to keep the child while you are out for the evening you can purchase a breast pump and they will have the  milk with them you want your child to have in his/her diet.  "bootom line if you feel that you have to do this in the public eye I feel like this is disrepectful for you your family and all of us that don't like it.    

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:48 am PDT

Breastfeeding and aftraid of a child seeing

If you are afraid of your child seeing another mom breastfeeding, here is what to do: Act normal, calmly say to your child, "She is feeding her baby, isn't that a beautiful baby". Children react to our reactions, if you cover your childs eyes and run out he/she is going to take a interest and go about talking about it like it was the event of the season. But if you explain, and do it calmly like it is a normal everyday thing, it will be a normal thing to him/her and won't be a negative experience.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:52 am PDT

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Oriola? Mental shock? True women? Shock a pervert?  

  

Are you serious?  

There is nothing wrong with breastfeeding. What is wrong is the mothers. They don't think of other people. I breastfeed my 3 children and I did it in public. I covered up because I knew that other people didn't want to see it. I do think that businesses should think about setting aside a small area for women to breastfeed, but I don't think they should feel like they have a disease. Breastfeeding is normal, what do you think people did before formula was invented. When I breastfeed, I had a woman say something to me. We were at a resturant. and she had to turn around in her seat to see me. She came over to my table and asked me if I was breastfeeding, because I was covered up and you couldn't see anything, not even when I started or finished and I said I was. She then told me that I shouldn't do it in public. I told her that it was normal and if it bothered her, she should turn around and mine her own business. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:54 am PDT

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If you are afraid of your child seeing another mom breastfeeding, here is what to do: Act normal, calmly say to your child, "She is feeding her baby, isn't that a beautiful baby". Children react to our reactions, if you cover your childs eyes and run out he/she is going to take a interest and go about talking about it like it was the event of the season. But if you explain, and do it calmly like it is a normal everyday thing, it will be a normal thing to him/her and won't be a negative experience.
I agree with you totally. Some women are too prone to freak out and make a seen, but I hope for the sake of their children they will learn "life" happens and you cant control it.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:54 am PDT

About Fridays Show

  

About Breastfeeding: 

 

I don't want to see a woman breastfeeding no more than I want to see a woman walking around topless, or a man walking around with his penis hanging out. 

  

About Condoms In School: 

 

I do NOT! think schools should hand out condoms, it sends the WRONG MESSAGE!! 

 

 

 

About Punishing Other People's Children: 

 

I don't think anybody should punish other peoples children, unless that child is bothering them in some way. And I think that the priest had every right to tell that woman to take her children out of the church. A church is a place that people go to pray and listen to storys about god, NOT!! to hear someones child screaming. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:55 am PDT

Would you rather hear my baby screaming

In response to the outrage about nursing in public I have one general question, would you rather hear my hungry baby screaming just so you don't have to see me breastfeeding? 

I highly doubt it, then I would be the bad momma that let's her child scream disturbing those around her. 

I have bf'd in public and I would do it again, when you are out and you are hungry you grab a quick bite from a food joint, when my baby is hungry, he does not have that privilage, bf'ing is his fast food joint. 

  

I do not bf'd for you to find it appealing or attractive, I bf'd to nourish my child and IMHO, his needs come before yours. 

  

I could also ask what the heck you are doing staring at my breasts in the first place since I am always discreet but no doubt you'd all have some witty reply like " I can't help but not notice" well I couldn't help but notice your ass crack hanging out of your pants, which by the way I find offensive but I'm not about to walk up to you and ask you to put it away. 

  

Breastfeeding mothers should be encouraged and supported. They are giving their children the absolute best. Shame on anyone who makes them feel guilty about it. It's bad enough we have to hide it as it is. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:57 am PDT

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I find it AMUSING that you find breastfeeding so DISGUSTING. We are not plopping a boob out on the table in a room full of people, then making an announcement saying "Come watch me! Come watch me!" 

I think it's a woman's personal decision how long she should nurse her child. Just as it is to nurse or to bottle feed. I fail to see where any of it is your business. Is that woman's boobie yours? Do you own it? Is the child yours? Are you providing the food that the mother is eating so she can nourish her child? Shaddup and find something else to gripe about. All mother's should do what I do. Smile, nod, and go on with what you're going to do anyway. You can't please everyone all of the time. And Some, you can't please at all.  

I have to relate a story.  

When my eldest graduated from University, we had all gathered for a formal dinner to honor her. My ex husband was there with both his current girlfirend and the shackup he created a child with. As we sat in this very nice place with family (translate that as older members raised in a more polite society) the shack up, holding her child lifted her shirt and whipped it out. 

 For those of us  raised in a more gentle way this was not only offensive but horrible. My mother ( in her late 60's) and my grand mother (in her mid 90's) were terribly emabrrased. Not only for themselves, but for the woman with the baby. I could see by the look on their faces they knew that this woman had not been raised in a home  where discrestion is appreciated and expected. As the baby fed, the smaking sounds permiated the table. There was no attempt to cover up.  

My daughter, trying to be gracious, attempted to direct attention away from this woman, but she too was embarrased by this woman's lack of respect for others at the table. Whether you agree or not, for us,  this display turned a wonderful celbration of my daughter graduation into a moment that was uncomfortable and not remembered fondly.   

As you would ask us to be respectful of your "right" to feed your child when ever and where ever you want, I would ask that you might be respectful of people that have a different value system from the one you were raised with.  

Ps. Yes, I was providing her with the food...... the whole meal was at my expense as it was a graduation dinner.  

 
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