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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 8, 2005, 10:24 pm PDT

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Breastfeeding in public.  Whats the harm.  The breast has become so sexual that it cannot be used for its intended purpose.  Sure we can see men walking around topless...nothing sexual there.  But if your a woman cover up?  Backwards. 

  

"its not attractive"? What a stupid comment.  Not worth commenting on that one.  I am a breastfeeding mother.  Every mother and child have this right.  Infants do not have patience.  Its a survival instinct.  A hungry baby will not "wait" until you've paid for your meal or you've gotten a "free stall" in the washroom.  They need to eat and eat right away.   

  

I'm just not good at nursing with a blanket! I've tried.  I used the blanket, I used a shawl...I tried to go to the bathroom, I would go to my car.  I was so uncomfortable and nervious that my milk would not let down.  My daughter wouldn't take a bottle and she would feel my tension trying to nurse in public.  I would try and "conceal" everything and nurse her.  She would pull and tug.  She would cry I would cry ...until one day I said I just don't care anymore!!!! LET THEM LOOK!  And out it came.  My breast bared and my baby finally happy.  10 mins.  Only 5 seconds of a bare breast.  Mom happy, baby happy and you know what.  No one around me even noticed! 

  

How often does it really happen to you nay sayers out there.  Is it really that bothersome?  I doubt it.  You just want to find something to complain about.  Get over it.  We have breasts for a reason.  Do the research bottles are not as beneficial to babies. Also if you offer it too soon to a baby that is too young they may reject the breast.  Breastfeeding is too beneficial to the baby to risk such a thing in order to save you 5 seconds of "embarrasment".  Again...get over it! 

 You go girl.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:28 pm PDT

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Quote From: mommyof5

So would it be ok if I put some breastmilk on a plate for the baby to drink? Is that what you are saying? It seems a little silly and sure to draw more attention than simply breastfeeding...but if you say so
If your child is clever enough to eat your breastmilk with silverware like an adult, by all means......
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:28 pm PDT

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Quote From: ibfnpublic

yes, we do eat off of plates.. plates that are sitting on a table.. a table that we are sitting behind... which makes it less noticable for you to see that we are breastfeeding in the first place.. which means you would REALLY have to be paying CLOSE attention to notice us in the first place!
Then why do so many people notice? I may have been the one on the stage, but I am not the one single human being on earth who thinks this way. I am not even the only person on this board.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:30 pm PDT

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Quote From: shellyee

After watching the show, I was angry that the guest thinks that breastfeeding is not attractive and so on. I have 2 kids under the age of 2 and a 3 month old. I breastdeed my son in public and do not care what people think.  

 

Of course not. because you are the center of the universe, and everyone should bend to meet you and your childrens needs. MOVE OUT OF THE WAY- right? I think maybe we should all just start doing exactly as we please, common curtesy be damned.  

  

I see that you said you are always covered up. Not everybody is that kind.  

 No one is saying that everyone should bend to meet our children's ways or to move ot of the way. All I am saying is just to let us be and feed our babies.

Common courtesy goes both ways.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:31 pm PDT

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Quote From: treereach

 Ummm babies eat STERILE MILK from a breast that is not (mine isn't anyways) any dirtier, in fact, is probably ALOT CLEANER than your hands. I imagine you DO eat your french fries with your hands right?
Actually, I don't eat fried food, so no. But that is beside the point. The fries are still served on a plate, or something, not on someones bare chest.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:34 pm PDT

Just some thoughts

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as a breastfeeding mother, why do you think that breastfeeding over a year is "over doing it a bit"  medical studies have shown that a baby continues to get nutritional benefits out of nursing past a year, even past 2 years...  breastmilk changes with the needs of your child..  i nursed my oldest for 42 months and he was hardly ever sick and is very very smart...  i attribute this to breastfeeding.. 
Sorry to break it to you, but I didn't breast feed either of my girls (now 14 and 12 years), and they hardly ever get sick. And they are very smart, too. We are also a very close knit family. It takes a lot more to raise a happy, healthy child than breast feeding. Someone earlier stated that people who are uncomfortable with breast feeding in public are probably uncomfortable with their own bodies. It is my unprofessional opinion that this person is right. Breast feeding in public (please don't misinterpret this to mean the act itself) makes me very uncomfortable. And yes, I am uncomfortable with myself. Regardless of that, there was a time that I wouldn't have wanted my children to see an exposed breast. I feel it might confuse them to see exposed breasts when I try to teach them that bodies are sacred AND private. There will be a time when they will see other women's bodies, but please allow me to decide when that will be. Additionally, please don't try to equate exposed breasts to low cut shirts. It insults our intelligence. And let's get off of our high horses with the bathroom comments. Of course we don't want you and your baby exposed to bathroom germs, but honestly -- did you see Oprah's show about How Clean Is Your House? There are germs - nasty ones at that - everywhere. The whole point behind "recommending" a bathroom was discretion. It was to allow me the choice not to have my children even have the opportunity to view a partially naked woman. It all boils down to good, old fashioned courtesy.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:34 pm PDT

woo

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Well, you got me to laugh harder than anyone else. Almost harder than anyone else. ......
 GREAT response. Very intelligent.
 
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October 8, 2005, 10:36 pm PDT

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Quote From: denmarr

WE ARE NOT ANIMALS AND SHOULD NOT BE ACTING AS SUCH,  WHIPPING OUT A BREAST FOR YOUR CHILD TO SUCK ON WHENEVER THEY WANT IS NO DIFFERENT THAT THE ANIMAL WORLD.  IF WE WANT TO BE TREATED AS ADULT WOMAN THEN ACT LIKE IT, HAVE ENOUGH SELF RESPECT TO FEED IN PRIVATE OR AT LEAST DISCREETLY. YOU ARE INFRINGING ON OTHER PEOPLES RIGHTS BY DISROBING IN PUBLIC TO FEED.  YOUR RIGHTS END WHERE MINE BEGIN AND I CHOOSE NOT TO EXPLAIN ALL THIS TO LITTLE CHILDREN WHOM I HAVE WITH ME AT THE PUBLIC PLACE. WE ARE NOT ANIMALS AND IF WE WANT TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT THEN SHOW OTHER PEOPLE RESPECT OF THEIR RIGHTS BY NOT PUTTING THEM IN THIS SITUATION EMBARRASSED,UNCOMFORTABLE,SHY WHATEVER IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO FLAUNT IT BECAUSE YOU CAN. 

so am i to assume that i am not an adult woman because i choose to feed my baby in public?  last time i checked, i didn't "disrobe" to feed my child...   

  

and actually, we are mammals..  we produce milk to feed our children..  whether that is in public or not..   

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:38 pm PDT

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Then why do so many people notice? I may have been the one on the stage, but I am not the one single human being on earth who thinks this way. I am not even the only person on this board.

that comment was for all of you who think this way, not just you in particular..  if you notice me nursing at a table, you must be staring at me as hard as you can, and be looking under the table as well as standing over it..   

 

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October 8, 2005, 10:38 pm PDT

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Quote From: divamommy

I could care less if someone wants to BFIP, I have issues with women who seem to think BF'ing is the be all and end all of motherhood and nayone who doesn't isn't doing what's "best" for their baby. I formula fed by choice because I wanted to, I wanted my body back and I wanted to be able to leave and not worry if my child would take a bottle. I think sometimes it's less the mom BFIP but the mom's "holier than thou" tude that gets people.
Since when are facts holier-than-thou?

Formula is NOT just as good as breastmilk, nutritionally. That's not an opinion, that's not debatable, it's scientific fact proven time and time again. Even the formula companies themselves are obligated to acknowledge that their product is inferior to breastmilk, hence the government-mandated "breast is best" on formula cans. Anyone who doesn't breastfeed ISN'T doing what's best for their baby from a nutritional standpoint, because what's best for babies to eat is breastmilk, end of story. That doesn't mean that people who formula feed are bad mothers by definition, or that they fail to do what's best for their babies in other areas of life, or even that breastfeeding is the be-all and end-all of motherhood, but you can't claim you're doing what's best for your baby by formula feeding. It's a lie, a statement contradictory to all known fact.
 
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