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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 9, 2005, 2:26 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

Quote From: shellyee

Why do people keep saying this I have NEVER taken my top off or gone topless in public!! 

This does not mean you can account for everyone. This means you can account for yourself. 

  

Again I would like to know if you feel breastfeeding is ok 'if' a woman DOES take others feeling to mind and does it discreetly?? If she is covered?  

I have yes thousands and thousands of times. People say they are reading my answers, but I am wondering........... 

  

I was taught not to stare and to respect others feelings. So is anyone thinking of the babies feelings here?? Should the baby have to wait? The mother and other grown adults should care more about the babies feeling than their own? I personal put my children first, even above myself. .  

It is your child and you should think of it first. But if you bring the child into a public setting like a restauraunt, are you really saying that everybody in that entire restauraunt needs to consider your childs needs first above all else? There are people in this world who are finished raising their children and don't want to go through it again with someone elses. Their are people who have made a conscience decision NOT to have children and do not want to deal with someone else's. Do that make everyone a baby hater? No.  

  

You said it yourself- it's your baby and therefore your responsibility. YOURS, not everybody elses. 

And yet, babies are a part of society just like everyone else.  If you choose to live in society, you have to deal with babies, young children, teenagers, 20-year-olds, the elderly, fat people, people with disease, people with learning disabilities, people in wheelchairs, the list goes on and on. 

  

If you don't want to deal with a huge segment of our society (and one that will probably be caring for you as you age), then you need to isolate yourself.  It's YOUR responsibility to do so, not mine, not my baby's.   

 
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October 9, 2005, 2:30 pm PDT

I agree...

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Perhaps my baby is not hungry before I leave the house! 

  

Again, are you a mother?  Besides, as I have stated many times on this board...you can't actually SEE anything.  The baby's head is in the way.  You just KNOW that the baby is sucking and that's what people are uncomfortable with! 

I'm yet to be able to force feed my baby. If she's not hungry, she won't eat.  And like I've previously stated, and others, I'm yet to actually notice a woman bf'ing in public. Guess I'm just not looking hard enough?
 
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October 9, 2005, 2:33 pm PDT

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Quote From: makidd

I am against moms breastfeeding in public if they are not covered up.   If your child is pulling the blanket off, then he/she is probably too old to be breastfed anymore.  It's the same thing as if we get upset when a teenager is wearing just a bathing suit top and her breasts are almost hanging out.  We have enough nudity in TV, films, etc.  Let's get back to being more conservative in our appearance.  We don't have to pull a breast out and just start breastfeeding, we can cover up, then others know what's going on, and they can respect that.  I breastfed my children and when I was out in public, I went to the bathroom to breastfeed, or I would pump my breast beforehand, and feed them the breastmilk in a bottle.

Hmmmm....the AAP recommends breastfeeding for at *least* a year, the WHO at least 2 years.  My babies were both capable of squirming out from under a blanket *well* before then.  I think I'll listen to the experts, thank you very much.   

  

It's very unsanitary to breastfeed in a bathroom.  I feel sad that you did that. :( 

 
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October 9, 2005, 2:33 pm PDT

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Quote From: shellyee

Please- you need to show me where it says I told you to go feed your children in the bathroom? I mean, isn't that what breastfeeding mothers love about feeding?? It can be done anywhere and it's THE BEST FOR BABY. So, does that change when you change rooms? I don't care if you are on the roof. Maybe I should have said roof?? Would that clear things up for everyone, but this seems to very confusing for some of you. 

 

Apparently you didn't read your own quote.  As others have said... why don't you go eat your food in the bathroom??  Because it's unsanitary.  Why do you think they don't put the toilets in the middle of the restaurant?  Also, as someone else said... she went to the bathroom to feed her child and someone was still offended, so that's that. 
 
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October 9, 2005, 2:34 pm PDT

defensive again

Quote From: shellyee

I have discretion and manners, get some. 

  

For a mom, you are spending a lot more time on line worried about me than you seem to be spending with your children. You might want to check that.  

You really are defensive!!!!!!!
 
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October 9, 2005, 2:35 pm PDT

Take your own advice ...

Quote From: badtrip

Um please tell me why you think we think we are the center of the universe? And you don't think the same is true of you or Shelly or anyone who would try to tell us how to feed our children. Some people say, just cover up, others say, do it in a private lounge. Well which universe are we living in? Last time I checked it was everyone's universe. Bottle feeding babes outnumber breastfed babes in our country, though in the rest of the world it is the opposite. So maybe all the bottles are normal people are actually the center of our American universe. 

  

I have never thrown my boobie in anyone's face. That comparison is an exaggeration. The majority of the time I breastfeed I get nothing but compliments. The only person who has ever told me to cover up is a member of my own family, to which I said, what is your problem with it. I don't go around flashing my boob, I latch baby on and then pull shirt down. But yes occasionally he pulls off and shows my nipple to the world, or whoever happens to be looking, or whatever. Usually not even my husband notices. 

  

Everyone who is on the lookout for breastfeeding moms to get mad about, good luck. We're a huge minority. 

  

It's pathetic to try and segregate women who are making the healthy choice for their families from everyone else. You guys have a serious boobie complex. I think you all are the ones who need to change your attitudes. It's just nursing. Come on. 

  

And in case you haven't checked, all of your suggestions are not only silly and mean but also a violation of our civil rights. 

  

I think you should review your comments/responses you made to everyone, you'll realize that all of your suggestions are not only silly and mean but also a violation of our civil rights, among other things. 

  

That discriminatory comment you made to Shelley was really inappropriate. 

  

It's funny how you try to analyze other people in a very condenscending and arrogant way - criticizing women who bottle feed. 

  

Hey expert -- NOT ALL WOMEN ARE ABLE TO BREAST FEED, they try, but can't.  Are you better than they are? 

  

  

 
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October 9, 2005, 2:35 pm PDT

Just Wait until you hav children

Quote From: virgoe87

well feed them with your nipples then! the debate is doing it IN PUBLIC are you in public all day?? No I don't think so People the debate is about breastfeeding in public.  Try feeding them before you leave home. And to the lady that showed a picture of herself breastfeeding her baby in a hospital room.  You have gotten off the topic, the discussion is not about breastfeeding your baby, its about doing it where everyone can see it.

You obviously don't have kids.  Children, especially newborns eat every 1.5 to 2 hours.  Should mother be locked up until their children can go longer between feeding.  Your comment "Try feeding them before you leave home" shows that you truly needed to be educated on this matter before you entered in on this discussion. 

 
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October 9, 2005, 2:46 pm PDT

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Quote From: macdale

NO I am sorry i dont, but will tell you that if you work then you will be able to afford one!
Wow, how's that for an assumption?  Not everyone can afford a good quality breast pump, whether they work or not.  And they shouldn't have to, since the very best food for a baby is absolutely free!
 
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October 9, 2005, 2:49 pm PDT

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Quote From: virgoe87

well feed them with your nipples then! the debate is doing it IN PUBLIC are you in public all day?? No I don't think so People the debate is about breastfeeding in public.  Try feeding them before you leave home. And to the lady that showed a picture of herself breastfeeding her baby in a hospital room.  You have gotten off the topic, the discussion is not about breastfeeding your baby, its about doing it where everyone can see it.

lol, that's funny.  Babies get hungry at the most inconvenient times.  You can't always plan for it, no matter how hard you try. 

  

 
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October 9, 2005, 2:50 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

I don't see how it is approved and allowed to pull out a bottle from the diaper bag and feed a baby, and it is not ok to attach your child to your breast to feed??? who decides that one baby has more right than the other? why are mothers - that have chosen the best deal for their child, as far as health, bonding, and comfort, being punished? 

It is not said that because a mother breast feeds a child in public, she is "popping out her breast" or "exposing herself" ... some may do that .. and I don't think it is tasteful, but neither are "Britney Spears" style clothes .. and yet young gals do it ..  why do all breastfeeding moms need to be condemned and criticized and attacked?? the majority of breastfeeding moms are pros at it .. we can do it without you ever even seeing a thing, and often times without anyone even noticing we are doing it. 

I have breastfed my 3 1/2 for two years .. did it whenever, wherever .. and enjoyed every moment of it .. I am now breastfeeding my 16 month old, and again, enjoying every minute of it . I don't need to hide and feel shame or embarrassment .. it is as natural as breathing to me .. it is HIS right, as much as a bottle fed child, to eat when he is hungry ... and if anyone has a problem with it .. just like when I see a 15 year old walk with her underwear sticking out of her jeans, I look the other way ... if you consume yourself with too much judgment and "self given rights" you will always be unhappy .. because there will always be something that will bother you! 

 
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