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Dr. Phil and his guests strike up heated conversations as they debate the latest hot topics. Should women give up their right to breastfeed their babies in public so other people don't feel uncomfortable? Will passing out condoms in schools prevent unwanted pregnancies or just send the message to kids that it's OK to have sex? And, is it acceptable for others to discipline your kids if they see them acting out in public, or should they just mind their own business? Dr. Phil weighs in on these controversial subjects. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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October 9, 2005, 2:50 pm PDT

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Quote From: alinaeves

I gave birth to my second child with my fist one in the room.  It wasn't planned but my daughter wanted to be born very quickly.  I have helped a few friends give birth to their lovely children and seeing their vaginas didn't make me uncomfortable.  Open your mind!!
obviously if you HELPED a few of your friends give birth, you don't have a weak stomach like allot of people do. You are blessed to be so lucky. Also, it is your friends and not complete strangers. I wouldn't want to see a stranger give birth because I would puke, and this is known to be a beautiful thing. Yet I am forced to see a women expose herself infront of me ? she can cover up, no need for it. A breast is a breast and if it was only used for the purpose of feeding a baby I probally wouldn't have a problem with a women flashing me or my family but it is also a verrrrrry sexual body part. What I have a problem with is someone who has a problem with a woman who breastfeeds covered up. WHAT PROBLEM DOES THIS CAUSE TO YOU.... I also have a child and I breastfed her and yes it is a lovely thing. I have seen friends breastfeed and again it is lovely but I don't care for my child or husband to have to see YOUR exposed breast. Get a room if you want to be exposed or find other alternatives..
 
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October 9, 2005, 2:52 pm PDT

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I WISH this discussion could be SORTED and split up into the 3 separate subjects:  breastfeeding, condoms in school and discipline..... IT HAS GOTTEN SO LARGE......  It is difficult to keep track.
 
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October 9, 2005, 2:55 pm PDT

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Quote From: curly1_mks

I am a mother of a six month old son and I was unable to breastfeed my baby because I was on pain medicine for my back pain for a month and then I was on more medicine when I had to get my gallbladder removed. I really wanted to breastfeed and I believe it would have been a privilege to breastfeed in public because it shows that you love your child enough not to care what others think of how it looks. So I am angry at any woman who thinks breastfeeding in public was not ok.

Actually there are very FEW meds that a Mother cant take while breastfeeding. If your Dr. told you that you couldnt nurse because you were taking pain meds s/he was lying. Much easier for them to do than to actually get the real truth. 

  

Check out Dr. Hale's book, Breastfeeding and Mother's milk, it explains everything anyone would want to know about taking medication while nursing. EVERY Dr. should have this book instead of just telling a Mom that they cant breastfeed. Sorry yours did. 

 

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October 9, 2005, 2:57 pm PDT

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Quote From: mama6kids

I really don't understand why people are so offended with mother's feeding their babies in public.  I have seen women in the grocery store, in Church, on prime time television showing a heck of lot more of their bodies than any mother does feeding here baby. 

  

It all makes me wonder what ever happened to modesty.  It used to be a virtue.  Don't we believe in virtues anymore.  I remember when.......I know I'm from a different generation but I still believe that a woman should dress appropriatley when in public.  I am most offended in church.  Flip flops, halter tops, bare midriffs, shorts etc..  unfortunately  men aren't dressed anymore appropriately. 

Are you aware that God can ALWAYS see you- not just in church?  I am not saying that modesty is not a good thing but just pointing out that covering up to go to church doesn't do you any good if you are going out to the club afterwards with your boobs and butt hanging out.  Personally, I breastfeed in church and do not go out of my way to cover up.  However I also don't remove my shirt to breastfeed.  My baby covers my nipple and my shirt hangs over the rest.  I doubt most people even realize what I am doing. 

  

And I whole heartedly agree with you- many women who are NOT breastfeeding have much more of their breast exposed. 

 
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October 9, 2005, 2:59 pm PDT

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Quote From: shellyee

You breastfeed your child in public with your top on? Right through the fabric?? Is that something you can teach other mothers to do also??

Shellee 

  

this is one of the most ignorant remarks you made today, although I have not read thru all of todays remarks yet.  I found your post to be most agitating. 

  

Why people found you so offensive on the show was your apparent distaste period for the act of BF and you just seethed at the subject as if it was some unnatural act.  Believe me, the comparison you made to a BF baby and your BoyFriend eating off your naked breast doesn't even come close to being the same. 

  

I watched my taped version twice to see if you ever said why you dislike the act of BF in public even discretely and you never did.  You gave plenty of comparisons of BF to other distasteful sights but you NEVER said why this personally bothered you and just saying 'you don't like the sight of it'  is not a reason. 

  

gdh, Wisconsin 

 
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October 9, 2005, 2:59 pm PDT

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Quote From: heather175

I knew because my breast were engorged and yet nothing came out!!!! Do you not ware breast pads to prevent any leakage? I didn't have to because I did not have any leakage. NOTHING came out! So no I couldn't have even though I really wanted too. The point was is that you shouldn't assume to know everyone's reasons for choosing to bottle or breast feed. Again you assumed to know my reasons and were way off base. If you are able and choose to breast feed then by all means you should. It will benefit you and your child. But if you can't or choose not to breast feed then you and your child can still benefit. I held and bonded with my children during bottle feedings just as if I would have if I were breast feeding. I held them and sang to them just the same. That was a personal choice. Because I do realize that some parents make the choice to bottle feed for the wrong reasons.  

So please tell how you can say in one sentence that less then 1% of women can't breast feed end then say in another sentence that "There is probably no reason at all why you couldn't have breastfed. It's hard sometimes... but if you had really wanted to, you could have." Did it ever occur that just maybe I was part of where research has concluded that 1% figure from? 

You are the only one who knows what you went through trying to breastfeed. Fortunately I had no-problems at all breast feeding both of my children. Though I know mothers who tried, and couldn't though desperately wanted to, to the point where they became depressed. Thank goodness we live in a society where we have a choice. Breast feeders and bottle feeders judge each other way too much. We actually have options for our babies. Imagine a time when formula did not exist. My second child stopped nursing by the time he was 9 months...and went on a bottle. Where my first born never had an ounce of formula. 

  

Those of us who had no struggle with breastfeeding have no idea what it is like to walk in your shoes, and to deal with that struggle. It must have been very hard. 

  

Bottom line...don't beat yourself up over not being able to breastfeed....and don't listen to anyone who is judging you. Your bottle fed baby is no less loved than my breastfed babies. Thank goodness we have options. You sound like a loving caring mother. 

 

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October 9, 2005, 2:59 pm PDT

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Quote From: kstpmommy

  Absolutely women should be able to breastfeed when the need arises. I breastfed 4 kids 1 year give or take  and noone ever had a problem with it.  God made breasts for this purpose and not as sex objects. Should animals not feed their young? This is the only way.  I say "Thumbs down" on formula, it's not the BEST for babies , it stinks, it stainsand it is never 98.6' . Anyone who has a problem with breastfeeding has probably never done it or ever been a mother or they feel insecure about the size of their own breasts. Breastfeeding is the most NORMAL thing a mother can do
I completely agree with you that breastfeeding is best, normal, natural, and all of that.  But please lets not put down formula. For some mothers it is the only option because of health reasons.
 
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October 9, 2005, 3:03 pm PDT

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Quote From: treereach

 Geez, society should give you an A for aesthetic brainwashing.  SO obviously you've seen breasts on TV, but somehow nursing mothers have to cover up? And we are going to be made to feel bad because our bodies aren't 'perfect' , and that's why we can't give our babies good nutrition without having to go through hell?   MOST aren't TRYING to show their breast, don't you realize that? It's the ODD circumstance that causes anyone to be shown anything at all.  But even if it wasn't, who cares?  I guess you better not watch the discovery channel or anything. Might see some breasts that aren't perfect!

There is nothing more beautiful than a nursing breast.  Pamela Anderson and all the implants can't hold a candle to it!!!!!!!!!!
 
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October 9, 2005, 3:07 pm PDT

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Quote From: kwhitney

No problem! I had hoped that my reply would be seen as informative and sensitive to those who simply did not know why expression and bottlefeeding is second best to nursing directly from the breast. 

  

I agree that mothers should be discreet. I have yet to have a baby who will acceot a blanket over their head while nursing, but I found that by simply turning away while latching the baby on th the breast, then carefully positioning my clothing, exposure is minimal. 

  

--kellie 

And if one is dining with a friend or partner, simply have that person stand in front of you for the few moments it takes to get the baby properly situated. Once my children were nursing, you saw less of my breasts than you do in my summer blouses.  

  

I have to say that in a private home I was always careful to ask the host/hostess if they preferred me to leave the room when I nursed my child. Sometimes, particularly with an older host/hostess,  they would make a bedroom or sitting room available to me for nursing. That's fair, I think - their house, their rules.  

 

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October 9, 2005, 3:07 pm PDT

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Quote From: corymincey

I am a mother of 3 children, and have tried breastfeeding.  My youngest nursed the longest, only about 2 months as I was having trouble with it.  I had 2 breast infections in 2 weeks and really struggled with it.  For those that can, I commend you as this takes a LOT of patience and time.  About the issue breastfeeding in public, I was uncomfortable with it and normally was in our vehicle when the baby was hungry.  I don't think it's right to expose yourself to others.  There should be some descretion about it.  If you nurse in public, I think you should cover up.  There are a lot of children that shouldn't see a womans breast at such young ages.  This is my opinion.  I don't think anything is wrong with breastfeeding, I just think there should be modesty about it.  I mean- not everyone wants to see your breast.
And exactly what age is too young to see a breast?  Newborn babies sure see them a whole heck of a lot.  Is that, in your opinion, too young of an age to see a breast?  If someone doesn't want to see my breast they shouldn't look at it.  After all there are many things I don't want to see but- obese women in small tight clothes, dreadlocks, goths, 12 year olds making out at the mall, gay people kissing- but OH WELL!  This is AMERICA, land of the FREE.  People can do whatever they want so long as it is not harming anyone else and breastfeeding is the absolute opposite of harm.  It is the best thing you can do for your baby IMO. 
 
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