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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:34:18 pm
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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 10, 2005, 9:16 am PDT

good wife

 A good wife - who takes charge of her own health and happiness - when mama is happy.....
 
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October 10, 2005, 9:16 am PDT

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 Whatever.. when does it have to come to having the perfect household and the perfect children and being there for him when ever he wants some sex.
The only difference between a Mr. and Mrs. Is the intruding S.
Not all jobs pay enough for only one in the household to work while the other has the luxury of doing domestic household management by itself. Millions of us have to work and do our house chores and the husband is no different. He has a responsibility to keep the house up too and a responsibility to take care of the kids. Especially when we stagger shifts because we cannot afford to pay for daycare.
Taking care of the kids is a 24/7 job and the husband if he was the only one who has a job needs to come home watch the kids so mom can go out and relax.
He gets a lunch where he works..where is the moms lunch break at?
If the father complains that he just got off work.. I say when do I get off work?

We don't get off work, but it's a choice we make. 

  

We can go out in the workplace and decide on the perfect job, but we didn't. 

  

I'm not "perfect", but I work really hard at what I do.  I wouldn't expect anything less from my husband either. 

  

Diana (from the show) 

 
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October 10, 2005, 9:17 am PDT

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Maybe Bill J needs to soften up the edges a little bit, but I have to say this, and I'm not a dolt.  What are your kids doing while you're in school?  I think once you make the decision to have kids, you need (or a parent needs) to be home with them and continue your schooling when they're grown.  As far as child support is concerned, I think what he was trying to say is that you should do whatever you can to keep your marriages intact as to not have the need for child support.  Yes, I have traditional views, and so far it's worked out pretty great! 

 

 

That's great that your traditional views have worked out so well for you. As long as you are happy and fulfilled with that then that's really all that matters. However, not everyone shares your traditional views, not everyone is happy and fulfilled with staying at home. To me, the most important thing for a child is to have a mom who is happy and who feels self-worth and satisfaction in her life. Obviously, you get this from staying at home with your kids and that is wonderful. However, if I mom is unhappy staying at home then she won't be able to really care for her kids the way that they deserve. Plus, not everyone makes the decision to have kids. All three of my boys were unplanned, but I don't love them any less than any other mother. Right now my kids are in daycare from 8am-5pm because I work and go to school. This isn't my personal decision, but, I'm in the middle of a divorce from their father who chooses not to put their best interests first. Therefore, I have to do whatever I can to make sure they are provided for. It breaks my heart that my boys spend all day with someone else, however, this doesn't mean that their caregiver is 'raising' them, I am their mother, no one else, and they know that.  

  

As far as Bill's child support comment goes I don't think he was at all referring to the importance of keeping the family together. I think he was making a harsh judgement in order to upset the original poster. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 9:18 am PDT

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This topic reminds me of the old Family Living books you would get in high school trying to teach a girl what is expected from a woman as a mother and a wife. Wow, I thought that was a life sentence,and there was no way I was going there. I've been married for 20 yrs. Am I a good Wife? How about; am I a good partner . You bet I am, cuz I have a good partner. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 9:23 am PDT

Well I need my breaks for me time

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We don't get off work, but it's a choice we make. 

  

We can go out in the workplace and decide on the perfect job, but we didn't. 

  

I'm not "perfect", but I work really hard at what I do.  I wouldn't expect anything less from my husband either. 

  

Diana (from the show) 

 Maybe you can deal all day with the kids and the chores and all the dressing up for the husband when he comes home but I need a break. I deserve a break and I will be damned if some guy coming home from work is not going to give me one because he makes all the money. Money means nothing if your wife is unhappy and this wife is definitly unhappy with being stuck a housewife.
It maybe your lifelong dream but not everyone feels the same you do. That is not the dream of all woman to be domestic household managers. Some actually feel that they must to be a good wife. I say blah...
It is not how much I can do for my husband..it is how much we can do for each other.
 
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October 10, 2005, 9:26 am PDT

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That's great that your traditional views have worked out so well for you. As long as you are happy and fulfilled with that then that's really all that matters. However, not everyone shares your traditional views, not everyone is happy and fulfilled with staying at home. To me, the most important thing for a child is to have a mom who is happy and who feels self-worth and satisfaction in her life. Obviously, you get this from staying at home with your kids and that is wonderful. However, if I mom is unhappy staying at home then she won't be able to really care for her kids the way that they deserve. Plus, not everyone makes the decision to have kids. All three of my boys were unplanned, but I don't love them any less than any other mother. Right now my kids are in daycare from 8am-5pm because I work and go to school. This isn't my personal decision, but, I'm in the middle of a divorce from their father who chooses not to put their best interests first. Therefore, I have to do whatever I can to make sure they are provided for. It breaks my heart that my boys spend all day with someone else, however, this doesn't mean that their caregiver is 'raising' them, I am their mother, no one else, and they know that.  

  

As far as Bill's child support comment goes I don't think he was at all referring to the importance of keeping the family together. I think he was making a harsh judgement in order to upset the original poster. 

Right, and I was a single mom with 2 kids before I met my husband, and while I don't really advocate divorce, I was in a relationship that warranted it, too. 

  

I actually quit my job as a police dispatcher and took a job running a summer camp so I could take my kids to work with me.  I lived with my mom, so they had at least a realtive home with them when I had to work and couldn't take them.  

  

I believe in sacrificing for your kids, and I understand that there are some situations where you have to do what you have to do.  I would ignore Bill.  I think maybe that was made up to get women fuming.  I don't see him responding to any posts.... 

  

PS I also firmy believe there is a different midset between women who HAVE to work and women who CHOOSE to work. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 9:30 am PDT

suggestion for Kelly and Grant

 For Kelly, concentrate on being the type of wife and mother that YOU dream of being. Meet YOUR expectations, despite his criticisms.

And for Grant, maybe turn some of that abundance of energy toward your career goals. My father was overly controlling until his career began to take off. Then, when he was happier in his own job, he became less controlling of his wife and kids.

Best wishes to you both.
 
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October 10, 2005, 9:39 am PDT

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Why does a wife's role at home have to be "old-fashioned"?  If a wife/mom staying at home works best for a family, why should there be a stigma attached to that?  I'm a stay-at-home wife.  We don't have any kids, but we might someday.  I recently exited the workforce when my husband took a new job that paid a little more.  I take care of the house during the day.  I also have time to volunteer time at a local school.  When he gets home, we have dinner together and the whole evening to spend together, or doing whatever we want.  We also have weekends free to spend with each other, working on hobbies, traveling, etc. because we have FREE TIME!!!  That's something we never had when we were both working.  Yes, it's great if you can earn some extra money by having 2 incomes.  And it's a "modern" idea for women to go to college, have a career and also be a mom.  But what has been sacrificed just so we can hear women roar?  The more women want to roar about what they have accomplished, the more they leave their husband's and families in the dust.  Why can't a wmoan roar at home and show off her achievements with a beautiful home and great family life?  These are great accomplishments, and they serve the needs of the whole family, not just the woman's needs.  Calling this role old-fashioned is a discredit to the women who choose to fulfill it.
The intent of this message was not to discredit stay-at-home wives/moms.  It's a profession that should be more utilized.  The point is...why are we still harping on women?  Why are the men not asked to help raise the children, help with the household chores? We are meant to be a team.  Nothing is sacrificed with teamwork. If you feel the need to roar, then roar together.
 
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October 10, 2005, 9:42 am PDT

I love living in a very traditional lifestyle!

 I am a mother/wife of a blended family. We have A very traditional and Christian lifestyle. My God given "career" is to be a wife and mother.  I do have a very part-time "Job"  outside my home as a pre-school teacher. I do this when my children are at school and my husband is at work. That way i can do my "career" 100% when they are at home. My role as a mother and wife consists of  being the caretaker of my home. It may not always be a "pretty' job, but it's the most rewarding one any woman could ever have! I LOVE being there when my children get off the bus to get their snack ready and to hear about their day! I LOVE seeing my husbands face when he walks in the door after a stressfull day and knowing that his home and family is his safe place to rest. Nothing could make me happier.  As far as decision making goes...For the most part it is 50/50. My husband respects my input. But i know that in a really tough situation, if we can not come to an agreement, he is accountable for our family and he will make the final decision. I am not a doormat. But we believe that the husband is accountable for the family. And i give my husband the respect he deserves. It may not work for everyone, but it is the way that works for us! And in a generation that has a 57% divorce rate...if you find a way that works, you better hang onto it!
 
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October 10, 2005, 9:48 am PDT

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Right, and I was a single mom with 2 kids before I met my husband, and while I don't really advocate divorce, I was in a relationship that warranted it, too. 

  

I actually quit my job as a police dispatcher and took a job running a summer camp so I could take my kids to work with me.  I lived with my mom, so they had at least a realtive home with them when I had to work and couldn't take them.  

  

I believe in sacrificing for your kids, and I understand that there are some situations where you have to do what you have to do.  I would ignore Bill.  I think maybe that was made up to get women fuming.  I don't see him responding to any posts.... 

  

PS I also firmy believe there is a different midset between women who HAVE to work and women who CHOOSE to work. 

I'm thinking the same thing about Bill. I put in my reply to him that I thought was just posting to upset people. I hope everyone stops replying to this guy since it's obvious that all he wants is attention. 

  

The fact that you were able to find a wonderful husband after your first marriage is a great encouragement to me.  

  

I wish I could leave my boys with a relative, but my mom still works and my ex-inlaws live two-hours away :o(  However, I do know their preschool/daycare teachers very well and have known them for a long time, so that helps out a lot. I couldn't imagine just dropping them off with someone who I didn't know at all.  

  

I guess I could conisder moving back in with my parents so that I could cut back on expenses, but, then  I would go completly insane and end up being institutionalized receiving shock treatments, so, that might not be great for my kids LOL ;o) My mother drives me mad....lol 

 
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