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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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December 28, 2005, 1:49 pm PST

Respect and Trust

After a 15 year marriage to a guy like Grant I can say...unless Grant really has an eye opener about himself he will loose his family. He is the one with all the insecurities, he has to have control to feel better about himself. He needs to focus on why he feels that way he does...not on Kelly. His picking Kelly apart will not only escalate but will also focus in on their children. He will always find fault with those close to him, unless HE sees HE is the one who really and truly needs help. After our divorce 13 years ago I have watched my ex-husband pick at all of our children to the point that now they have NO respect for him. Our children do not trust telling him about their feelings, needs or dreams.
 
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December 28, 2005, 1:49 pm PST

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dr. phil im married to my wife now for 6 years we have been togeather a total of 7 years now and i love her to death. the couple you are talking to on todays show , i feel for the wife 

 i realy dont think the husband should be doing what he is doing to her for the smiple fact that he should get off his ass and help with things around the house not have her do it all a marrage is 2 people not 1. and if he was like that since thay got married  then she should have told him i will not marry you because she dose not deserve to be treated like that there are so many men out there that would love to have a wife to come home too and be waited on hand and foot  and if she is a stay at home wife with the kids then he should do a lot more then his shair let him make dinner or clean up the house or what ever . dont grade the meals that she makes he should be dam happy she is cooking for him at all he is wrong for what he is doing to her. thanks  

 
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December 28, 2005, 1:50 pm PST

12/28 Wifestyles

  

     I have been married for 15 years and I learned early, you have to be your own person, love yourself first, then you will be able to share yoursefl with your spouse. Oh, my..you are saying this right now! 

 
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December 28, 2005, 1:51 pm PST

Beautiful Red Head

What a lovely, attractive woman, Kelly!.  Wonder why she settled for him?  He needs help with his critical spirit.  If he wakes up I would think they could have a very good marriage.  I hope they get professional help. 

 
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December 28, 2005, 1:51 pm PST

Training

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I am amazed at this woman! Her husband is asking for so little. I am a stay at home mother of 2 children and my home is very clean and VERY organized. I couldn't stand to live in the mess this woman is living in. I can't believe her husband is being so nice about his requests. To be clean and organized is part of her job! This is something he is willing to help her with and she is just trying to find something to argue over. I would love for my husband to sit down and help me plan meals by going through cookbooks. It would be just wonderful. If her husband did his job as poorly as she is doing hers, he would be fired.
My mother and I were talking just today about the differences in personalities in children growing up- growing up to be adults.  I was a hopeless slob growing up.  I was just never good at being clean. There were more important things to do. Cleaning is important yes I agree with you.  But it has taken me a tremendous amount of person training and I still don't like the job. I am a stay at home mom with three children under 7. I would say that being a housewife is not my best quality.  My husband would tell you I try my very hardest and am improving with time but it has taken 5 years so far.  I think it is unfair to compare yourself to her. You don't know her training. I didn't have very good training either only criticism.  Criticism doesn't teach anyone anything- it only degrades.  It didn't look like he knew how to do her job very well either.  If he really wanted to help her he would hire someone who is patient to teach her how to do her job.  We don't just go into a career without training- we get trained first.  It is such and unfair stereotype to say that a woman should know how to be the best housecleaner, cook, caregiver, etc.  To you it  may be little to do this job but to me it is the biggest challenge I have ever taken on.
 
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December 28, 2005, 1:52 pm PST

Wife vs. a Life

When I got married, I expected a life full of love, happiness and togetherness.  Before we were married, we did things together as well as apart, but we were happy.  Now I've lost most of our friends (and most of his family) because after we were married, it was 'us' and 'he' didn't want to be bothered socializing with friends or family.  He did, however, continue to socialize with his friends at the local bars. 

I work full-time in a stressful environment; my work is tedious and sometimes mind boggling.  He works on construction and always says how 'hard' he worked........not (to which he admits).  I usually come home mentally exhausted; on occasion, he will come home physically exhausted.  He expects me to listen to how his day went, but turns away when I want to tell him about mine. 

I am expected to make a home cooked meal and clean up after my day's work.  (When he's layed off, I get the Campbell's life.) 

When the husband and the kids have no clean clothes, it's 'mom' to the laundry.  On occasion, they will put a load in the washer, but it could sit for days before I hang them up.  To make matters worse when it comes to laundry, the dogs go into the laundry room and 'retrieve' clothing and bring it into other parts of the house.  Needless to say, I have to go from room to room to collect pieces of laundry because they can't put the laundry in the baskets designated for it.  The kids will keep their dirty clothes in a pile in their bedrooms and after 2 weeks or so, dump all the clothes and expect them to be washed.  Right!!  Did I mention that I have to wash 'clean' clothes, too, because they take something out to wear and decide that's not what they want, so it goes in the 'dirty' pile on the floor?  Never an offer to fold the clothes and put them away. 

Nobody picks up after themselves.  A spilled drink here, dirty dishes there, dirty clothes everywhere.  My house looks like it hasn't been cleaned in years, but I just can't do it all by myself.  I only pick up after myself anymore.  I'm hoping for the Health Dept to say it's uninhabitable. 

For years, my husband treated me like I was a slave.  When he demanded something, I was expected to do it.  I did this for years to keep the peace, but I had enough.  More than 10 years ago, I made a New Years resolution.........every time he yelled at me or treated me like one of the kids, he'd go a week without sex.  I got tired of tracking the weeks, so now he's cut off completely.  I haven't had sex in over 10 years and can honestly say I don't miss it because when you walk into my home, there is absolutely nothing there to 'turn you on'. 

My philosophy was to treat people the way they treat you.  I have trained myself to ask them just once to do something.  If I have to say it again, I snap at them.  It's what they would do to me.  Lying is a big problem with them, too.  I have learned to lie, too.  I lie to them over the simplest thing, like 'are you working tomorrow'; I tell them 'no' even though I am working. 

In the last 5 years, my husband went on vacation with us just once.  He had better things to do than to spend some time with his family.  I feel like I've raised my kids to the best of my ability as a single parent.  The only time he was there was when they got themselves into trouble.  And then all he did was scream and beat them.  It was always my fault. 

I have said time and time again that I'm not going to live like this anymore.  I want my own place so bad that I could taste it.  It wouldn't take much more for me to pack my bags. 

Would I do it again?  NEVER!!  I could never trust any man to treat me the way I should be treated.  I rather have a life than be a wife (and mother). 

So much for love, happiness and togetherness. 

 
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December 28, 2005, 1:52 pm PST

Men work all day

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Maybe if men weren't the first to let themselves go, women would want to be touched by them more. You can't gain fifty pounds for no reason (VERY different from gaining to have children) and expect your wife to want you in the same way as before. 

  

"Jim," I suggest you take your backwards thinking elsewhere, you're only going to stir up a lot of drama and anger here. 

  

I might not be happily married, but I'm more then capable of being happy. If that means I have to be by myself with no man, so be it. I'd rather live a celibate life when remain chained to a man who thinks exactly like you. 

We guys work all day long to pay off the four credit lines you ran up.  Remember that.  As for myself, I work out five days a week. 

 
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December 28, 2005, 1:52 pm PST

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Mr Bill Jinkens, 

  

   How many times have you stayed at home with  kids?  And when you did....did u put on a nice suit and make some muffins for the kids??  Or was it just a bowl of cereal???  What about the mom's that are married and working too...are they supposed to come home from work just like their husbands do and cook and clean or should it be a two way street???  If mom's work and came home and sat their butts on the couch waiting for Monday Night Football to start there sure would be some hungry people in that family.   

  

And the whole "keeping the kids from the husband for the sole purpose of collecting child support"  I hate to break it to you but there isn't a whole lot of men out there willing to take responsibility for their kids so they should have to pay child support.  Just for your info...i don't watch TV and surf the net all day..and I am a SAHM (Stay at home mom) just incase you couldn't figure it out.  There is more to staying home than baking muffins and caring for kids.  I do laundry, straighten up the house, wash dishes, fix lunches, pay bills, give baths, and make sure that something is out to be made for dinner.  So until you walk the shoes of a SAHM..I advise you keep the baking muffins remarks to yourself.....U want muffins....learn how to bake them yourself.   

  

MAN I HOPE YOU AREN"T MARRIED 

"What about the mom's that are married and working too...are they supposed to come home from work just like their husbands do and cook and clean or should it be a two way street???  If mom's work and came home and sat their butts on the couch waiting for Monday Night Football to start there sure would be some hungry people in that family." 

  

I was this person...we both had to be at work at 7:30 both got off at 5:00. He came home and played golf online every night till 9:00. I came home, fixed supper, cleaned the kitchen, gave the kids baths, got them off to bed and by then it was 9:00 and I was expected to go to bed and have sex. Clean the house on the weekends, while he watched Nascar, football...whatever was on. We got this straightened out and once he realized how misreable I was he started doing a lot more. Now I am not working, So It is not as big of a deal to me to do a little more around the house, I fix his lunch for the next day, little things like that...but it is more b/c I feel bad b/c I am not working and contributing financially.  

  

It used to make me really angry, he would say it was b/c I was a secretary and he had to work outside and he made more thats why he got to come home and do nothing...so I started making every night a fend for yoursef night till he got the point. 

 
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December 28, 2005, 1:54 pm PST

"Being a wife is not being their mother!"

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I am surprised that nobody mentioned the fact that being a great wife and not being a part of financial security issues ( by either participating in money managing or by working at least part time) can be very dangerous. I was a stay at home mom and wife for fifteen some years. My ex-husband was not good with finances and I was kept from ever knowing what our real financial situation was. Until I filed for divorce! So now, I have three kids to feed, an ex that does not pay child support and no real work history to fall back upon. I am getting my masters degree hoping it will help me find a better job. This is a very scary situation to find yourself in after years of seeing yourself as a good wife and having that be your identity. Please make sure you are privy to all financial decisions and make certain you have a back-up plan if something would ever happen to your spouse. I think being a great wife is a worthy thing, but not if you are married to a person that is jeapordizing your family financial security.
I have known and dated my husband since the age of 13, we have been married for 11 years and have 4 children. There ages a 12, 11, 9 and 4. The whole thing with our partnership and marriage is very secure, yet I did work out of the home for many years and 6 years ago my mother n law was diagnosed with breast cancer. She has a day care home in which I quit my job to watch the children for her. It just seemed easier at the time that I start my own day care home. This is not the easiest job on earth by far. I think that sometimes people take it for granted all of the love and care you give to the children and the time you spend with them through out the day when they are absent. I do the laundry, I do the meals, I make the lunches, I make the beds, I help with homework, and what do I get in return???? Sometimes after a hard day when I want to just sit down knowing I can't because I have a list of jobs to do after I get done with my 12 hour day of work. My husband says I need to give them ( the children) more responsibility. I have tried, and yet they do try and clean their rooms, and try and remember their school work and try and remember to brush their teeth. It seems as though it's a constant reminder.............."do this, do that"  They say that I nag and so I think that the only easy resolution is to do it myself. This show today made me laugh................."if I did not have a 60 hour work week, I would give my 110% I do give a 100% of myself to make sure that everyone is happy. What is she thinking?? Now a days every family needs to have 2 incomes to make it work. I would be every man's dream...........I think and I only hope that my husband appreciates me more than he shows along with my children!
 
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December 28, 2005, 1:55 pm PST

You can't be happy without

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Even the Bible says that it's better for a guy to live on the edge of a roof than with a quallelsome wife.

You can't be happy without us.  It's impossible.  You may THINK you're happy....until the boat has left the dock and there you are alone, with no one to share your final years with.  Only then will you realize that we are the source of your happiness. 

 
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