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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 10, 2005, 12:09 pm PDT

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   I am in no way trying to start an arguement with anyone.  I was just a little bothered by one of your remarks.  "IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man."  I do firmly believe this because it is in the BIBLE.  And I wholeheartedly believe the bible.  With that said, I am in no way a doormat to my husband.  I choose to do all the laundry and cook all the meals but that is because I stay home with our kids.  It's the least I can do for him.  But when he gets home if I haven't felt well or had a rough day and dinner isn't made there is definitely no fights.  He is more than willing to come home and make dinner or at least help with making dinner.  He understands that just because I am a "Stay at home MOM" doesn't mean I sit around all day and watch soaps or the DR Phil show.  I actually record the show and watch it later in the night while I am in bed.  And just another note...Woman actually means.."from man" so yes dear you were made from man.  God created Eve WITH Adam's rib.  If you weren't made from man what were you made from??  Just a question.  I am happy that you are married to a caring individual and that he is willing to help.  But just because I believe what you don't doesn't mean that My husband isn't willing to help.  He is more than willing.  We share all the household cleaning equally.  Yes during the week I keep the house neat and clutter free, but come the weekend we are BOTH cleaning the house.  I wish you the best of luck in your marriage and GOD BLESS 

You know exactly what you're saying! It is great to see someone standing up for the Bible, and demonstrating its truth. I'm a recent college graduate, and newlywed. I'm still learning about being a good wife, as my husband is learning to be a good husband, but we're learning together, working together and hoping to start a family together soon. In college I took a class about Christian marriage, and we spent an entire unit on the Genesis passage describing the creation of man and woman. Woman was created from man, but taken from his side so as to be a helper, not subordinate or the sole leader.  

When we do have a family, I probably will stay home. However, this is only because it works out better for us financially -- if he made less money than I did, he would stay home and take care of the kids and the house. As I make less than he does, that responsibility is going to be mine.  

 

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October 10, 2005, 12:18 pm PDT

Kelly looks beaten down

Grant- 

This is for you.  I hope you read this.  Help her!  Raising those babies and taking care of you is like 2 full time jobs.  She is beautiful and loving.  You made vows.  You need to make her feel she is beautiful and loving.  Take her by the hand.  Sit her down with a bottle of wine....and let her wathc her while you do the dishes, the laundry and make her laugh while you are doing it.  That is foreplay. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 12:19 pm PDT

What my life experience has taught me

I never wanted to get married or have children.  I learned by watching my mother and grandmother that 'to have it all' meant to sacrifice much.  I went to 27 schools between Kindergarten and twelfth grade.  I was exposed to many different opinions, mindsets, and community norms.  All of which I am sure had much influence over my young impressionable mind.  By the time I was an adult I had decided that marriage and children were not for me.  Now a decade later I am married and I have an 8 year old son.   

Before I married I already had a son and a full-time career.  Being a mom proved to be as difficult as I had imagined it would be but I did love my son very much.  I can now admit though that my focus was on my career.  I advanced rapidly and more than doubled my starting salary in less than 2 years.  Then I met my husband.  He had a career of his own as well.  We struggled when we first moved in together but we found common ground.  We do not nitpick over who did what or who is doing more or less than the other, nor do we squabble about how something got done.  Our Motto:  If YOU want it done a certain way, then YOU do it - otherwise simply be happy that it got done. 

Several years after we got together I lost my job.  In my reality I lost more than a job.  I lost my identity and my self worth.  I was very depressed and literally had to fight with myself out loud to get out of bed each day.  As the weeks turned into months I noticed I was more active in my son's life.  I volunteered at school, helped with little league and participated in scouts.  I was happier than I had been in years and people noticed.  The problem was that I didn't notice it.  I hadn't realized how much stress I was under working and how much that stress took away from life.  Instead I felt guilty.  The longer I was off work and adjusted to my new life the more guilt I felt for not working.  I felt like I was letting down the whole woman's movement and the women who had fought to make it happen.  After all, I believed in most of the movement and in equal rights for all.   

One day my husband asked me what it would take to make me happy.  I told him I wanted to be successful.  His response: "Successful at what specifically?  Because you are succesful at being a mother, a wife, a daughter, a sister, and a friend.  All that is lacking is successful employment.  If only one fraction of your life, and a small fraction at that,  is incomplete then why does it have such a total impact your whole attitude?"   WOW.  I hadn't thought of it that way.  In essence he prioritized my roles for me at that moment.  

Now I define success as equipping my son with the tools that he needs to be successful in life and in giving and receiving love from husband, family, and friends.  My husband works more hours than he used to, I do more housework than I care to but at least ALL of us are happy instead of just me.  So I guess what I'm saying is that even though we don't split things 50/50 we're both equal and that makes us balanced.  And that's what it is all about isn't it?  Finding a balance that satisfies the household and not just one person.    

 
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October 10, 2005, 12:20 pm PDT

Hello! any one there.

Bureaucracy, no matter where you go or what you are involved in you got it. I am a disabled stay at home dad of 5 yrs now with 4 children. I am now a house husband and my wife works full-time pretty much38 48 hrs a week.  

I am siding with the women on this one, IT IS NOT EASY. This is a full-time job with many perks throughout the marriage and alot of vacation time. Really depends on what you want from a relationship and what you are willing to give up. When you decide on a comittment with someone it is a long term investment, sometimes the stock goes up and othertimes it goes down. This is my 2 cents. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 12:23 pm PDT

To Diana

Sorry, but she reminded me of the classic 50's housewife.  While that perception of a wife is fine to her, it isn't to me.  I work 2 jobs, a husband, and 2 children.  Granted, I do most of the housework; but, my hubby still helps around the house.  Women every where fought for equality from being just a "wife" and "mother".  She's setting back women's liberation back 50 years.  This is 2005; it just sounds to me like you're brainwashed. 
 
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October 10, 2005, 12:29 pm PDT

Working 9 to 5

I am a stay-at-home mom with 7 children (ages 13 to 8 mos.) and the way I figure it, I put in about (3) 8 hour days each day.  The kids and I get up at 6:00am (weekdays)...I get them ready for school, fix breakfast, sign notebooks, papers, etc., fix lunches, and make sure clothes are clean and teeth are brushed.  The 4 older ones leave by 7:15am.  I then start the housework.  I unload/load the dishwasher, vacuum, make beds, tidy rooms, do a few loads of laundry.  By then the 3 younger ones are awake, and I start over.  On Tues. and Thurs. 2 of the 3 younger ones go to mother's day out so that's another 2 baths, another 2 lunches and 2 more round trips into town.  I consider that my first 8 hour day! 

  

My kids get home from school around 4:30.  I begin my 2nd day...I check backpacks, help with homework, get dinner started.  We try to eat around 6pm (wishful thinking!!).  After dinner, it's cleanup time which means loading dishwasher again!  Add in the occasional girl scout meeting, church activities, sports, etc.  That's the end of day 2. 

  

Day 3 starts close to bedtime...make sure showers are taken, teeth are brushed, backpacks are packed, clothes are laid out, pick up mess around the house...prepare bottles for nighttime snacking, good night kisses then lights out for them.  End of day 3 and it's only 8:30!  There's always overtime though.  The 2 or 3 times a night the baby wakes up wanting to snack, or, just visit!  The endless times I wake up just to check to make sure everything's ok.  Making sure my 3 year old has actually fallen asleep in his bed and not underneath the door after countless hours of screaming "mommy" at the top of his obviously good lungs. 

  

Thankfully, though, I have a husband who is not afraid to change a diaper, give a bath or two, help with dinner, clean-up etc.  I figure we both work our butts off all day everyday and there's no point in labelling jobs "his or hers".  The most romantic thing I think my husband can do is help out with the children or housework!  I don't understand how men or women in this day and age can honestly believe in the old stereotypical duties.  I consider my husband the head of our household and I respect his position, but, he in return respects me and what I do.   

  

I have worked outside the home both before and after having children and so I know I work just as hard if not harder staying at home as I did in the office and I would never consider letting my husband off the hook with responsibility to his home and family because it's "woman's work" or because he'd been working all day.   We're a family and we all work together. 

  

 
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October 10, 2005, 12:29 pm PDT

To Men Who Want Perfect Wives:

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Looks like you have some issues within inside your self,  

  

Do you go to your husbands work and help him during the day? I think not. If it wasn't for your husband you would be taking care of your kids and working because I'm sure your the type of woman that would keep your kids from you husband for the sole purpose of receiving child support. So maybe you should get off your butt and stop watching TV and surfing the NET all day.  

  

If you are such a caring and loving person you would be able to look past all of this and accept your position in life. Remember your the Mommy, NOT the Daddy. So put on a nice dress and cook some muffins for your kids and you husband, and have them ready for him the next time he walks in the door. 

  

Bill Jinkens 

Bill, you have a bit of a point. 

  

There was a short period (only 1 month) when my husband was out of work and I went to work (temp agency) while he looked for a new position.  I found that after working all day, I would come home and my husband-who was worn out from watching the kids all day- would want me to take the kids so he could relax. 

  

I did.  And I discovered that my husband is just as exhausted at the end of a day as I am when he gets home.   

  

We discovered an absolutely wonderful new appreciation for each other's efforts.  I have a whole new appreciation for what he does for us day in and day out, and he helps a lot more around the house.  We go out of our way to let each other know how much they are loved and respected. 

  

We now have an agreement that NEITHER of us get to rest until the kids are in bed (7:00 pm) and we ake turns giving each other a night a week out away from the house. 

  

I would gladly treat my husband like a king... BECAUSE he treats me like a queen. 

Let me say this again...  HE TREATS ME LIKE A QUEEN- NOT A SERVANT.  And THAT'S WHY he gets' his muffins baked, his feet rubbed, and sex whenever he feels like it. 

 

Lee Ann  

 
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October 10, 2005, 12:31 pm PDT

well said

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Bureaucracy, no matter where you go or what you are involved in you got it. I am a disabled stay at home dad of 5 yrs now with 4 children. I am now a house husband and my wife works full-time pretty much38 48 hrs a week.  

I am siding with the women on this one, IT IS NOT EASY. This is a full-time job with many perks throughout the marriage and alot of vacation time. Really depends on what you want from a relationship and what you are willing to give up. When you decide on a comittment with someone it is a long term investment, sometimes the stock goes up and othertimes it goes down. This is my 2 cents. 

Thanks for your post.  I wish more men could have the opportunity to step into our shoes once in a while.  Staying at home is a tough job, but very rewarding!!!!  Your kids are very lucky!
 
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October 10, 2005, 12:32 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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OK, Ladies-you have your choices and you're making them.  The sad thing is that the brave women before us fought tirelessly for you to have that choice.  They fought for your right to vote, for your right to have an education, for your equal rights under the law, for protection against discrimination and sexual harrassment.  And what do you do??? Revert back to the only choice that our grandmothers had?  What a waste!   

Hopefully one day our gender will be strong enough to enjoy the fruits of the strong women who went before us. 

Should be easy for most of you guys...you're used to living off the fruits of other people's labors, aren't you??? 

They fought for the CHOICE.  Just because everyone isn't choosing to work doesn't mean they are a waste. 
 
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October 10, 2005, 12:32 pm PDT

He's a user

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I read the things that everyone was saying and I must say it has added to the growing sadness in my life.  I feel trapped and alone in my marriage.  I have no one to talk to about this so I hope that someone could add something to help me out.  My husband works full time (midnight shift) then attends college full time (finishing a degree he started 10 years ago).  Three months ago I gave birth to a wonderful baby boy that is the light of my life.  My husband does NOTHING to help me.  He never has.  He kept making excuses.  First it was my job to take care of him, the house, the land, the dogs and the bills because I was a college student and had nothing else to worry about.  Then he couldn't help once I got a job because I worked part time.  Then when I got a full time job he said that he made more money so I could make up for the difference by taking care of everything.  Now I am a housewife.  Now it is my job to do everything.  He has no idea what I do all day.  The house is never clean enough for him.  I do the best I can considering he is a slob.  Plus, since he works nights, he sleeps most of the day.  I have to be as quiet as a mouse and keep the baby quiet so he can sleep.  I am at his beck and call in bed.  I have to put the baby down and have sex whenever he sees fit.  I feel dead inside.  I haven't been kissed in a year.  He never says I love you or even hugs me.  I feel like a servant.  If I wouldn't have had my son I probably would have left him but I am afraid to.  My husband isn't the nicest man ever.  Does anyone know what I can do?  I really do try to have all my chores done.  Is there a way I can reorganize myself?  I guess I am just fooling myself.  If I bust my butt to get everything done and perfect (which we all know it never will be) it will not cause him to love me.  Love, compassion, understanding.  These words are a mystery to my husband.  Will I ever be happy?

You are being emotionally abused. I'm sure he does have an idea of what you do all day but simply doesn't care. This is all about HIM. You only count in how you can provide him with what he wants, how he wants, when he wants. It will never get better for you because, frankly,  he's got his life arranged the way he wants and sees no reason to change anything, especially anything that might require him to think of someone other than himself. No matter how hard you try, he will never be satisfied; you will always be too stupid, too lazy, too something or other negative to live without him - or so he thinks and probably has said. 

  

You are college educated, and have been employed so you have skills with which you can support yourself and your child. I'd suggest couple counseling but, as I said, he feels HE'S not the one with the problem. If you can find free or low cost counseling for yourself, go. Trade babysitting with a neighbor so you can go. And start planning a future without him because he will never change. If you're uncertain about this,  imagine spending the next thirty years living like this. Imagine the effect on your child.  

  

If you decide that this is not the life you want to live, quietly begin to gather your joint financial information, make sure you have credit in your own name, money of your own tucked away, and an emergency suitcase packed in case you have to flee. Have copies of important documents (birth, marriage certificates, passports, mortgage, bank statements, car registration, important phone numbers and addresses, will and health care proxy, powers of attorney etc.) in the suitcase, and hide these where only you can find it, or leave it with a trusted friend. Pack spare clothes etc. for the baby as well (and his records.) Know the local women's shelter number, and/or the numbers of a family member or close friend you can rely on. Confide in the baby's pediatrician. And when you have all your ducks in a row, then you can decide if you want to continue in this life. And if you are threatened, don't wait - leave, preferably when he's not home to try and stop you. He does not own you. 

  

You may feel very alone right now, but know that you are not. Many women have faced this same situation and not only survived but gone on to thrive in a new life. 

 
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