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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:34:18 pm
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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 10, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

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I read the things that everyone was saying and I must say it has added to the growing sadness in my life.  I feel trapped and alone in my marriage.  I have no one to talk to about this so I hope that someone could add something to help me out.  My husband works full time (midnight shift) then attends college full time (finishing a degree he started 10 years ago).  Three months ago I gave birth to a wonderful baby boy that is the light of my life.  My husband does NOTHING to help me.  He never has.  He kept making excuses.  First it was my job to take care of him, the house, the land, the dogs and the bills because I was a college student and had nothing else to worry about.  Then he couldn't help once I got a job because I worked part time.  Then when I got a full time job he said that he made more money so I could make up for the difference by taking care of everything.  Now I am a housewife.  Now it is my job to do everything.  He has no idea what I do all day.  The house is never clean enough for him.  I do the best I can considering he is a slob.  Plus, since he works nights, he sleeps most of the day.  I have to be as quiet as a mouse and keep the baby quiet so he can sleep.  I am at his beck and call in bed.  I have to put the baby down and have sex whenever he sees fit.  I feel dead inside.  I haven't been kissed in a year.  He never says I love you or even hugs me.  I feel like a servant.  If I wouldn't have had my son I probably would have left him but I am afraid to.  My husband isn't the nicest man ever.  Does anyone know what I can do?  I really do try to have all my chores done.  Is there a way I can reorganize myself?  I guess I am just fooling myself.  If I bust my butt to get everything done and perfect (which we all know it never will be) it will not cause him to love me.  Love, compassion, understanding.  These words are a mystery to my husband.  Will I ever be happy?

I read your plight. 

I'm absolutely not qualified to counsel you. 

I will pray for you. 

I will suggest that you consider some things. 

  

"Where does happiness come from?  From your marriage or from within yourself? 

"Do you not have any choices?" 

"Do you insist on something which isn't there?" 

"Are you in some way contributing to your plight, maybe?" 

"Who are you?" 

  

I'm not saying that I feel sorry for you, however my heart hurts for you.  I pray you will find the answers for yourself.  Find the answers within yourself.  Which will bring peace to you and your situation. 

  

  

 
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October 10, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

Grant is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!

I'm actually really mad about this Grant character from the show today... I have to say that I'm young so I don't know much about marriage, but it's fact that I know more than Grant. I totally empathesize for Kelly... a wife should be a treasure, a gift from God like Robyn said!!!! A relationship/marriage is about 2 people coming together and sharing their lives and COMPROMISE. I was really shocked when I saw how Grant treats Kelly. Anyway good luck to the both of you, I hope this has opened Grant's eyes and things will change.
 
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October 10, 2005, 1:00 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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Looks like you have some issues within inside your self,  

  

Do you go to your husbands work and help him during the day? I think not. If it wasn't for your husband you would be taking care of your kids and working because I'm sure your the type of woman that would keep your kids from you husband for the sole purpose of receiving child support. So maybe you should get off your butt and stop watching TV and surfing the NET all day.  

  

If you are such a caring and loving person you would be able to look past all of this and accept your position in life. Remember your the Mommy, NOT the Daddy. So put on a nice dress and cook some muffins for your kids and you husband, and have them ready for him the next time he walks in the door. 

  

Bill Jinkens 

Hey, Bill...LOL. I read your letter and just cracked up.
I love watching TV all day and surfing the net. I'm wondering what a nice guy like you would suggest I wear when hubby gets home?  

I'd personally LOVE to go back to work full time and get my PhD--but one of us had to sacrifice life in the working lane to take care of stuff around here. I make great money working part time. I'd give my right arm to have HIM stay at home and me get the heck out of here every day. 

You sound like a darn good catch, btw. What's YOUR wife do? (or wife number one, two or three?) I sure hope if you're the one at home, you put on your dress and get the drinks ready at 6:00. 

OMG. Can't wait to read you on these boards everyday. 

I can tell we're going to be GREAT friends :)  

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:02 pm PDT

stick with it!

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I have been in a marriage for 32 years with a husband who made me feel like this women...I wish I had had the courage to leave the marriage...my life would have been so different and I would have the contentment and love that most wives feel.  I take the blame...but she will never change him.  leave now...or be sad the rest of your life.

I'm not just being cliche, you can still be happy in your marriage!  It's not too late, SERIOUSLY.  I don't think people should be giving up on their marriages so easily! I'm not saying it's easy to be so unhappy, but I'm saying that with a lot of work, attitudes and behaviors CAN change.  If you talk to your husband and he's not willing to be selfless and care about  your feelings, then yes, get out. 

  

But Kelly, don't leave.  You and your husband can definitely work through this. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:03 pm PDT

Absolutely

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:) I agree 

  

Just because they want to fulfil traditional female roles, doesn't mean they're bad people or a waste. 

  

  

We women have a right to chose who we want to be.  If some women chose to be wives like on the show, feel free.  

That is exactly right...but when your worth is based on how good a meal you can make or how clean you get a shirt???   

Sorry...but that is a waste unless you're getting paid to do it! 

Use your brain...not your broom 

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:04 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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It's so sad that this world is covered with the disgusting plague of pornography-- it's images and ideals.  So many people wonder why husbands wish their wives would wear sexy lingerie, or get boob jobs-- because this is what we see all over TV and movies, and we're told that that is what being sexy is. Not only is pornography wrong, but it plants unrealistic ideas in the heads of people who view it.  It makes men and women both believe that sex is supposed to be some incredible, erotic experience.  Sex is about love and caring, and the satisfaction it provides is directly related to how well the relationship is going outside of the bedroom.  If a husband is critical, his wife is less likely to desire to be physically close to her husband.  If a wife feels loved and appreciated, she might be more excited to surprise her husband with a little somethin'-somethin' when he comes home!  Marriage should be SELFLESS. 

  

And Grant-- you are a great guy. You really seem like you have a good heart, and that you didn't really realize how the things you're saying are making your wife feel.  Please act on the things that you are learning.  Love your wife and cherish her, and you'll get the same in return.  Your attitude CAN change, and you can feel that your marriage is the best in the world! 

You blame PORN..LOL, I'll blame his mother and father for raising such an idiot. I think his one brain cell is blown out and Kelly? Sorry, but marrying this guy was one mistake...then having THREE kids with him?
Oy. 

  

Karen 

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:04 pm PDT

Wifestyles

Being a stay at home mom or a mom that works 40 plus hours a week and comes home to be a full time mom and wife, is a very rewarding yet tiring job. Unfortunately in today's society if you choose this profession of being a "full time" mom over anything else you are considered lazy or have loads of time on your hands. That is so not true- I had the opportunity to quick my 40 plus hour a week job a year ago to stay home with my two boys 4 and 14 (3 and 13 at the time) and let me tell you I have never worked so hard in my life!!!! There are a lot of men that have very unrealistic expectations of their wives and no expectations of themselves. The issue of respect and loving each other is  thrown out of the window for selfishness and self lust. God created marriage as a union, to enhance each other, to help each other and to worship and bring Glory to Him and him alone.  

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:07 pm PDT

Grant still didn't get it.

After the whole discussion, I don't feel that Grant really learned anything.  He is one uptight guy.  Kelly seemed to be suffering from serious depression - from being put down.  I felt this couple needed more help than Dr. Phil gave on the show.  I would like to see Kelly be given more positive reinforcement to cope with this guy.   

  

  

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:09 pm PDT

As long as the "wife" is happy with her choices...

I find that we are all very unique in what makes us happy & what works for us individually. We bring that to our relationships - and when the relationship works -- both people are happy & content with whatever sacrifice is made. Personally, I think it is important to be the best, the most beautiful, the sexiest person to your spouse. We have to commit to do that - whatever that may be - in order to keep our relationships happy. Equally. Joy & Passion can never be forgotten if the marriage will last.... If cooking is something the husband does & enjoys - then he's the cook! I know plenty of couples who accept a messy household - it doesn't bother either of them - so who's complaining about housekeeping - or if it does, it's accepted.... There can be no "rule" for the perfect wife - as there is no such thing as a blanket statement regarding relationships..... But somehow both people must be happy - if that's in the traditional housewife role, and keeping the house, cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids is all one sided - than as long as it works, and there's love, respect & passion still there - that's great. If a woman decides to work - her husband MUST support that decision completely, and understand that working 40 hours a week doesn't leave enough time to take care of household chores, cooking every night & taking care of the children .... But the "wife" role - however it is - must include finding a way to keep the passion ignited for her husband - and it also must be reciprocated - to keep them faithful & happy together.... Once respect is gone - and criticism creeps in - the marriage isn't working - and they need help!
 
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October 10, 2005, 1:11 pm PDT

EARN IT

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I don't think she's 'bowing down' to her husband. She loves her job as a housewife and mother and does it to her best ability. What's wrong with that? It works for them and she is happy and fulfilled. As far as cleaning up before her husband gets home, I see nothing wrong with that either. I did the same thing when I was married. It wasn't really for him though, it was more for me. It made me feel refreshed and rejuvinated. If I'm in sweats with my hair pulled up and I look all messy and tired then I FEEL messy and tired. Plus, one thing I always hated was when my ex would have the day off and I'd come home from a very hard day to find that he hadn't even put on pants! He was still in his boxers, no shower, hadn't brushed his teeth or done anything but play on the computer and watch ESPN.
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER, AND I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WATCH THE CLOCK FOR HIM TO COME HOME.   HE KNOWS WHAT I DO EVERYDAY AND IT'S NOT A ISSUE.  I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY FOR HIM TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME. HE TAKES ME AS I AM.  AND TO ME THATS RESPECT. IF SHE IS HAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE, WHY IS SHE ON DR PHIL.
 
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