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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 10, 2005, 1:34 pm PDT

2 words to say

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The only thing I can think of as to what makes the "Perfect Wife" is......."The Perfect Husband"
 I have to words to say to you and thats RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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October 10, 2005, 1:36 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

Grant,  there is not one "right" way of doing things! 

  

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:36 pm PDT

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Dear Dr. Phil, 

  

At the end of your show today, you posed the question what wives think marriage should be all about, or at least I believe I remember that was the question (am getting a day older too!). 

  

After nearly 28 years of marriage, I am more than ever convinced that it boils down to a solid partnership with very personal touches. My husband and I are partners in just about everything, maybe in everything, period. We are partners in love and lovemaking, in friendship, in stewardship of our material things, in our social lives, in preparing our future, etc. It has not always been this way, but it has grown into this ultimate and intimate partnership. A partnership can never exist as a full partnership if not some and hopefully all of the conditions of a partnership are fulfilled: respect for one another, for one another's tastes, opinions, feelings, emotions, thoughts, expression of feelings, desires, abilities, traditions, customs, needs, personality (not necessarily in this order); appreciation of one another's talents and efforts to add to the partnership; willingness to compromise once in a while to benefit the partner (which then ultimately again benefits the one who compromises, is my experience); willingness to take on task chores of the other one, recognition of the state of mind and energy of the other one, etc., etc. The e-mail would become too long to list it all. I love my husband with all I got in me and he loves me too, as far as we both are concerned, unconditionally. Of course, we fulfill certain obligations, not only for ourselves, but also for one another: he works to make us an income, I take care of the home front, including administration, house cleaning, yard work, etc. but ONLY because I choose to do that. If it gets too much, I ask him to take over some of it and he'll gladly do that. He polishes my personality with cherishing me, and I believe I do the same to him. It is not something that we feel we MUST do, we do it because we LOVE to make the other one feel so good, so worthy, so special and so irreplaceable. And yes, we fight at times, but then we both imagine how the other one must be feeling in that particular argument, how would you feel if he said that to you? How would she feel if I did that to her? And then everything gets really good again in no time at all. After all these years we have learned to try to imagine what our words would mean to the other partner , what our actions would have for effect on the other and if they would hurt, well, jeez Louise, then don't say them to the other, or don't do that to the other, or whatever the situation is. We are not perfect and will never be, but I can tell you one thing: we love being with one another and  feel so blessed with what we have. I sometimes tell my husband, do you know how secure you make me feel, how self confident I am because of you? Do you know what it means to me to feel and know that you love me, just me, as your partner for life? He tells me I am his sunshine, the reason for his tenacity in his work situation, his princess, the apple of his eye, the reason he wants to wake up every day again. What more can you wish for as a wife? 

I so wished everybody who desires to be married, could experience this kind of relationship. 

 

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October 10, 2005, 1:37 pm PDT

Why I work

Most women I know don't work because they need to feel validated.  They don't work so that they can feel like they are doing something important. 

  

Most women I know work because their husband doesn't make enough money with one income to support an entire family.   

  

How dare this woman presume that the reason we work is because we want to get away from the house and be important?? 

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:39 pm PDT

Wifestyles

Well, I am a full time working mother (outside of the home) of two kids ages 13 and 8 and been married for 17 years.  My husband works also.  In todays society it is very hard to have one income coming in.  I have worked since getting out of high school.   I took today off from my job to be with my kids since they had the day off from school.  I sat and watched your show and couldn't believe it.  First, my husband and I have a 50/50 relationship, he actually cooks more than me but I do the laundry and he takes care of the outside work.  I use to like to dress nice and wear makeup all the time but for the last 10 years putting makeup on is more like a chore so why bother??  My husband still tells me I'm beautiful everyday and has NEVER critized the way I take care of the house, the kids and him.  We are more in love now than when we got married.  As for my kids, both of them are beautiful kids and we do things with them all the time.  As a matter of fact, my 13 year old daughter loves softball and plays almost year around.  Right now both of my kids are playing ball so I go one way and my husband goes the other and take turns with each of them.  To say you can't be a full time Mother/Father and work full time is simply not true.  I admit I get tired sometimes, but nothing makes me happier than to give my family the best that they can have and spend time with them doing what they love (PLAYING BASEBALL/SOFTBALL).  I may work fulltime outside the home but my family is still together and happy!!!
 
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October 10, 2005, 1:40 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

It's very difficult today to support a family with only 1 job.  Many women are forced to work to support their families.  

  

To have this woman say that you can't work and have a "quality" family and home is absolutely disgusting to me.   I think my family and home are just fine and I work a full time job just like my husband does.  We do chores together and I think we do a pretty darn good job.  We require my paycheck to get by.   

  

My blood simply boiled hearing her talk.  I love making my husband happy.. that part I agreed with.  He makes me happy, and I make him happy.  I don't have to be a Stepford Wife to leave my man wanting more. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:43 pm PDT

You're not a *itch, you're well-adjusted!

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I just have to say this: I must be the biggest witch to live with EVER. My poor husband--I personally have NO "desire" to keep a perfect house or do half the crap I'm reading people say on here. I think life is about a heck of a lot more than cleaning, cooking and taking care of ANYONE, I don't care WHO does it!!! My husband works, and helps around the house and does all the stuff I hate (spider patrol, heavy lifting, cleaning out grout, gross stuff) we both decorate and paint together, he loves to cook so he cooks on weekends or whenever he wants, we BOTH do the dishes at night--we both do laundry (so does my son, thank you--I totally think kids need to pitch in all the time). We plan trips together, wash the carpets or take turns mowing the lawn. He works hard, I work hard and sometimes we complain and moan together but good GOD, it's not about "him doing this" or "me doing that"--- it's US, having a life together. Some days I crash and just veg..and some days he does. I can't imagine feeling like I HAD to do anything "for" my husband. I just can't.  

Point is: Our house and it's "maintence" is like the last thing on our lists!!!!! If anyone EVER "graded" me on ANYTHING I did --and they weren't say, MY CHEMISTRY TEACHER, I'd hit them over the head with a bat and tell them where to go!   

I just have no idea where men like Grant come from or how they ever got married in the first place.  

I'm just like you!  My husband and I are both adults with functioning eyeballs.  If we see something needs taken care of, we take care of it.  Neither of us EXPECTS the other to do anything.  If the housework or the laundry pile up, then we take care of it together or divvy up the work.  And let me tell you, there's nothing sexier than watching your hubby clean the bathroom!  Submit to my husband?!?!?  That concept is so archaic and demeaning that it's beyond the point of ludicrous!  I wish people would give up the idea of "husbands helping us around the house".  EQUAL!  And as a matter of fact we did work into our wedding vows our division of labor and left out that obey crap.
 
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October 10, 2005, 1:43 pm PDT

What DOES make a good wife?

 Of course, this is just my opinion!  However, I think I am a modern thinking woman and probably many others share my opinion.  I think what makes a good wife is the same as what makes a good woman, person, mother, etc.  A woman has to have self-respect, and preferably knows what makes her happy.  In a marriage, hopefully she has found a man who also has self-respect and knows what makes him happy.  Once they communicate these "happy" things to each other, they can do whatever it takes to accomplish their combined goals without losing their self-respect or happiness.  I have found in my marriage that  household duties are not one person's job but should be shared.  I have found in my marriage that either or both parties can work outside the home contributing to the income and that spending that income is also shared.  If one person is better at finances, they may be in charge, but all things need to be negotiated.  In response to one of today's guests, there is nothing wrong with being neat and clean before your spouse comes home, and this works both ways for the man or the woman.  I am quite sure that most or all women prefer that their husbands are neat and clean too!  It seems to me that the reason my marriage has lasted 31 years and happy the majority of the time, is that we have learned to pick our battles, and compromise whenever we can.  I believe that over the years we have learned that to give thought to "how can I make today better for my spouse" is a great enhancer to our marriage.  We know that if Mama is happy, everybody is happy," and vice versa, "if Papa is happy, everybody is happy!"  We have experienced the opposite, and it's not fun!    My husband and I respect each other's individuality as well.  Many men have commented that he is so lucky that I "let" him go on hunting trips!  (He "lets" me go on vacations without him as well.)  What they really are saying is that we are lucky that we can go on seperate vacations and get no "flack" from the other spouse, and obviously we trust one another and appreciate that its good to have experiences without each other, but can share as much as we choose to with each other.  We don't necessarily analyze our marriage and make these decisions conciously, but if we did things differently, it didn't take long to learn what worked and what didn't.  We have learned that having unrealistic expectations puts too much stress on our lives and we try to eliminate stress at all times! That's all I have to say about that! (Forest Gump is one our favorite movies)
 
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October 10, 2005, 1:45 pm PDT

Agree with Diana

I know it is unpopular and not politically correct in this day and age, but I totally agree with Diana. I am only 24, and am doing the "stay at home wife" thing for the first time -- and I LOVE IT. I feel much more fulfilled doing this than I ever did sitting in a cubicle or behind a desk for 9 hours a day. I am sorry that so many women now feel like being a wife is demeaning, boring or unfulfilling and that they MUST have a career outside the home. To me, there is great joy in making a nice home for my husband, meeting his needs and being in a traditional role. I expect respect, love, and admiration in return and I get it!
 

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October 10, 2005, 1:47 pm PDT

a happy wife

 My name is Candy. I have been married 10 yrs to the same man and every day keeps getting better. I feel that Grant is totally destroying Kelly's self confidence and self image. Grant-I think you need to put Kelly and her feelings at the top of your to do list. First off, she is very pretty, let her dress comfortably. If you want her to play dress up, take it in the bedroom when the kids are asleep. If you want her to be sexy and act crazy with you then treat her like a Queen. If you treat Kelly with repect and make her happy by helping out around the house, eventually she will feel sexy and do the dressup thing for you.  

Kelly is doing the best she can as a housewife, make her feel special.                                                                                                     

 
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