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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:34:18 pm
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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 10, 2005, 2:22 pm PDT

wow that doesn't say much for the way you feel for your husband

Quote From: marhalee12

You're being awfully preachy for someone who thinks that there is more than one way to skin a cat! 

A lot of women have careers now.  Some want to...some have to.  Either way it doesn't change the level of caring for our children...you really don't want to go there, Lady! 

  

The difference of the 45 year old "housewife" and the 45 year old lawyer when hubby leaves...the lawyer is going to move on without missing a step... 

Who's going to be sitting on her pity pot wondering what her options are now that her financial cushion is gone!  Um, maybe the chick scrubbing the toilet.  But then I'm sure Merry Maids will be hiring!   

First it doesn't matter what kind of job a woman is working if she can have her husband walk out without warning & she not miss a step I think that's pretty cold or says you don't care for your spouse anyway.  I can assure you I AM 44 & at home & it wouldn't be money that I'd be concerned with if hubby walked out.   

  

With that said for someone who feels this woman was being preachy you're pretty insulting & judgemental too!  Exactly what is wrong with people who work manual labor jobs?   I came from a blue collar family.  Do you know how many people on these boards may do those kinds of jobs that you're insulting?  She may sound preachy but you sound like a snob! 

 
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October 10, 2005, 2:22 pm PDT

Grant & Kelly

One could see from Kelly's eyes alone, before you even asked her, that she was beaten down, defeated and hopeless.  I  was married for 6 years to a control freak, and frankly, never did anything right in his eyes.  I divorced him and have not remarried.  I no longer could or would marry a man with a critical agenda for me.  Once was enough.  I hope that Grant can  find it within himself to become a partner in his marriage, rather than the dictator with  a  clipboard, grading his wife's performance  in every aspect of their marriage.  Also, Kelly never smiled throughout the whole show.  If Grant doesn't make dramatic changes TODAY, TOMORROW AT THE LATEST, I can't imagine how their relationship can possible survive.
 
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October 10, 2005, 2:23 pm PDT

Induldge Yourself

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My husband and I just celebrated our second anniversary and I feel like I'm doing everything right, but feel disatisfied. I'm 28 yrs. old and have a good background on being a "good wife", due to my mother's constant bickering of  being a "good wife" ( cooking, cleaning, maintaining the house and family) while growing up. Basically, to be a submissive wife. I didn't realize then, what I know now. So,I grew up thinking that I would finish highschool and be married, have kids, and be a "good wife" to my husband. My mother always reminded me and my sisters, that a "good wife" should not argue, make any decisions, have no opinions or desires.  I always resented her for conditioning me to be a submissive wife. However, I grew up the opposite but from time to time, I would fall back into the submissive wife role.  I think I got the "good wife" role down - where do I go from here?
 you must have some things you dream about that you think would be fun to do someday, maybe now is the time to make plans to do them. You can start with just little things like a trip to a resort where they will pamper you for the day. Induldge yourself once in a while, you have been a good girl, you deserve it. Have an open line of communication with your partner and if he is understanding it shouldn't be any problem at all, maybe you two can go on a trip together, but this time you make the plans.
 
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October 10, 2005, 2:23 pm PDT

It is nice to have a male point of view on this

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  Marriage is a partnership & the respect should flow both ways! I would have to say as the husband in the marriage I was the one that was criticized & treated poorly. I was never thin enough, did enough around the house no matter how hard I worked. My wife was the major breadwinner & treated me like I was the slave. I worked, I just worked graveyards & slept during the day. But according to her I should have been up cleaning & taking care of business. I am not saying I am perfect but if she had treated me with respect & as an equal partner the marriage might have worked. Sometime I wonder how our children turned out so well & how on earth we stayed married for 10 years. So people, the morale of the story is: "treat each other as you would like to be treated". No one is THE BOSS, you are PARTNERS.   Chris E OKC, OK
 Hey there,
Nice to hear your opinion on an issue like this. I am sorry you were treated like that. I hope you find better in the future.

 
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October 10, 2005, 2:25 pm PDT

Wife syles

As a wife who is being divorced, after 30yrs+  I can say a woman should never loose herself. Speaking from experience, I have worked to make his dream come true , when he couldn't feed us I went to work, at a minimum wage job that I didn't like. I worked afternoon turn and missed alot of my children. And now that he has it, he isn't sure he wants it. And he knows he doesn't want me. I don't have a clue who I am. So please be true to you.
 
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October 10, 2005, 2:25 pm PDT

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 The most heartbreaking thing about this particular show, was Kelly.  I couldn't help but notice how sad and heartbroken she looked throughout the entire show.  The one that really needs a lesson in love and respect is Grant.  I'm sure he loves Kelly, but he is not doing a very good job expressing that love.  I've been married for 31 years, since I was 14, and we have always had love and mutual respect for each other. I agee with Robin, a spouse is a gift from God that we should cherish and love, not a possession.   Grant move it before you lose it.
 
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October 10, 2005, 2:27 pm PDT

God is in a marriage

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Thank you for backing me up.  I wasn't trying to preach at all.  I was only responding to someone that responded to me.  I am so pleased that I am not the only one that believes God has everything to do with a marriage.
If God isn't the center of a marriage the marriage will more than likely fail HE has everything to do with a marriage.  Two became one in a Partnership with God in the marraige.
 
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October 10, 2005, 2:29 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

I just wanted to say that I liked today's show...it touched me in a couple different ways. I agree with both sides. First of all, I believe that we should honor our husbands and they should honor us back. That is one things God tells us we should do. I am not the type of person to "submit" to my husband, I am much to stubborn for that, but I believe that if both people are where they should be in their marriage then it should fall into place...not that it doesn't take work, b/c it does. I have been married for 2 1/2 years. Everyone told us that the first 2 years would be the worst. We have both found the first 2 years to be pretty easy..A couple of things I could do better is cooking and cleaning. We have a 3 month old daughter and I work weekend nights. My husband would prefer me not to work, but I feel we could get out of debt faster if I do. I chose weekend nights so my husband could watch our daughter and I wouldn't have to send her to daycare. I agree partly with the lady who wants to do everything for her husband..I agree that we should do our best to make him happy, b/c if we don't he might look elsewhere for what he wants. I also think that it should be of our own free will to do those things and to not be forced to do it! I believe if we are stay at home moms and our husbands are the ones working, then we should do the majority of household stuff...but if we both work full time jobs, it should be split down the middle. Watching this show makes me want to keep my house cleaner and try to have dinner on the table more often. My husband never complains when he comes home and not much is done to the house b/c our daughter had a bad day. That makes me want to do better the next day!  Thanks Dr Phil 

 
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October 10, 2005, 2:30 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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Appears like Grant wants total control of his life as well as Kelly's. He may be a very insecure person to be so critical of Kelly. Grant, Remember that what you see in those night time soap opera's are all a fantasy.  

 

When my husband nags about how something is done in the house, I remind him that he does his job the way he deems appropriate, and also,I do not go into his garage and tell him how to clean it or where to put things (I wouldn't be able to get in the garage anyway as it is full of junk!)  

and he doesn't need to tell me how to do my job.  

 

Each person in the marriage needs to feel that they are contributing and that what they do is worthwhile. Wives, as well as husbands, need to know that they are important and valuable. Words mean nothing if not backed up with action. So if you say you love your spouse, but then you criticize and demean her, she will not believe your words.  

 

Marriage is to be a committment of mutual respect and love. Helping and supporting--not tearing down one another. 

 

A married person cannot live for him or her own self. Each person in the partnership needs to give and compromise, and work toward making their spouse happy and secure. 

 

I hope Grant gets a clue. Seems like he has a good heart, but his method just doesn't work. 

 

 

I totally agree with all you have said! Yay!
 
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October 10, 2005, 2:30 pm PDT

Do what works!

This is one topic that I don't think there is a single right answer, I think each couple needs to figure out what works for them.  We have always based our division of labor on what works:  I am currently a full-time graduate student, so I have very little free time.  Hubby *only* works 40 hours a week and has evenings and weekends free; I study or work on my teaching assistant duites all day, evening, and weekend, with only short study breaks for browsing the Internet ;)  (Actually today is our fall break, yay!)  During the school year, since hubby has the most free time he does most of the housework -- he cooks dinner every night and does dishes, and occasionally cleans other things when I need him to.  I do the weekly chores like laundry since they are easier to fit into my schedule.  However, during school breaks when I have the most free time, I am the one cooking dinner each night and doing most of the cleaning!  This works for us and makes us happy, so we do it. 

  

We've already discussed how after I graduate, we'll divide up the work more evenly since we'll both be working about the same number of hours a week.  Maybe we'll alternate who cooks and does dishes, or cook together, or something. 

  

However I am still torn about what do when we have kids.  I would love to be a stay-at-home mom (like my own mom), but I will very likely be making more money than hubby so I don't know how easily we could afford it.  I've always been hesitant to let someone else help raise my future kids (daycare, babysitters, etc), but yet hubby's mom worked full time and he went to daycare and he turned out great! ;)  I also don't want to be a housewife for the rest of my life, but my chosen field (Computer Science) is very difficult to re-enter after taking a few years off, because everything I know will be outdated!  I do know hubby really wants to help with the house and kids regardless of whether I stay at home or not, he's mentioned that several times, so I'm sure we will be able to figure out something that works, though I'll admit it may take some trial and error! 

  

But I know that every couple is different.  As long as both people are happy with the relationship, and the kids are happy and healthy as well, then it doesn't matter to me who does the chores, who makes the money, whether the wife wears makeup and heels or sweatpants .... just do whatever works for you! 

  

By the way, we do base our marriage on our relgious beliefs, but we haven't found anything in the Bible that says the wife must stay home and do housework wearing makeup and heels ;) 

 
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