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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:34:18 pm
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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 10, 2005, 6:12 pm PDT

this subject is no joke

You may not think that this has anything to do with today's subject, but read on... 

I have been married for almost 8 years, and 4 months ago my husband and I separated.   

He was just a little bit critical at first about little things...sometimes he would comment on the way I dressed or wore my hair...I thought nothing of it at first...as the years rolled on,  the criticisms became pickier and more frequent...not only was the dinner not good enough, the house not clean enough,  the kids not well fed, but I couldn't  park the car the right way,  pack the diaper bag good enough, or even purchase the right things at the store, the car wasn't washed often enough and on and on and on....my instinct was to say, 'well then do it yourself"  but of course the answer to that was "that is your job not mine, I work all day" but a "good wife" just doesn't say that sort of thing (according to him)  

Well, with a house and three kids, one in school with activities and 2 at home under the age of 4,  didn't I have a job and work all day as well??? (24 hrs a day?) 

He would barely give me enough  money for the groceries, then complain that I didn't take the kids anywhere...I couldn't even buy an ice cream or a bottle of water for them at the park if I had wanted to, and forget the mall..the gas in my car was always half full -- he would say "you have enough for where you need to go"  Later I found out out that if he left work early, he would not come home to be with the family, but go look at cars, look at tools, buy tools or buy whatever he needed..all the while the rest of the family waited around a year (no kidding) for new underwear...he was a huge hypocrite, obviously, and would form opinions not based in reality, but based upon his own paranoid thoughts... 

When we were first married, I of course was happy to oblige with whatever he wanted...I loved him and wanted to be a "good wife" ...I would have dinner on the table for him when he came home, I did take the time to make sure I looked good, smelled nice, and was in a pleasant mood for him...I would have greeted him in a " French maid outfit" if he had wanted, as one of the guests stated he would have liked his wife to have done... 

Let me tell you the key to this whole thing...RESPECT...MUTUAL respect.... 

If I had gotten back half as much as I gave things would have been ok,  but my husband was not that type of person, and neither is any man who says he wants a Stepford wife. 

There is nothing wrong with a woman who wants to stay at home take care of  the kids, the house, and her husband...BUT the husband must respect the woman for it...she is holding HIS life together...he must remember this and take the time to make HER feel as loved, cared for, wanted and respected as she does with him. 

Money has nothing to do with it.  He doesn't need to buy her things (money, such a common cop out excuse of the man)   It is respect.  Any man that wants a Stepford wife, NEEDS a maid,  and a prostitute he can visit once in a while, not a wife.  

A woman can be happy doing all the things a man wants her to do, but she needs to feel respected, loved and cared for....and if she is,  she will happily do all these things for him.   

Any woman that is with a man who is anything like the one I was married to will just end up feeling hopeless and depressed....and the kids will suffer because of it....separating from my husband was the best thing I could have done for myself and my kids...I feel as if a great  weight has been lifted from my shoulders.... 

When the come times that I do actually find my "Mr. Right" I will be happy to be the "good wife" as long as there is that mutual respect. 

    

  

             

 
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October 10, 2005, 6:14 pm PDT

im probably the only one but...

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All I have to say is the Bible has a lot to say. 

  

Don't take things too literally...it is not meant for you to take everything literally 

i agree with everything you've said so far. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 6:15 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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That is very interesting. We want more on this subject. What are your techniques? I think some say a woman doesn't need a man & some don't. I don't need anyone but God. Everyone else in my life is a gift, but I don't need any one person in particular. I enjoy my husband very much. And he pays the mortgage. And if my shirt is clean is inconsequential to him, unless we go out. I can tell when I take care of myself he seems happier with me in general. But this is true in every area of life. Scientifically speaking, studies show attractive humans get treated better than unattractive ones. Same goes for him. When he takes better care of his appearance, I think he gets a little bit better treatment from me. Not deliberately, but just as human nature goes, I guess.

My techniques revolve more around things that I do in my home, such as my meal planner, a system that works well for laundry, planning my day, planning the kids calendars, etc.  The reason it works well is because I have myself organized well enough that I have time for me and my husband and my family. 

   

I'm trying to help women who have decided to stay home.  I'm not trying to judge women who haven't, however, I do think it's in the best interest of the kids, but that's my opinion and you can take it or leave it. 

  

Diana 

 
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October 10, 2005, 6:15 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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 You hit it right on the head...
yeah... right on! Take that!

How exactlt am I judging women by giving my opinion, and speaking on a topic that the show was about? 

  

Why don't you ask me my opinion before you leap. 

  

Diana 

 
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October 10, 2005, 6:17 pm PDT

Southern Man Syndrome

My friend and I have always referred to some of the men which we have had the pleasure growing up with as to having what we call Southern Man Syndrome...... this kind of man expects everything from his wife and all he has to do is go to work and come home. (Some of them dont even do that)  The ones that do work expect their wife to do everything..... all the house work .....all the yard work and many women often work outside of their home as well as raise small children..... She does it all .......   All he does is exist.......    .If I didnt know several  women  in the same situation maybe I would not feel this way...... Its enough to make me agree with the woman at the end of the show     I agree  with her....  (I WALK ALONE)   
 
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October 10, 2005, 6:19 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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As a mother of 3 children in their 20's, I have worked outside the home since I have been married- to the same guy for 28 years. We have raised well adjusted, healthy young adults.You are correct, no one can have it all.There are only 24 hours in the day and not enough energy but the point is, we have CHOICES.I have the choice to work outside the home and YOU have made the choice to work within it. I think we all have missed this point. As women we continue to beat each other up when we should be supporting each other. Many women would LOVE to be able to stay home but cannot.Economics not laziness.Feminism as you call it has created the ability for women to have choices....there are many women throughout the world that would love to change places with us.

I agree that feminism has given women choices.  However, I wish that radical feminism didn't encourage women to try and do it all, when it's hard to do just one. 

  

I don't ever direct my comments towards women who have to work, ever.  I understand about that completely, in fact I support single mothers just as much as I support SAHM's.  My issue is with women who make the choice to work when they don't have to.   

 
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October 10, 2005, 6:22 pm PDT

are you insane?

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I can see marriage as a job.  For some people it is their career.  They stay home, raise kids, clean their homes, and cater to their partner.  That is fine.  But I watched a woman today tell us no one can have it all.  What?  We can't have a job outside of marriage and also work inside the home? 

  

How come? 

Don't MEN do it too? 

  

As far as I am aware, the odds are men are out there working in jobs and coming home and being a dad. 

WHOA... how amazing! 

  

Come on.  Get real.   Plenty of people can do both. 

If people choose to have their career be their home, that's great. 

I am all for it, if it works for them.  It would be nice if it only took one income to run a household. 

Don't get me wrong.  For some people one income is fine.  I know.  I did it myself.  Only I also raised 4 children who are now educated, responsible adults.  And who, by the way never had any of the out of control issues that seem so prevelant in todays children. 

  

Instead of claiming that things cannot be done, take a look around and admit it was  you that could not do it. 

  

what  man do you know who who works all day and then comes home to do all the other "jobs" a woman does??  women who work outside the home just have two jobs....most men don't "do it too"  you need to "get real" 
 
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October 10, 2005, 6:24 pm PDT

God help Engineers

My heart goes out to this lady.   I in no way condone her husbands attitudes and can identifiy with her feelings of never living up.    Three cheers to Dr. Phil for pointing out the destructiveness of critical attitudes.   

  

These are some of my observations from living with this alien being :o)  Things that have been  helpful for me anyway. 

  

1.  You did not marry a prince charming much less a romantic.   If you expect to be the light in his eyes....you will not be.  I would love to think that his world revolves around me, but alas it does not., it revolves around him and on that which he is focused.  The light of this is that you don't need to take this personally.  It has nothing to do with you.  It's just the way their little universe functions :o)  His love comes with time and with his observations of your worth, whether they be his ideals or yours.   Mine eventually caught on to the fact that I was pretty darn great just the way I am.  At least he's keeping his mouth shut now :o) 

  

2.  Supply your own self worth.  When he offers a helpful suggestion as far as time management or efficiency, by all means take it.  Anyone with a busy household can use a helpful suggestion.  However, live in your own world and if it doesn't work for your or it's just not the way you see it just give it that little smile and thank you and then (in your own head of course) tell him to kiss your ass.  It works for me and I harbor no animosity.  (This strategy has worked through an entire home renovation, which I have completed by myself) (Of course, as far as he knows, with his supervision :o) 

  

3.  If you find either of these suggestions helpful......GREAT!  If not, I can only agree, again, with Dr. Phil when he says "I would rather be happy and alone than sick with someone" 

  

Have a happy life girl and don't worry so much about his opinions.  What he has so say only lasts for the speed of sound.  What you feel about yourself lasts for a lifetime and also carries over to your kids.  They pick up on your ability to feel good about yourself regardless of what you hear from someone else. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 6:25 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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My friend and I have always referred tosome of themenwhich we have had the pleasure growing up with as to having what we callSouthern Man Syndrome...... this kind of man expects everything from his wife and all he has to do is go to work and come home. (Some of them dont even do that) The ones thatdo work expect their wife to do everything..... all the house work .....all the yard work andmany women often work outside of their home as well as raisesmall children..... She does it all ....... All he does is exist....... .IfIdidnt know several women in the same situation maybe I would not feel this way......Its enough to make me agree with the woman at the end of the show I agree with her.... (I WALK ALONE)

All he does is exist? 

  

You mean he doesn't work, or pay the mortgage, or any of the bills, or have respect for his wife?  Nothing?  He just stands there all day?  That wouldn't be a husband I would choose, but for a good man, I'll wash his underwear. 

  

Give and take. 

  

Diana 

 

 
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October 10, 2005, 6:28 pm PDT

Insecurity breeds insecurity

My husband and I share the responsibilities of parenting, homemaking and deriving income. It just works out best for us, and we find the greatest level of peace, health and happiness when he is the one going to work outside the home and I am minding matters in our home and raising our daughter. I was a practicing attorney before I became pregnant. Yes, it is a huge shock to go from professional life to domestic life full time. I was really inspired by the woman on the show today who truly puts 100+% into her work as a homemaker, takes it like a career, and finds personal satisfaction in keeping everyone in her family happy and healthy. From my own personal experience, going to the office and handling a litigation practice was far easier than what I now do every day. I don't get a pay check, but I get enough satisfaction from knowing and seeing that my efforts at home are creating a loving, productive and successful family. I feel so bad for the woman whose husband is so critical of her. Clearly, he has not yet become secure with himself and is still seeking perfection in everything he touches. He will end up losing his wife and his children unless he can focus on the insecurities he has within himself. My husband would NEVER be so inconsiderate or disrespectful as to dress me down for the manner in which I organize our home, present myself in public, or prepare meals. He is ALWAYS supportive, ALWAYS loving and endlessly apologetic when he unwittingly hurts my feelings or finds fault with me. We love eachother MORE than we love ourselves, as Jesus loved the church. This is the secret to a successful marriage that can make it through the years of mismatched tupperware, dirty diapers, love handles and whatever other disagreeable realities come our way. Thanks, Dr. Phil, for all that you are doing for our society, for families, and for the individuals you impact every day.
 
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