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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 9, 2005, 8:51 am PDT

You need help

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Looks like you have some issues within inside your self,  

  

Do you go to your husbands work and help him during the day? I think not. If it wasn't for your husband you would be taking care of your kids and working because I'm sure your the type of woman that would keep your kids from you husband for the sole purpose of receiving child support. So maybe you should get off your butt and stop watching TV and surfing the NET all day.  

  

If you are such a caring and loving person you would be able to look past all of this and accept your position in life. Remember your the Mommy, NOT the Daddy. So put on a nice dress and cook some muffins for your kids and you husband, and have them ready for him the next time he walks in the door. 

  

Bill Jinkens 

I don't think you are in the place to tell anyone what their position is.  I would like to know what you think the characteristics of a woman who will leave just to collect child support from her poor husband.  When was the last time you walked in the door with some flowers for your wife or made her want to have some muffins cooked when you got in.  It is not about a place in society it is about respect.  Being macho does not make you a man.   

  

I raised a child on my own without any child support and looking back on it now that wasn't right I wasn't the only person responsible for my child, but I loved her and would not submit her to having to be with someone who did not love her enough to want to take care of her without being forced.   

  

If worrying about having to pay child support is a problem I have a solution (Keep your pants on).    

 
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October 9, 2005, 9:07 am PDT

I would be....

I would be a perfect wife if I had a perfect husband. Thank God he is not! It takes the pressure off me, thats for sure. I pity the wives who have a perfect husband who never eats junk food, or never plays online poker, or never attacks her with kisses or always insists on dancing in the kitchen when his favorite song comes on the radio. I will take my funny husband with his flaws, and foibles- tantrums and talents over any  other man.  You people are getting insane over this and I blame the media. Setting these standards that no one can achieve- boo and hiss.
 
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October 9, 2005, 9:28 am PDT

It's Simple

    Everyone is different and every marriage is different.  The same things don't work for everyone.  I think that so long as you are both loving each other and are able to be yourself with each other, then the rest is just small details.  It's hard enough to just find someone that you connect with in this life.  Let's not sweat the small stuff and just enjoy and appreciate each other.   Our kids are only young once and we are only young once - we can't ever go back and do it again.  I think that we all need to chill out and just enjoy life.  We need to find out own happiness and not wait for our husbands or wives to make us happy.  If we can do that, then we will be ok. 
 
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October 9, 2005, 9:54 am PDT

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Looks like you have some issues within inside your self,   

   

Do you go to your husbands work and help him during the day? I think not. If it wasn't for your husband you would be taking care of your kids and working because I'm sure your the type of woman that would keep your kids from you husband for the sole purpose of receiving child support. So maybe you should get off your butt and stop watching TV and surfing the NET all day.   

   

If you are such a caring and loving person you would be able to look past all of this and accept your position in life. Remember your the Mommy, NOT the Daddy. So put on a nice dress and cook some muffins for your kids and you husband, and have them ready for him the next time he walks in the door.  

   

Bill Jinkens  

  

  

  

BILL,  

     MY RESPONSE TO THIS IS -  IF I WERE YOUR WIFE YOU  WOULD BE WORKING A WHOLE LOT HARDER TO AFFORD ALL THOSE CHILD SUPPORT CHECKS, THEN WE WOULD TALK OUR JOBS.  WOMEN DON'T STAY HOME BECAUSE IT'S THEIR JOB - THEY DO IT BECAUSE IT'S BETTER THAN PAYING SOMEONE ELSE TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN.  YOU SHOULD BE SO DAMN GREATFUL TO YOUR WIFE THAT YOU KISS HER FEET EVERY NIGHT WHILE YOU THANK HER.  SHE IS RAISING YOUR CHILDREN.  SHE COULD GO OUT AND GET A JOB AND LET SOME TOTAL STRANGER AT A DAYCARE RAISE THEM.  AND BELIEVE ME, IT WOULD BE EASIER TO GO TO WORK EVERYDAY THEN DO WHAT SHE IS DOING.  SHE WILL EVENTUALLY BURN OUT AND GROW TO HATE YOU OVER THE YEARS OF BEING BELITTLED AND HELD DOWN.  THEN YOU WILL EAT ALL YOUR GENDER ROLE CRAP WHEN SHE IS LIVING LARGE ON YOUR PAYCHECKS.  SHE IS DOING YOU A SERVICE - YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE IN HER LIFE THAT CAN MEET HER NEEDS.  HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT - OR ARE YOU TO BUSY GETTING YOUR NEEDS MET?     

 
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October 9, 2005, 11:12 am PDT

Do we need biology 101?

If you weren't made from man what were you made from??  

  

Well, let's see, I was conceived by a sperm and an egg just like any man was.  The only difference is that he got the Y chromosome and I didn't.  So....please don't be telling me what my role is based on a story in the Bible.  It is your choice to take every story in the Bible literally, not mine.  It is up to us to find out what God expects from us and use what gifts He gave us and know what our purpose is in life.   God made me a physician, I chose to listen to that and dedicate much of my life to that.  He also gave me a mother's heart and luckily led me to a husband who is my partner, and is as much of a cleaner, cooker and chauffer as I am.  I wish people wouldn't assume that their choices should be everyone else's.  You want to be a traditional wife?  Fine...I'm sure you'll then find a husband who agrees with you.  The key is finding the role that makes you feel happy, peaceful, fulfilled and that gives you a happy, content family. 

 
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October 9, 2005, 11:34 am PDT

What Makes a Good Wife?

I am a 45 year old female and am looking forward to seeing what the answer is to this question on the next Dr. Phil show.  This is a question that men and women will probably not agree on for another decade or two, heck probably never.  Most men try to keep it a secret to avoid conflict, but if you listen real closely they are trying to give you hints.  They still want their wife to have a sexy trim body, staying at home keeping the house clean and organized, having a delicious hot meal waiting for him when he returns home from a hard day at work, and he wants you to greet him at the door wearing sexy lingerie and red heels.  Guess what?  During my marriage I was a member of a gym and went regulary, I think I can cook a pretty good meal (and that doesn't mean spaghetti), I did greet him at the door in sexy lingerie (of course only when no kids were around).  I did this for almost 20 years, and I worked full-time as a medical receptionist.  My husband got off work at 3pm, and I got off work at 6pm.  He should have had dinner started, but instead he waited for me to get off work to cook, I filled his dinner plate and served it to him, kept his drink re-filled, even prepared and packed his lunches for him.  He didn't do dishes, or laundry, or any housework (he said that was woman's work).  He was rarely home on his days off,  because his friends and hobbies were more important than I was.  Finnaly I woke up .  .  .   and divorced his Neanderthal butt in 2003.  So, now I am dating again and am confused.  You tell me what makes a good wife? Obviously the cooking, cleaning and sexy lingerie didn't keep my man at home.  Now what? 

 
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October 9, 2005, 11:45 am PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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my hub works about that many hours, and i take care of my only child whose 4 months old and i work part time. being a mother is a hard job to do, whether its one child or twenty. the thing is, i work just as many hours as he does, most of them at home and i don't get any help or any graditude for the jobs that i do. i pressure him to help me b/c i work and make money also. it stresses me out when i feel like i'm raising two children. he thinks a good wife is one who cleans, cooks, takes care of the kids and gives him pleasure every night. i have a big problem with that b/c i have a lot of issues that make having sex all the time not fun for me. so what do you do when both wear the pants and make the money? but the only thing he does is work.
You divorce his Neanderthal butt, give him custody of the kids and go out and have some fun!  :)
 

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October 9, 2005, 2:19 pm PDT

Differing opinions...

I guess for us all, the role of wife and mother has different meanings or hmmmm, trying to say it without offending...We each see our part in our families differently.  Some women have no choice but to work and help  their husbands support the family, leaving their children to be taken care of by 'strangers in a daycare'.  Some are able to stay home and take care of our children fulltime, cook, clean, and all that.  Some work part time and some don't.  Some have jobs that allow them to work from home.  Some have jobs that are part work from home and part work outside the home.  Some are able to arrange thier schedules so that the children are with a parent at all times, instead of in childcare.  Some have children in school, some homeschool, some have children that are grown and out of the home.  Some have children that are grown and have come back home.    Some of us have learned how to delegate age appropriate chores to our children, some of us are still trying to figure out how to teach their soon to be three year old that they toys don't have to be dumped on the floor and spread out all over the place to be tripped on and stumbled over.  Some of us have step children who are a little older and more responsible and are able to come over and give us a break with the smaller kids every once in a while.  Some of us  have children who are being raised by angels because they are no longer here with us.  Some of us have husbands who take pride in the hard work we do and support and help and encourage us at every turn.  Some of us have husbands or helpmates that do the absolute best they can.  Some us have husbands who don't support a single thing we do, or lift a finger to help.  Some of us have abusive husbands.  Some of us have no husband at all.   Some of us have husbands who aren't perfect, but they sure do try hard to help us.  Some of us have husbands that work hard to support thier family and know that they are still barely scraping by, and berate themselves for not doing better, but they never blame their wives, but some of them do.  Some of us are the abuser.  Some of us feel that no matter what our husbands do it will never be good enough.  Some of accept and love our husband and children unconditionally.  Some of us fall somewhere in between.  We lose our temper sometimes when we're angry, we break down and cry for no reason, or cry for so many different reasons that we don't even know if they are happy or sad tears.  Some of us giggle like school girls when our husbands nuzzle our necks, and some of us turn a cold shoulder.  Some of us do the best we can with what we have, and take it one day at a time. 

Just for today, let us all be a "good wife" (whatever definition we give those two words) and just for today, let us all support our husbands and help them to be "good husbands", (whatever definition we give those two words).  And be thankful for the goodness and love that we have in our lives.  Let us keep in our thoughts those who are in abusive relationships, whether it is the man or the woman who is the abuser.  And let us also be thankful that it is not us. 
 

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October 9, 2005, 2:41 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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Well, hopefully, they're with a parent or other relative.  I am sincerely hoping they are not in daycare, at least not the little one. 

  

You do put your life on hold when you have kids, or at least you should.  When you have kids, you go from having your own life to giving them a life (and I don't mean material things).  Women who stay at home with their kids and sacrifice to be the ones who raise them, are the most selfless human beings on the planet. 

  

I wasn't assuming there were problems in your marriage.   

 What about the woman with children who leave an abusive relationship but has no job skills?  How can they take care of their children and NOT put them in some type of childcare so that they can go to school to support their family on more than a laughable minimum wage?   Not everyone is blessed with the ability to go to college directly out of high school.  And in this day and age, it is downright difficult to earn a decent living without it.

And again, there is nothing wrong with daycare.  My child had to be in daycare for a while, and NO I did not just put her anywhere.  I researched and found a good daycare facility that didnt' have a high child/adult ratio.  I found one that was the best for my child and our needs. 

Our live ARE NOT put on hold simply because we have children.  We are still wives or husbands,  and most of us still have rolls outside of our children.  We are friend, daughter or son, brother or sister.  We don't stop living because we have children.  We are still to have an identity outside of our children, that is how we teach our children to be independent, healthy, and mature adults. 

Dr. Phil said this< "You say you would die for your children, but what I want you to do is LIVE for them."  No better words ever spoken.  

I think our priorites are supposed to go in this order:  1) God, 2) Spouse, 3) Children, 4) Others.

Buy putting God at the head of our family as a whole, we have His divine leadership and love to guide us.  Buy putting our spouse first, we are teaching our children how a loving relationship is supposed to look.  And by putting our children before others, we teach them that they are ours and we love them and that we are a family. 
 
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October 9, 2005, 3:45 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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my hub works about that many hours, and i take care of my only child whose 4 months old and i work part time. being a mother is a hard job to do, whether its one child or twenty. the thing is, i work just as many hours as he does, most of them at home and i don't get any help or any graditude for the jobs that i do. i pressure him to help me b/c i work and make money also. it stresses me out when i feel like i'm raising two children. he thinks a good wife is one who cleans, cooks, takes care of the kids and gives him pleasure every night. i have a big problem with that b/c i have a lot of issues that make having sex all the time not fun for me. so what do you do when both wear the pants and make the money? but the only thing he does is work.

Tell him what I am telling my husband. 

Foreplay and excitment about having sex starts in the morning. I rather have my hubby vacuum the house then buy me flower. That is more exciting to me then presents or flowers or dinners out or whatever the case might be. 

Or just quit having sex with him and if he complains about it you tell him he needs to start helping out more at home becasue you cant be a wife and a mother and a provider and a maid and a lover. Sometings gotta go. 

Good luck 

  

  

 
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