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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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October 9, 2005, 4:09 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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I am a 45 year old female and am looking forward to seeing what the answer is to this question on the next Dr. Phil show.  This is a question that men and women will probably not agree on for another decade or two, heck probably never.  Most men try to keep it a secret to avoid conflict, but if you listen real closely they are trying to give you hints.  They still want their wife to have a sexy trim body, staying at home keeping the house clean and organized, having a delicious hot meal waiting for him when he returns home from a hard day at work, and he wants you to greet him at the door wearing sexy lingerie and red heels.  Guess what?  During my marriage I was a member of a gym and went regulary, I think I can cook a pretty good meal (and that doesn't mean spaghetti), I did greet him at the door in sexy lingerie (of course only when no kids were around).  I did this for almost 20 years, and I worked full-time as a medical receptionist.  My husband got off work at 3pm, and I got off work at 6pm.  He should have had dinner started, but instead he waited for me to get off work to cook, I filled his dinner plate and served it to him, kept his drink re-filled, even prepared and packed his lunches for him.  He didn't do dishes, or laundry, or any housework (he said that was woman's work).  He was rarely home on his days off,  because his friends and hobbies were more important than I was.  Finnaly I woke up .  .  .   and divorced his Neanderthal butt in 2003.  So, now I am dating again and am confused.  You tell me what makes a good wife? Obviously the cooking, cleaning and sexy lingerie didn't keep my man at home.  Now what? 

It's about respecting each other, he resepects you and you respect him. Then the cooking, the laundry and the dishes won't seem like much.  We spend so much time bitching at our husbands about the jobs we have to do and eventually they get sick of it and stop treating us like the women we are.
 
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October 9, 2005, 7:13 pm PDT

My Wifestyle

Hello 

I am a not just a wife, I am an active duty military wife along with being a mother.  I don't believe that there is ever going to be the "perfect" wife, there are always going to be inperfections.  But if a husband and wife love each other, can work together and be a team together they can conquer the world. 

 
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October 9, 2005, 8:05 pm PDT

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I read the things that everyone was saying and I must say it has added to the growing sadness in my life.  I feel trapped and alone in my marriage.  I have no one to talk to about this so I hope that someone could add something to help me out.  My husband works full time (midnight shift) then attends college full time (finishing a degree he started 10 years ago).  Three months ago I gave birth to a wonderful baby boy that is the light of my life.  My husband does NOTHING to help me.  He never has.  He kept making excuses.  First it was my job to take care of him, the house, the land, the dogs and the bills because I was a college student and had nothing else to worry about.  Then he couldn't help once I got a job because I worked part time.  Then when I got a full time job he said that he made more money so I could make up for the difference by taking care of everything.  Now I am a housewife.  Now it is my job to do everything.  He has no idea what I do all day.  The house is never clean enough for him.  I do the best I can considering he is a slob.  Plus, since he works nights, he sleeps most of the day.  I have to be as quiet as a mouse and keep the baby quiet so he can sleep.  I am at his beck and call in bed.  I have to put the baby down and have sex whenever he sees fit.  I feel dead inside.  I haven't been kissed in a year.  He never says I love you or even hugs me.  I feel like a servant.  If I wouldn't have had my son I probably would have left him but I am afraid to.  My husband isn't the nicest man ever.  Does anyone know what I can do?  I really do try to have all my chores done.  Is there a way I can reorganize myself?  I guess I am just fooling myself.  If I bust my butt to get everything done and perfect (which we all know it never will be) it will not cause him to love me.  Love, compassion, understanding.  These words are a mystery to my husband.  Will I ever be happy?
 
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October 9, 2005, 8:12 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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 What about the woman with children who leave an abusive relationship but has no job skills?  How can they take care of their children and NOT put them in some type of childcare so that they can go to school to support their family on more than a laughable minimum wage?   Not everyone is blessed with the ability to go to college directly out of high school.  And in this day and age, it is downright difficult to earn a decent living without it.

And again, there is nothing wrong with daycare.  My child had to be in daycare for a while, and NO I did not just put her anywhere.  I researched and found a good daycare facility that didnt' have a high child/adult ratio.  I found one that was the best for my child and our needs. 

Our live ARE NOT put on hold simply because we have children.  We are still wives or husbands,  and most of us still have rolls outside of our children.  We are friend, daughter or son, brother or sister.  We don't stop living because we have children.  We are still to have an identity outside of our children, that is how we teach our children to be independent, healthy, and mature adults. 

Dr. Phil said this< "You say you would die for your children, but what I want you to do is LIVE for them."  No better words ever spoken.  

I think our priorites are supposed to go in this order:  1) God, 2) Spouse, 3) Children, 4) Others.

Buy putting God at the head of our family as a whole, we have His divine leadership and love to guide us.  Buy putting our spouse first, we are teaching our children how a loving relationship is supposed to look.  And by putting our children before others, we teach them that they are ours and we love them and that we are a family. 
You have one thing WAY wrong.  The order is 1) God, 2) CHILDREN 3) Spouse, 4) Others.  If I had to choose to save my husband or my son, my son would win everytime. 
 
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October 9, 2005, 9:10 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

My husband works in the oil field, and is gone from the house about 16 to 18 hours a day, for 12 days in a row.  He has no time to do anything other than to eat, sleep and work.  Its a rough schedule, but its what he has to do to make a living.  I do everything around the house,  because with the way he works, I don't expect him to do anything.  People say that mothers/wives should get help from their spouses, but thats not always realistic in every womans situation.  If my husband had an 8-5 job, and had weekends off, then I might get more help, but that is not the case.  I don't gripe about it because I could have ended up with a man that doesn't work at all and made me work outside the home, and so forth. (And I am not saying anything bad about stay at home dad's, I am talking about lazy men who don't work and still make their wives do everything).  I feel that I am blessed to be able to stay home with my child so that I don't have to leave her with family or with day care providers.  And I don't mind doing everything around here because my husband is out working hard to provide a comfortable living for us.  I know that the liberal minded women might think that I and other women like me are being treated like "maids", but I disagree.  I take my situation as a blessing, not a curse.
 
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October 9, 2005, 10:28 pm PDT

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My husband works in the oil field, and is gone from the house about 16 to 18 hours a day, for 12 days in a row.  He has no time to do anything other than to eat, sleep and work.  Its a rough schedule, but its what he has to do to make a living.  I do everything around the house,  because with the way he works, I don't expect him to do anything.  People say that mothers/wives should get help from their spouses, but thats not always realistic in every womans situation.  If my husband had an 8-5 job, and had weekends off, then I might get more help, but that is not the case.  I don't gripe about it because I could have ended up with a man that doesn't work at all and made me work outside the home, and so forth. (And I am not saying anything bad about stay at home dad's, I am talking about lazy men who don't work and still make their wives do everything).  I feel that I am blessed to be able to stay home with my child so that I don't have to leave her with family or with day care providers.  And I don't mind doing everything around here because my husband is out working hard to provide a comfortable living for us.  I know that the liberal minded women might think that I and other women like me are being treated like "maids", but I disagree.  I take my situation as a blessing, not a curse.

Yay!  It's about time somebody really understood what the give and take is.  I get so tired of listening to the complaining about how our husbands don't do this and that, when they work just as hard as we do.  Yes, staying at home is a 24/7 job, but we do have times for breaks on occasion - and more so if you can get yourself organized. 

  

Nothing wrong with doing your job, him doing his job and doing things for eachother. 

  

Yay, I loved your post. 

  

Diana 

 
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October 9, 2005, 11:10 pm PDT

What do you mean "great Wife!"

There are a few things that make a great relationship, two of them are "enthusiastic agreements", and "staying on the same page." I love God and my husband, but without those two things we would be in trouble. My husband is a paramedic and works 24 hr shifts so his schedule is never the same. So I try to have my 30hr work schedule around his and our two daughters, who are 13 and 9. Working together is essential in any relationship, but if you don't agree and you aren't on the same page, then what are you doing? We work together, and are never far apart. We as a family clean because we believe it is the responsibility of the family to keep the home clean. All of us share the responsibility for our home. I just wanted to convey my feelings for this sore subject I have with having to be a "great wife", and I can see the conjecture how it is the woman who does a good majority of responsibility for the home management, but I just feel that it is isn't fair to ask what does it mean to be a "great wife", when it should be what does it take to have a great marriage !
 
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October 10, 2005, 12:56 am PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

                         I am a full time mom, I have been married for 16 years, I have 3 kids and my husband is in the US army. we travel alot and he is gone alot. so most of the time its just me and the kids, but when he  is here he works from 5:30am until 5:00 pm and some time later. I clean and get everything ready for him to come home, dinner is usually  cooking when he gets home except soccer night, which all 3 of my kids play. I home school all 3 of my kids, I have no one who can help me, since we are stationed in germany, and our families are all in the state. I feel being a full time mom is hard but very rewarding. I see alot of wives here who are in the milatary who never have time with their kids because of their careers, I see moms who cant stand being home all day with their kids so they go get a job and have no idea what their childs been up to all day. 

                      I am very thankful for having a husband who lets me stay home to raise our kids, and I love it when he has a day off and I can spend a day with him , without worrying about having to go to work, and not getting to see him. The days I dont get everything done  he comes home and helps. He goes out and makes the money, I get to spend it!!!!   Im not saying women shouldn't have a job, but I am saying you cant give  a 100% to your family and a 100% to your career, and still have time for yourself. Even as a full time mom its hard to find me time. my husband takes me out every saturday night he is here, to get me out for  awhile. 

                      We have a very close family, my husband and I work at this family together.  Being a house wife is hard but so isnt the infantry. so we both keep the home fires burning, in two differnt ways. 

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:16 am PDT

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Dr. Phil, 

  

My husband and I just watched your 'Wifestyles' episode and were amazed at the guys archiac and antiquated illusions of marriage.  If he truly wants to make the marriage work he should seek professional help.  I have been happily married for ten years, we were together for four prior to marrying, but the one thing that I have always said and still believe today is that I married my husband for who he was and who he wanted to become.  I am not interested in changing who he is and I knew what his shortcomings were before I agreed to marry him; therefore, when I said 'I do' I was agreeing to accept and love him for who he was. 

  

It is amazing that the divorce rate is so high.  There is obviously a misconception about what marriage is and a lack of willingness to compromise and work together.  Marriage is a partnership, a lifelong commitment that requires give and take from both sides.  For one party to decide that they want the other to fully bend to their will or illusions of perfectness is not only unfair to the other person, but unrealistic as to how life really works. 

  

As an active duty member I work long hours and spend a great deal of time away from the house.  My husband supports my career and encourages me when I feel that I have taken too much away from the family.  One member of the family has to be the 'breadwinner', the decision about who has to be one that is reached from a mutual standpoint and one that keeps everyone happy.  However, there is no way that I would ever allow anyone, my husband or someone else, tell me how to run my house, how to dress, or how to cook.  If they do not like the way that I am doing something with my life then they are welcome to show themselves out the door. 

  

Anyone that is willing to standby and allow someone to push them around or make them feel bad needs to rethink the relationship that they are in.  Respect works both ways and unless you respect yourself you cannot expect to be respected by those around you.  It is important that everyone, men and women understand that and work to feel good about themselves first and foremost. 

  

The first lady that appeared on your show, whose husband expected her to become a stepford wife has a legitimate fear for her children.  As long as she allows her husband to treat her that way and continues to feel unworthy, inadequate, and unhappy her children will learn those behaviors which will eventually lead to them exhibiting the same attitudes and behaviors.  I wish her all the best in finding herself and learning to stand up for who she is and what she wants for her children.  Her inner strength will prevail and she has the ability to make the life for herself that she desires, she just has to find the courage to say enough and then make the changes necessary to get where she wants.  I am not saying that her marriage has to end in divorce - I am saying that she has to stand her ground and have the courage to make her feelings, desires, and wants heard, and then act on them in the way that she believes is best for herself and her children. 

  

Your show touched a nerve for me and I am amazed that people still believe in the "bare foot and pregnant" mentality.  I guess we have not come as far with our rational and equality as we would like to believe. 

  

Thank you, 

rogue1 

 
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October 10, 2005, 1:51 am PDT

the rib symbol side by side (equality)

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch. 

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended. 

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man.  It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.    

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father.  He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.    

 Why wasn't Eve formed from Adam's head or foot? Why was eve created from Adam's ribs? Whether you choose to understand the story literally or figuratively,  one should understand that Eve was not created from Adam's foot implying that she should follow. Nor was she created from his head implying that she should be the sole leader. Rather the concept of her being created from the ribs symbolizes that Adam and Eve are equal and walk  the path side by side.
 
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