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(Original Airdate: 10/10/05) What makes a good wife? Is it cooking, cleaning, raising the kids and having great sex? Dr. Phil says too few couples understand what it means to be a "Mrs." His first guest, Grant, says his wife, Kelly, is in desperate need of "wife lessons" when it comes to her cooking, cleaning and the way she dresses. Kelly says trying to be the perfect wife while raising three kids is overwhelming, and she fears she'll never be good enough. See what happens when she puts her hubby to the "wife test." Will he be able to do it all? Then, Diana says a good wife must serve her man instead of trying to balance a career and a family. Plus, a woman who thinks "wife" is a four-letter word! Join the discussion.

 

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December 29, 2005, 1:29 pm PST

values?

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If a woman is a stay at home mom, yes I do think she needs to try to the best of her ability to keep the house clean, have supper made, and if she has time , tidy up a little bit, on her appearance.  

In regards to keeping cabinets organized, that can get done together as a couple when the kids  

are napping on the weekend , or in the evening. As for  A+ meals , to me those meals are for the 

weekends when hubby can help with the kids. And it's a 2 way street, if I'm going to make sure 

I look like a sexy mama, when he gets home. He can do the same for me , get out of the work 

clothes, get in the shower. And don't just lay in the recliner and eat Twinkies.! HA HA !!. 

But if you work full-time like myself, the rule we have is who ever gets home first makes supper, 

and it's usually something quick, and we take turns making A+ meals on the weekend. And we 

pitch in to get the housework done.   

 yes, however, what is "old fashioned"...i married into a very traditional and conservative "old world" family, and within that huge extended family, there were many different ways that the men and women, girls and boys, could express their role in the family.  in fact, because this extended family was not particularly well-to-do,households were shared by several "families", that is, wives, husbands, children, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins and so on, shared the same domicile.  That is the "old fashioned values" of a traditional family; and, in fact, that extended family living together under one roof was not done just because of lack of "richer" resources, in fact, they would have thought it astonishing that a couple should hole up somewhere off by themselves in a suburban house.  as a result, the "old fashioned values" included such things as mothers not necessarily doing any cooking or housekeeping at all, or rarely, as the chores were shared by everyone, included sometimes the men.  when i was first married, the main part of the chores of housekeeping were done by a younger woman, a unmarried cousin, who did those chores in exchange for the family supporting her in her studies at university (hey, how old fashioned can you get?).
this large extended family would find it very unusual and perhaps a bit unhealthy, that the couple was isolated like that with the wife's role of mother being confused and blurred with that of housekeeper.  in this very traditional, old fashioned family, all the family members work together doing what needs to be done to keep the family together and functioning well.  men and women both work inside and outside the "home" (the family) to accomplish that. 
 
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December 29, 2005, 1:31 pm PST

In Regards to Jim1970

I think that if we all just realize that Jim is unhappy with himself and feel sorry for him, instead of getting angry and replying angrily to his trolling posts, he'll go away. I made the attempt, yesterday, and told him that I was not angry with him, just sorry for him, and he hasn't replied to a single thing I've said since. Hm. Maybe it's worth a shot? 

  

  

 
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December 29, 2005, 1:33 pm PST

Dr. Phil's statement

Does anyone remember the statement that Dr. Phil made during the Wifestyle show about Robin being in a crowd of 25,000 women???   The statement brought tears to Robin's eyes.  If anyone remembers, please post it.
 
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December 29, 2005, 1:38 pm PST

Dr. Phil's Statement

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I was married to a man much like Grant. He expected me to be perfect, look perfect, and act perfect at all times while never expressing my opinion about anything at all. To him, I didn't have an opinion. I was there to cook his meals, clean his house, and meet his needs all while taking care of the 3 children that were -in his words- "my fault".  (Like I got pregnant on my own to punish him!) And I was expected to look like a Barbie doll while doing all of this. 

  

While I am a strong believer in the woman being the helpmeet, we must remember that Eve was not taken out of Adam's foot, so she is not here for him to step on. Eve was taken out of Adam's rib- his side, i.e., his helper.  She has an opinion- an invaluable one, might I add- and a husband who does not listen to his wife's God-given intuition is not a wise husband. 

  

I agree with the post that mentioned Kelley's lack of orginization as a possible problem in the marriage, but instead of criticizing her, maybe Grant could have helped her to get more organized. Remember, it takes 2 people to make a marriage work. 

  

Thank you, Dr. Phil, for telling it like it is. Your stand is much needed in today's "politically correct" world. And thank you, also, for not being afraid to show the world how much you love your wife.  If only there were more men like you in the world. 

  

Do you remember Dr. Phil's statement about Robin being in a crowd of 25,000 women?  It brought tears to her eyes.  I thought it was so deep, but I can't remember it word for word.
 
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December 29, 2005, 1:42 pm PST

Probably a good idea

instead of getting angry and replying angrily to his trolling posts, he'll go away.  

 

I know you're right, it's just that I find them so funny I can't help sending back a sarcastic comment.  I'll try to be good from now on. 

 
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December 29, 2005, 2:00 pm PST

What makes a perfect wife ?

  

 In my opinion a perfect wife, is when you walk into a house and the house is full of love, 

and if the house happens to be clean or the wife happens to be attractive, then thats extra icing on the cake.  

There is no such thing as real "perfection", because perfection is in the eye of the beholder, however being real starts from the inside.    

The imperfections in all of us, is what makes us all different from one another, and it's the imperfections that we so fondly remember when our love ones are no longer with us. 

 
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December 29, 2005, 2:18 pm PST

you have a good point

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I think that if we all just realize that Jim is unhappy with himself and feel sorry for him, instead of getting angry and replying angrily to his trolling posts, he'll go away. I made the attempt, yesterday, and told him that I was not angry with him, just sorry for him, and he hasn't replied to a single thing I've said since. Hm. Maybe it's worth a shot? 

  

  

He is, indeed, someone to be pitied.  Such a warped perspective must be born from a very unhappy person.
 
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December 29, 2005, 2:32 pm PST

house full of love

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 In my opinion a perfect wife, is when you walk into a house and the house is full of love, 

and if the house happens to be clean or the wife happens to be attractive, then thats extra icing on the cake.  

There is no such thing as real "perfection", because perfection is in the eye of the beholder, however being real starts from the inside.    

The imperfections in all of us, is what makes us all different from one another, and it's the imperfections that we so fondly remember when our love ones are no longer with us. 

Yes, a house full of love makes for a wonderful (if not perfect) family.  The house may not always be spotless, but not a day goes by that I don't say "I love you" to my sweet husband. I would rather linger over dinner with the family sharing stories about their respective days than rush into cleaning the dishes or doing other household chores.  And, by the way, he will help with things such as clearing the table, not because he is asked to, but because he knows that at the end of the day I am just as tired as he is. We respect eachother and are tuned into eachother's needs.  I wouldn't wish  it to be  any other way.
 
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December 29, 2005, 3:03 pm PST

12/28 Wifestyles

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That's not true at all. Staying at home means you are doing a job that will never be finished. I'm not a wife, but I would feel incredibly insulted if my husband wanted me to take time out for him because he felt tired after 8 hours of working. Try 24 hours, and also knowing you don't get weekends, holidays, or sick days. That's a real job.
There has to be a balance and respect for one another in the marriage committment. My husband works a full time job as well as a side job (his choice) helping out a friend. I am home taking care of the home and family which I absolutely love and enjoying doing, but BOTH of us realize that parenting and maintaining a home is a 24/7 job and for one to do it all is just insane!...My husbnad is now working nights and becasue he helps his frined out as well, he doesn't get home til about 4 in the morning, he hangs out all by himsefl then he goes to bed about 5, sleeps til noon and gets up and that gives him two hours to be with us, we have left overs for lunch and we play together as a family. He then goes to work and I am here at home. Of course he has days off in which he helps with the kids and yep, even some house hold projects, I cook two nice meals (most of the time) or we go out for dinner as a family. My husband helps give baths to the kids and he reads and plays with them. They love being daddy's little helpers which gives me an opportunity to go out all by myself for a bit. Like today, I got up, took care of the girls and played some with them, hubby got up and I took off ! I treated myself to some lunch and took a walk in Kmart and was able to buy some party stuff for my little one, picked up lunch for the family and went on home. It has been a wonderful day. My husband is now out with a friend and will be home late but what is so wonderful is that he has the respect for me to know that I am a human being and his wife who he loves and honors and knows that I need my time out as well as he does and becasue he is a wonderful father and husband, I know that my children are in good hands with him so I can feel comfortable going out and my children have a father that they are bonded to.If my husabnd were one of those guys who believe women are there ONLY to serve him and the only one responsible for the home and family, I sure the heck wouldn't trust him to take care of my kids for in my eyes he would be a bad father, probably allow the little ones to get into things and put them in front of the tube all day long. My children have a great relatonship with their father and I believe it is becasue of his attitude and respect for his household......That is what marriage is, love, honor and respect. Helping one another and at the same time knowing and meeting the needs of each other and the desire to WANT to do these things. Marriage is about the husband and wife, not just about one or the other. it takes two to have a strong marriage and with out the two working together, the marriage will basically be one sided and it WILL fail or at least, not be a happy one. MEn and women are to love and respect one another and when this happens, believee me, the honey moon can continue, may not always be perfect and may have some down times but for me, I have been married going on 13 years and we are still honey mooning, it is possible. And for those of you quoting the BIble, I am a Christian who serves a wonderful loving Heavenly Father and my husband is also a very Godly guy, therefore he loves and respects his wife as He is commanded to do, for I know that just like Christ loved the church so much, he died for it, I know that my husband would give His life for me, and that is love. I honor my husband by being there for him and at the same time, we are here meeting EACH OTHER's needs and desires. Gotta work both ways.
 

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December 29, 2005, 3:20 pm PST

*screams in terror*

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   I am in no way trying to start an arguement with anyone.  I was just a little bothered by one of your remarks.  "IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man."  I do firmly believe this because it is in the BIBLE.  And I wholeheartedly believe the bible.  With that said, I am in no way a doormat to my husband.  I choose to do all the laundry and cook all the meals but that is because I stay home with our kids.  It's the least I can do for him.  But when he gets home if I haven't felt well or had a rough day and dinner isn't made there is definitely no fights.  He is more than willing to come home and make dinner or at least help with making dinner.  He understands that just because I am a "Stay at home MOM" doesn't mean I sit around all day and watch soaps or the DR Phil show.  I actually record the show and watch it later in the night while I am in bed.  And just another note...Woman actually means.."from man" so yes dear you were made from man.  God created Eve WITH Adam's rib.  If you weren't made from man what were you made from??  Just a question.  I am happy that you are married to a caring individual and that he is willing to help.  But just because I believe what you don't doesn't mean that My husband isn't willing to help.  He is more than willing.  We share all the household cleaning equally.  Yes during the week I keep the house neat and clutter free, but come the weekend we are BOTH cleaning the house.  I wish you the best of luck in your marriage and GOD BLESS 

This post absolutely terrifies me.  

The U.S. is certainly far behind other developed nations that know about evolution and aren't religious fanatics who believe that the Bible should be interpreted literally. You're insane if you truly believe that there really was an Adam and Eve and that she came from his rib. You're no less ignorant than some forest native who believes in rain gods & thinks sacrifices will end droughts.  

  

I do believe that if a woman stays at home she makes a better mother. I think if you're simply a wife, that shouldn't be the reason why you stay at home while your husband works. You should be doing something with your time. But if you're a mother, it is certainly better if you stay home with your kids. It is a very difficult job as it is, and mothers who work just do not put as much as they need to into their kids. I think the importance of the relationship between mother and child is more important with regard to a wife staying home than the relationship between the wife & husband. If it was just a wife & husband, it would be perfectly reasonable in this day and age for the wife to work, because she doesn't have the burdensome chores that women had back in the day in order to keep the house clean, the firewood gathered, the gardens hoed, etc. Modern convenience allows women the free time to work outside the home, BUT when there are children in the picture, I think a mother should be there for her kids as much as possible & when women try to be superwomen, they end up being mediocre at both, or neglecting one thing to do better at the other.  

  

And by the way, evolution explains all of this, if any of you who don't "believe in" it actually would bother to go educate yourselves beyond the "humans came from monkeys" thing that you're all so offended by. Human behavior can be explained very thoroughly through evolution, animal behavior, etc. Oh yeah, and we're all animals too. Even your bible-thumping can be explained by animal behavior and evolutionary science. We haven't moved as far beyond the rest of the animal kingdom as many ignorant religious fanatics would like to think. 

 
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