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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 14, 2005, 7:35 pm PDT

why?

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Yes, I have chronic PTSD because I have not only been railroaded for horrible crimes I never committed, with 2 accusers spending 15 years in prison for unrelated reason, but I also have chronic PTSD because I have been the victim of many violent crimes and violated more times that I  can count. 

  

Despite it all, with years of therapy I have found a certain peace when I am home and somehow God has blessed me with the gift of laughter and making people laugh.  I  just wish I would stop getting burned but people like you keep the smile and laughter coming. 

  

God Bless YOU! 

I wonder why this happens to some of us? Just as we get up weak with suffering, another wave comes and knocks us down. I figure it's because it is very hard to recover from other people's cruelty. Everything is about wrong and right. When somoeone does wrong, it can devastate people they don't even know. This is why no man is an island. Miserable little children turn into adults who can only do wrong. It is important to raise nice kids with a sense of what is right and good. It isnt enough to just have a few people doing this. We have to all do it.  

  

I wish you the very, very best. 

 
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October 14, 2005, 7:38 pm PDT

thank you

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Families usually believe their child, right or wrong.   Brandy's parents want to portray their daughter as this sweet, innocent child.  This child stole their car, left the house without their knowledge while they were asleep, ran a boy over (knocking his body 58 ft), tried to cover it up, and went back home and parked the car.  That doesn't sound very innocent to me.  If this boy was so abusive, like she says, why would she go to his house alone?  For everybody out there that has been abused, just because you were abused, doesn't mean that she was.  I have been in an abusive relationship, but I don't believe Brandy.  Even if she was  previously abused by him, it has nothing to do with what happened that night.  It wasn't a case of self defense or something.   

  

She said that she went back to give him his skate that was left in her car.  If she was going to give him the skate, why would she need to drive so fast.  If somebody jumps in front of your car, and you hit them, wouldn't you stop and see how they were?  If you thought that the person was dangerous and you were afraid to stop, because he was threatening you, wouldn't you tell your parents, the police or somebody, instead of covering up the crime?  She said that he jumped in front of the car, and she also said that she didn't know what she had hit.  Which is it?  If she saw him jump in front of the car, wouldn't she know what she had hit?  Sounds like a lie to me.  Don't forget the tire tracks in the yard.   Friends and family, a lot of times, just don't want to see the truth.  That's why child molestation has gone on for so long.  Some people see what they want to see.  Brandy did not seem at all remorseful to me.   I thought that she was just putting on an act, trying to lie her way out of jail.   

  

I think that it is really mean and unfeeling for Brandy's parents to be angry at the boy's parents.  Like his mother and sister said, they lost their child, and their daughter did it.  Whether she did it intentionally or not, her family should still have compassion for their loss.   He will never be back with them.  Brandy can breathe, eat, speak, and go on with her life.  The boy's family don't have the luxury of seeing their child again.   Brandy's family does.  Their grief is not the same, in my opinion. 

i am so glad that you accually paid attention to what little facts this show did disclose! FACTS ARE FACTS you can't change them
 
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October 14, 2005, 7:58 pm PDT

You were doing drugs?

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Two Topics in one.  First of all, many people whether they are innocent or truly guilty go the plea bargain route because in the case of a violent crime situation, most juries give the maximum sentence to "us regular folks".  Prosecuters weigh what might save the court system thousands of dollars in trials and try to get some punishment that a defendant will probably take. In this girl's situation (Brandi), her parents should have edited any and all motions/plea agreements that their lawyer was to submit before she signed them.  Her true innocence or guilt has no bearing to me - I just feel that people need to edit their lawyer's actions as much as they would their CPA or any other service profession that deals with important situations (especially one's life). 

  

Secondly, on a personal note, everyday, I have to see the woman who helped put my husband in prison for manufacturing methamphetimine.  At one time, we were heavily involved in drug use.  This woman helped raise my husband and he trusted her.  She wore a wire on him for close to a year.  She also wore one on me trying to get me to go with her to steal things to make meth with (I said no).  I was not married to him at the time.  She and her husband (who also wore a wire) deliver my newspaper every morning.  The newspaper says that they are the only way I can subscribe to the local paper.  I HAD to get over them because they were damaging ME.  We live in a very rural environment.  Once, she started turning around in my driveway, I called the newspaper office and told them why she should not do that because I might snap.  She does not anymore.  However, if I did not let it go, I would have eventually hurt her with a violent outrage - then, she would have won.  Dr. Phil is so right - people have to let things go for their own benefit or the other people "own" them.  I lost my husband for several years and it is difficult making it on my own on his farm with 12 hour shifts and all the farm work; however, the funny thing is that those narcs really saved my husband's and my life and our marriage.  It also got us off drugs.  The best revenge is living good. 

 And he was manufacturing meth?  And you BLAME the person who got the goods on him?!?  Oh, for pete's sake!  This is the absolute ULTIMATE in irresponsibility and passing the buck.  You and your husband were DRUG ADDICTS.  And you expect loyalty?!?  OMG, I thought I'd seen the dregs, but this takes the cake. 

I turned my own daughter in for drug use, and had her kids removed from her custody.  It was the best move I ever made. She straightened up, got her life back in order (somewhat, as much as she ever will), got off the drugs, and EARNED her children back.  And I'd do it again in a heartbeat if it would save my grandchildren from the hell they were living in. 

I have absolutely NO use for drug addicts whatsoever. Especially meth addicts.
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:04 pm PDT

Thank you for your sympathy but

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i feel awful for your situation and wouldn't wish it on anyone! BUT i was there that night as the 1 and ONLY witness and this is not a false accusation! I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES AND I FEEL BAD FOR BRANDI'S FAMILY BUT I AM NOT GOING TO KEEP QUIET! IT HAS AFFECTED MY LIVE MORE THEN ANYONE WILL EVER KNOW

I have a question.  If you were a witness, did you have to give a deposition about what you saw?  Also, according to the prosecution there was a witness but they discredited them as supposedly a crackhead.  Why have we not heard of your report to the police or the deposition?  Not saying your lying just feel a few answers might be in order. 

  

Also, I truly thank you for your sympathy. 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:13 pm PDT

An answer to your question

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I wonder why this happens to some of us? Just as we get up weak with suffering, another wave comes and knocks us down. I figure it's because it is very hard to recover from other people's cruelty. Everything is about wrong and right. When somoeone does wrong, it can devastate people they don't even know. This is why no man is an island. Miserable little children turn into adults who can only do wrong. It is important to raise nice kids with a sense of what is right and good. It isnt enough to just have a few people doing this. We have to all do it.  

  

I wish you the very, very best. 

I believe I have an answer to your question.  Basically you seem to be asking why horrible things happen to good people.  The answer is this:  God gave us free will.  Some of us do wonderful things with our free will while others use their free will for evil purposes and innocent people are victimized. 

  

Remember, we are fighting powers and principalities, not flesh and blood.  When God have us free will He gave us a double edged sword. 

  

I wish more people knew this because the very question of "how could a good and loving God allow such bad things to happen" has turned many people away from the blessings God can give.  God isn't  cold, nonexistent or unaffected, it is because He gave man free will.  If more people understood this than maybe people would put blame where it belongs, among humanity that has fallen, not because God is vengeful or because he doesn't exist. 

  

I pray in the name of Jesus that this reaches the people who need to hear it most and I pray it strikes a chord in them that at least gets them to seek out the truth as it is written in the Bible, not by secular critics. 

  

Railroaded in Northridge -- Teri 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:18 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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I WAS THERE.
with your back turned you saw nothing as you said you heard the accident you didnt see it
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:20 pm PDT

Awfulcute

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I wonder why this happens to some of us? Just as we get up weak with suffering, another wave comes and knocks us down. I figure it's because it is very hard to recover from other people's cruelty. Everything is about wrong and right. When somoeone does wrong, it can devastate people they don't even know. This is why no man is an island. Miserable little children turn into adults who can only do wrong. It is important to raise nice kids with a sense of what is right and good. It isnt enough to just have a few people doing this. We have to all do it.  

  

I wish you the very, very best. 

I also wish you the very best and my the Lord Jesus bring a peace that passes understanding in helping you to process something you can really never get over.  If you knew my story you would know I will never get over this unless the judicial system finally has a little justice for me.
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:22 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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I have a question.  If you were a witness, did you have to give a deposition about what you saw?  Also, according to the prosecution there was a witness but they discredited them as supposedly a crackhead.  Why have we not heard of your report to the police or the deposition?  Not saying your lying just feel a few answers might be in order. 

  

Also, I truly thank you for your sympathy. 

I did give my deposition! there was supposedly a witness that came forward for Brandi's case that lived in the park and that is who was supposedly discredited! Brandi's mother and Crystal Daniels sister both stated i was a witness on the show. But brandi's mother also stated that someone else came forward and said they saw it to and that who was supposedly discredited!  I am not out to get brandi and i truly feel for her family! I know they have lost their daughter also but Brandi did bring it on herself by not just telling the truth! with the whole abuse thing i can't even comment because i wasn't inthier relationship BUT  i was with daniel for almost a year! We also lived together for over half the time and and never any with me.  They were together for almost 3 months and daniel broke up 2 days proir to this with her because i was expecting. (not going there for my daughters safety) I just want people to not stop thinking about the true victim in this case which is the deceased!  

DANIEL LEE MIZE  

  

i have never met brandi so i can't say what kind of person she is but i sure hope she is not the one I SEE IN MY NIGHTMARES FROM THAT NIGHT 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:24 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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with your back turned you saw nothing as you said you heard the accident you didnt see it

NO I SAW EVERYTHING THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T SEE WAS WHERE DANIEL LANDED! THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS 58 YRS AWAY! CRYSTAL WAS THE ONE WHO DIDN'T SEE IT! 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:25 pm PDT

Dear Brandi's Mom

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with your back turned you saw nothing as you said you heard the accident you didnt see it
Please find the message I wrote earlier, it may help you vindicate your daughter.  Do a search under the name terialane.  I wrote you a message with evidence to be tested that may free your daughter.
 
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