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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 1:13 pm PDT

forgiving

 Well here is my opinion,first of all I do belive she is still responsble, and I also havebeen around a long tme and have been in alot of  good and bad situationsmyself both as abused and  not abused and I feel i can see both sides of this awful situation.
For one maybe im being judgemntal but arent we all? I for one see the parents of the son as coming off hateful and rude and not at all together.I feel for there loss as a mother of 3 ,3 being boys.
But I also want to know why thye dont take repsonbilty as well for there sons actions towards thso young lady to.
If he was abusing her and tormenting her,why wasnt it stopped sooner,and i cna tell you from being there when a abuser abueses they do not think clear and do act irationally and i belive he could have jumped in front of the car to stop her or to kill himself over the loss.also I think even if guilty god says to forgive and to be ashe is in his image.its easy to make mistakes especially when your young you dont think clear and ratinally the brain in front were u make choices is not even fully grown yet.belive me my teens 15 16 17 dont think often clear and while thank god they are good kids who do not do drug or drink and i know were they are at all times they have made mistake and i as a parent am responble to make sure they learn from them.
My sons being oldest ar emost trying times being teensand boys.i teach them about women adn that when soemone breaks up with u they do so and that is it u cannot stalk and harras them and by know means hit a woman no matter what.
You do not stalk them or threten them and u respect a persons choices no matter howmuch it hurts u move on.
so were are these parents learning,what are they teaching ther ekids?
ths is a tragic situation but i feel if the parents of the boy taughtther eosn better it could have been avoided.when u been abused and u feel trapped and scared you do not think clear ur shock and u just know u have to survive at all costs,and i do agree is respobilty she stil lneeds to do soem time but i belive she was scared and i belive he jumped i nfront of the car not thinking clear hi self.
sorry for my typing i have ra and fibro and typeing can be painful and hard for me but this story upset me alot.
I think that we as parents have to teach our children to stand up take what they deserve but also we have to teach them what is rigth and what is wrong and i think both these kids were in the wrong and the parents should understand how both sides feel and learn to fogive and teach there remaing children what is right and whats not.
i think the boys family are violent and nasty and need to calm down and look at what there son has done to and learn to fogive and i think the girls parents need to let her take responbilty and remain loving and supportive and teach her not to be in abuseive situations or get help.
my herat goes out to both sides.I tel lmy boys if you ever kill soemone i will be so angry and hurt but iam ur mother i will always love you.and you know what i have taught youand you always remember that.
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October 13, 2005, 1:13 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

This episode broke my heart and prompted me to register and then respond on the message boards. I was a friend of 2 friends both killed in a similar accident. They were playing and it became out of control. It happened in a blinking moment, and many people wanted to point fingers to try and channel the hurt into anger. 

BOTH of these families are suffering in an indescribable way. And I dont think ANYBODY could possibly weigh out who is suffering more. I think its completely ludacris for Daniel's family to say they are suffering more, just as ridiculous as it is for Brandi's family to say THEY are suffering more. Who cares about the relationship these teens had? They are TEENAGERS, and I can't believe the hate and anger grown adults are directing at an girl who was involved in a terrible situation at 18. 18 years old.....a teenager. 

  

An eye for an eye makes the world blind. It seems that one family is coping with scrutiny, blame, hate and pointed fingers, while another is coping with some kind of justification or equal trade. There IS NO equal trade....and regardless of the years in a prison sentence...it will NEVER be enough, because there is just no equal trade. Something terrible happened.... and putting forth the effort to make an already miserable family even more miserable as a means of channelling anger....is nothing but bad outcomes. What does this family really think the stop point will be.... because I know even if Brandi served the 25 years they would still feel it is insufficient. They seem to keep justifying it by 'she's alive and has her life' .... would they feel better if she weren't? Very scary.... I think both families need a regular psychologist...especially Daniel's.... 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:13 pm PDT

It's great Brandi has such a loyal friend!

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Ok, Brandi is my best friend. She has been my best friend since the 6th grade. This was totally an accident. Daniel had told her he would kill her if she didn't go to his house that night.  He is the one who jumped in front of the car. She has served her time, she has done everything she can do in jail, she got her G.E.D., and she has taken all of the classes they told her she had to take. Daniel's mother kicked him out when he was 13years old. She is a nut case. Brandi was a cheerleader and a straight A student. She was in a bad position. She was so in love with him and he treated her like crap! But you can't help who you fall in love with. She derves to come home. Please pray for her she has had a hard life trying to live with this accident and she needs her family and friends while she is in there she isn't getting any better just worse! I love you Brandi! Your best friend Summer

Summer,  

that is awsome your so loyal and willing to be Brandi's voice as she doesn't seem to have much of one right now.  Remember the other family is hurting just as you and Brandi's family.  I really don't think that you need to be judge, or condemned for being her friend.  This seems so tragic.  I caught the fact right at the begining that Brandi was suffering in an abusive relationship.  I have a question Summer, did that even come up in the trial?  If not why?   

Hopefully you can turn a check to all the negative posters... keep your loyalty!  I wouldn't change a word I have wroten.. even if Brandi confided in you that she did it on purpose... which I am not asking... I feel that is between her and God.  Something we all seem to forget!  What my point is that is you need to keep being her freind no matter what... that is going to help her survive!   Keep believing in her!  God is by her side and hasn't stopped loving her, please let her know that!   

Take care Summer and prayers to all involved. 

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:13 pm PDT

Suicide?

I think I heard someone say Daniel had threatened to commit suicide if she left him.  He didn't seem like a very stable person - what with the abuse and threats, etc. Could he have jumped in front of the car as a suicide attempt?  If it was out of vengeance toward her, he sure succeeded.  (That she would get blamed for his death)  Four years after the fact, Daniel's family is still stuck in the revenge mode.  They need some counseling or join a "Parents of Murdered Children" group or something, so they don't waste their entire lives over this.  Seems it has become their "identity."  Sad on both sides...
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:13 pm PDT

she knew

       I have to say I feel for both families however,I think Brandi knew what she was doing I honestly didnt see any TRUE remorse.If I "accidently" hit someone I was in love with or knewor hell didt know, anyone with any human instincts would stop and try to help and stay for the cops to come and do whatever is humanly possible.She didnt.She went on home with a "blank" mind.Who in there right mind has a "blank"mind after they hit another human being?I mean he had a family a life a name he wasnt a cat or something.She knew exactly what she was doing that night in my opinion.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:13 pm PDT

Brandi and Daniel

I am wondering why they never submitted Brandi and Daniel's sister to lie detector tests about their stories. That could help determine which story is closer to the truth. The parents say that Brandi didn't realize she hit Daniel and she thought she hit something else so she went home and wrecked the car further to make her parents feel that somebody else did it, but in jail Brandi admitted she knew she hit Daniel and she was in shock. As much as I would live to believe Brandi, it's hard because there are so many holes in her story just from being on Dr. Phil. My heart goes out to the family of both of the people involved in this tragedy. I wish them both peace.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:14 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Suicide is still considered a crime. And helping someone kill themselves is a crime as well. So why should she go free? EITHER WAY, he couldn't have died without her.
That is just the most obsured thing I have ever read.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:14 pm PDT

she should be free..

 clearly he jumped infront of the car she can not be blamed for his suicide that is very clear .. and how is she supposed to stop from going 65mph when he jumped in front of her i am on her side and of course like Dr. Phil said only she and the young man who died know what happend ..
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:14 pm PDT

I am absolutely DISGUSTED

I cannot believe how ignorant and selfish Brandi's parents are. The showed no decency to the fact that this family has lost a child forever, and they attacked his family to no end. They had no right to say that Daniel's mother was not in his life for 5 years....that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they are suffering immensely for what their daughter did to their family. 

They got very defensive when his family said that at least they can spend Birthdays with their daughter, and talk to her.....they responded with "NO WE CAN'T!"..........YES THEY CAN!!! In 8 years they can sit down and have a coffee with their daughter everyday if they wanted, while Daniel's will never be able to!!! What don't these IGNORANT people understand about that?????? 

I am immensely disgusted in them and their selfishness....shame on them. Do they not find it a LITTLE suspicious how their daughter was sane enough to drive home and stick a TREE LIMB in the hole in the windshield that was caused upon impact with Daniel...sounds like someone who is guilty to me. I cannot emphasize how angry I am with that family right now, they obviously have never experienced a death of someone very dear to them. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:14 pm PDT

My heart goes out to Daniels's Family

To Daniel's family: 

I watched today's show and was horrified at the story.  It is all so tragic.  In my opinion, this young girl knew what she was doing.  From the facts Dr. Phil gave,(fact she had to be driving a certain speed to throw his body so far, fabricating a false story to cover up car damage) I cannot see how anyone would believe this girl did not realize she hit a human being!!!!!!!!!  Regardless, even if she had not known, which I doubt, she would feel impact from a hit and should have the brains to stop and check out what she had hit.  For the family to think she should get out early, I don't think that is an option.  This girl took a life and Daniels life should not be in vain, by letting this girl out.  Why take a plea bargain if you are innocent and can prove it?  I know I sure as hell would not, if my life was on the line.  This young lady needs to own her REAL responsibility, do her time and try to move on with her life.  Daniel will not be comming back, but remember, if you have faith, you will see him again.  You need to believe that.  If you ever need anyone to talk to feel free to email me at hotlyps1978@hotmail.com.  Try to find peace, and don't let this tragedy consume you and only make you have bad thoughts and negativity.  I know your loved one would not want this.  People bashing him, saying he is abusive, where is the proof?  I never heard any police reports on him abusing her on the show.  Have faith family, God will help you heal if you let him. 

 
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