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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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March 16, 2006, 7:49 am PST

03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

 I feel for Brandi and her family.  unfortunately because she did not go to trial she did not get justice.  I agree with Brandi's father.  Daniel's family is looking to get revenge rather than justice.  The family needs to ask themselves "What would Daniel want in this situation?"  I am sure that Daniel would not want the families to continue to quarrel in this manner.  Nor would Daniel want for Brandi to serve 12 years for this painful mistake.  I believe she accidentally ran him over and out panic tried to cover it up.  Under the advice of her attorney she took a plea bargain and that changed her life forever.  The American system is suppose to prove justice in any situation.  However, it sometimes fails and needs the support of citizens to get it back on track.  I was dissapointed that Dr. Phil did not offer any information on the case for those willing to help.  An address for the local congressman would have been nice.  Or the last names involved in the case.  Then I cook have looked up the information.
Brandi and Daniel's family will forever be touched by such an event.  However Daniel's family needs to get past their greif and forgive so that it doesn't consume their life.  I have never known a family so wiling to take another life to pay for their loss.  This is overwhelming.  Their loss must be tremedous.  Brandi's life is not the equivlent value of Daniel's life.  How can they feel that if Brandi served a life sentece they would feel better.  I believe they are simply seeking revenge and need to close their eyes and acknowledge the truth and eveidence in the reports and try to sort out the truth of that night.  In order to do this they must all close their thoughts to prior beliefs and open their minds to all the physical evidence in the case. 
 

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March 16, 2006, 7:51 am PST

What's the point?

I don't get your focus here Dr. Phi. The fact is the girl is serving the time she was given, I'm not sure why you start the show as if something coming out now could change that. Your focus should be helping these families deal with what is. Life is unfair. Maybe it is unfair and serving her whole sentence doesn't seem to serve a purpose to you or to them or to anyone but it's not up for discussion or change. A jury already decided that. Accept it. How many other families out there are dealing with similar issues and you aren't running to their rescue. If they came to you for help, help them deal with the issues within their control not letting them just spout off to one another. I am frustrated with the wasted time on this show. It seems to me that the girl's family can control what is happening to them. She is in for twelve years, what good does it do to eat yourself up with missing her, taking pills and wallowing in self pity making yourself sick and angry. So there it is in the last 7 minutes of the show that you are finally saying what you should have been saying from the beginning instead of letting them go through this tirade. Say it Phil, you know what to say, you just should have spent more time during this show in saying what you needed to say. What that girl or her family or his family had to say, helped noone.
 

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March 16, 2006, 7:51 am PST

Planting seeds of hope

In 1995, Tariq Khamisa, a 19 yr. old San Diego State University college student was delivering pizza, and he was shot and killed by Tony, a 14 year old gang member. Believing that there were “victims at both ends of the gun”, Azim Khamisa, Tariq’s father, reached out in forgiveness to Tony’s grandfather and guardian, Ples Felix, to begin the process of healing. TKF http://www.tkf.org/ is a non profit organization dedicated to breaking the epidemic of youth violence. Through TKF’s school-based nonviolence programs, Azim Khamisa and Ples Felix speak to elementary and middle school children about gangs, violence, revenge, and the importance of becoming “peacemakers”. Tony pled guilty and was the first minor in the country to be tried as an adult. He was given 30 years with parole possible in 15. Azim went to meet Tony in prison a few years after the crime was committed. They had a very emotional meeting, and Azim offered Tony a job at the Foundation when his prison term is ended. Tony has obtained his GED and is now taking college classes. He lives with the consequences of his actions every day. What happened between Brandi and Daniel was not gang-related, but the day of this event, both families lost a child. Brandi is alive, but she is not the girl she was before this occurred. From what I saw on the show, the world lost 9 people that day, as there is not one member of either family that has recovered from the event, and all seem to harbor hatred towards someone. I am disappointed that the Dr. Phil show, with all their resources, did not provide a panel of families who have experienced the exact same tragedy. There are many, many of them, and a great number of them have found peace in each others eyes, arms and hearts. I work with perpetrators and victims www.systemicfamilysolutions.com and have many colleagues around the country who do as well. There is help available, and although I did not hear Dr. Phil offer it in this case, I hope that both families will take steps to begin to heal. all the best to you, sheila
 
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March 16, 2006, 7:59 am PST

03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

     This may or may not have been an accident.  Brandi's Mother and Father have no empathy for Daniel's family and are attacking them.  How can they be so insensitive.  Brandi is the only one who knows the truth, the whole truth and I hope she doesn't continue to black that out of her memory.  The facts are that she went to the residence to see Daniel she struck Daniel with the car and knew that (she said she didnt want to think about it) and she left the scene.  She stated she was afraid he was still alive (so she did know what she did).  She went home and was able to compose herself and tell her Father an outrageous lie that he believed.  An innocent or remorseful person would not have been able to lie after thinking about everything that happened and be so composed. Brandi's parents are blinded and don't want to see the truth.  I feel they need to face the truth and accept that Brandi was responsible for this incident.   If they keep lying to their selves their life is going to become more out of control.  Brandi's mother is probably having health problems because of not accepting that her daughter murdered Daniel. They have no empathy for Daniel's family and should be thankful their daughter is alive.  I feel sad for Brandi's brother who is the most affected in their family, I hope he gets outside help.  My heart goes out to Daniel's family for their loss.  And I hope Brandi's parents wake up soon for their own good.  I think Brandi is going to be just fine and I hope she is remorseful but I didn't see that on the show.   Jamie   
 
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March 16, 2006, 8:00 am PST

COME ON!! GIVE ME A BREAK.. They don't care about what happened...

These people truly have issues.  

I understand they have lost a son/brother.  But if he had any of the hate that they are exhibiting on the show, then YES I do believe that he was abusive, and I do believe that this was an accident.  

This mother of Daniel, she is really killing me... 

She is hell bent on being bitter.  Yes, she has a right to be hurt, that was her son, but is she grieving?  It seems to me she is more interested in pointing the finger at someone else and justifying her anger then really trying to find out what happened that night.   

Where was she at 2:00 in the morning when Brandi went over there?  Where was she when he was threatening to kill her and her brother...or even himself. What was going on at home to let him think this behavior was acceptable??  

This family has some problems..If you can't see it , then you are crazy. 

The daughter is hateful, the Mother is hateful, the Dad is just a mess...what is it????? 

Maybe if they could get past the Hate, and revenge they are seeking, they can see this for what it is...a horrific accident!!!!!  

Her Attorney was incompetent.  I would call the Bar Association and file a complaint.  He committed malpractice by not sharing with her the terms of the plea bargain.  At 17  you will not know your rights if you don't ask...How is she supposed to know if that plea bargain was good?   

I would file a complaint citing ineffective counsel.  

He mislead her..She may be 17  and considered an adult, but she is a child. Not even out of high school. What is she supposed to know about a plea bargain? Last time I checked they didn't teach that subject in school! 

You know, she is going to go to jail for 12 years, and these child molesters are doing 60 days and coming out violating another child. 
If Daniels mother would put her energies into maybe volunteering at a Domestic Violence shelter, so she could learn the signs of abuse,  she would be better because of it.  

  

I do feel Brandi's family came on there and conducted themselves accordingly.   

Daniels family came on to attack..It is not going to bring Daniel back by attacking her family.  

Oh God, How I wish I could talk to them.  

 
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March 16, 2006, 8:01 am PST

Heartache

We will never know what occurred on that night--none of us.  The only two people who knows are those two who was there--and one is no longer with us on this earth.   

This is a terrible/tragic incident--and the most terrible thing is for a mother to bury her child.  That is not how it is supposed to be.   

Personally I can see both sides of this incident--but I could not make a decision on what happened-nor would I want to.  Because I am sure there is much more to this story that what we know--No matter who is guilty--There is only one person--our God up above knows the true!! 

I know both families are suffering terribly--and both families need much help in dealing with this incident. To help them begin healing and going on with their lives. 

My heart aches as a mother for both of these mothers.  I would not want to be in either one of those mothers shoes. 

Stay strong--and be safe and hold your children close--because in a blink of an eye--they can be gone. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 8:01 am PST

Reply to this person who's heart goes out to Brandi

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My heart goes out to Brandi since she is the one that is suffering the most out of this ordeal.  To be only 17 and having your life completely riped from underneath you can be very traumatic. Most 17 years olds are thinking about friends and what college they are going to go to. I can understand how Daniel's family feels about there lose but to have a one sided opinion of what happened is nieve on there part.  What if indeed he did walk out in front of her car out of a fit of rage and she did accidentally hit him it is not her fault.  He should have been smart enough to just let her go and be on his way.  I feel bad for Brandi cause what is a girl to do when she is scared and afraid for her life.  I had an abusive boyfriend my freshman year of highschool and he threatened me with my life and my families and towards the end I was doing practicully everything he told me to cause I was scared.  I didn't have enough sense to think that I didn't have to do what he said and I could just walk away.  If she was being abused then I can see her doing what he wanted.  Brandi I understand your pain and  the fear that you felt in your relationship.  I wish that I can learn more about what happened so I can really have a clear understanding for what happened.   

From what I saw on the show I think that Brandi is genuwine in her plea that she is innocent.  I mean there is a chance that she is guilty but in out society today is seems that you are guilty until proven innocent.  There are so many people that are in jail and prison today that are truely innocent because people didn't look to the possibilities that maybe that person is telling the truth.   

She is not the one suffering most out of this ordeal, Daniel's family is.  They lost a child and that is the most horrible thing on earth.  She is not innocent because she did hit him, accident or not, and he is dead as a result.  That fact alone makes her guilty.  If she was afraid for her life then it makes NO sense to go over to his house alone. She wasn't too scared because scared people don't voluntarily go to the person they are soooo afraid of.  She left the scene, she did not even call for help.  That would have made it seem more like an accident but she left him there to die without trying to save his life.  Yeah right she thought that if she checked on him that he would kill her, at the least, he was badly hurt and would have been physically unable to hurt her so that is bull to say that she was scared to check on him.  She even concocted a story about how the window was smashed to her family.  How can they explain away that lie?  They can't.  It's messed up that you feel sorry for a hit and run person that killed someone.  Do you feel sorry for everyone that hits and kills someone and runs away from it, lies about it, and covers it up??  I think your values are screwed up and I hope myself and my children are not around when you are on the road because if you were to hit someone with your car, accident or not, by saying that Brandi is innocent, you're saying it's okay to drive away, not call for help, and let the person die right there on the street.  You need to re-evaluate your position because you are on the wrong side.  Look to my message posted on march 16th by "dezign" if you want to reply.  Or please reply to this because I would love your response to what I've said.
 
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March 16, 2006, 8:02 am PST

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I think it's amazing that when a 17 year old trys to make a decision for themselves that adults say, "You're only a baby...." But when they do something wrong, then it's "You're an adult...." Which is it people? 

I agree..I believe Brandi is too young and she's inocent..It was an accident
 
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March 16, 2006, 8:03 am PST

Shame on a killer and her family

It seems the killer(Brandi) and her family believe that a family that has lost a loved one in the most senseless and violent of ways does not have a right to seek revenge within the justice system. Nothing wrong with revenge as long as it is pursued within the judicial system, and a wrong has been done and remedial sentence or action available. Note that at the end of the sentence the killer(Brandi), gets to go home. On the other hand the victims family have lost once and forever the companionship of their loved one. Just keeping things in perspective
 
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March 16, 2006, 8:03 am PST

awful tragedy

I feel truly sad for both families. I saw something similar on the Oprah show. It was called "A father faces the teen who killed his family". He felt the same way Sheila felt, but had come to realize that the only way he and his sons could move on with their lives was to forgive this teen boy (Justin). Justin was a good boy who made one bad decision. The man (Bruce) went to talk to Justin in jail to openly tell him how he felt. Bruce and Justin cried.  Justin asked for forgiveness and told Bruce that for the rest of his life he would have to live with this guilt.  Bruce then went to the courts to help Justin get a reduced sentence.  Bruce said by forgiving Justin he and his sons were able to heal and move forward.  I wish Sheila could meet Bruce, maybe he could help her and her family in some way to heal. It would be sad for either family to live the rest of their lives being angry.
 
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