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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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March 16, 2006, 4:11 pm PST

A Crying Shame

I am so sorry for both families having to contend with their individual grief.  I am a mother of three children, two girls and a boy.  When my daughters were dating they too had experienced bad relationships with boys who were dominating.  One daughter made the mistake of marrying this person and regretting it, finally ending in a divorce.  The other daughter had a horrible bout of depression after he broke up with her.  They were both physically and mentally abused. Their self worth was damaged by these young men.  Of course Dad and I tried everything we could to help them through their ordeals.  It is so sad that there are so many of these relationships like this out there.  Sadly this one turned into a tragedy. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:15 pm PST

Daniel's Family very suspect!

Dr. Phil, 

  

I watched the show on "Cheerleader Scandal" and I must say and this may sound callous. But, Daniel's mom's crying and grief almost seemed fake and over the top. I had a relative who would act like that when she wanted all the attention or wanted someone to fell sorry for her. It just brought back memories. In your jail house interview with Brandi, she mentioned Daniel beating her. Could it be they knew he was abusing her physically/verbally and never did anything about it? Could it be they are angry at themselves? and what better way but to direct it at Brandi and her family. Don't get me wrong, this was a tradic incident. I wasn't there and don't know all the details. But, it was apparent from Daniel's mom and her words and posture that this is about getting back at Brandi and her family and not about justice for her son. They do have alot of anger, I just wonder really who they are angry with? Their son or themselves. Should Brandi be punished? Yes! But to what degree? If it truely was an accident, should not the truth come out? I have to say with today's justice system though, it would not surprise me if Brandi got bad advice from a public defender. Dr. Phil are you going to help get the truth out, to help mend these two families? 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:16 pm PST

Tragic lost!

I can't say that I believe Brandi's verison. But one thing that I would like to say is how sorry I am to Daniel's family for their loss. I'm really surprised that Brandi's family isn't showing more compassion to Daniel's family. I think Brandi knew what she did and I don't think she is being truthful to anyone. I think IF she told her parents "yes" I meant to hit him with the car they would be competely mortified. All the things she did that night started off with dishonesty. Sneaking out, telling her parents a lie about how the car was damaged. I have reason to believe she is lying to protect her family from shame. I think justice was not done in this case. Brandi got a slap on the hand. She's still alive and one day she will be free to walk our streets again. Daniel is DEAD and will never be able to be with his family again. We don't take the law into our own hands. I think the healing process can only begin when Brandi tells the TRUTH. I really think Dr. Phil did a great job dissecting the events that took place that night. He called her out. She was shocked by him and she showed very little "sincere" emotion about killing another human being. She seemed more emotional about hurting her family and sitting in prison. 
 

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March 16, 2006, 4:16 pm PST

I'm right there with ya

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I watched today's show and I have read some of the messages people have written. I am appauld that people think that she is a murderer, I beleive it was an accident and that she had a bum lawyer that just didn't represent her properly.  But because she was a minor it was up to her parents to provide the best defense they could, and they failed her, not the justice system.  As far as Daniel's parents and sister not giving Brandi a chance, I think Daniel's mom just won't give an inch in this case.  Brandi has stated that Daniel abused her, did his family know he was doing that, does Brandi's family have any information on that?  Many questions that can't be answered and even if they could it won't change the fact that he is dead, and even though Brandi is in prison she is also dead.  Were there police reports filed on Daniel for abuse, probably not.  It's unfortunate that this has destroyed two families but each is suffering in their own ways.  People need to forigve and move on, to Brandi's parents, she may be locked up but you have a son that is headed for trouble and needs guidance, look at h im and help him deal with his feelings or you might end up losing him as well. 
I agree with you one hundred percent.  Not once was there an attempt on Daniel's families part to apologize for the alleged abuse.  I think this was just a horrible accident.  I think maybe Daniel had some issues if he was threatening suicide and to kill her and her brother if she broke up with him.  If he was making all of these threats it shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone that he could have jumped in front of a moving car.  Just my opinion
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:17 pm PST

Death of a son

 Dr. Phi, 

In August of 2001, just 2 weeks before my son's 21st birthday, he was shot and killed on his way to a barbeque.  The one who shot him, had lived with us for a few months as he had been kicked out of his own home and had no where to go.  He came back after being gone for about a year.  I told my son that I didn't want him around any more as he was trouble.  My son and another of his friends were going to a barbeque at a friends home.  They picked up this kid to go with them.  This kid was in the back seat of the car. Had a gun with him that he loaded and then proceeded to shoot my son in the back of the head. 

I do know what the family that lost a son is going through.  I have felt the same way.  But because of my faith in the Lord and the hereafter, I know that my son is doing great on the other side.  I do not hate the kid that did this to my son.  I do not like what he did, and I know that he is where he needs to be in prison.  We found out that this same kid that killed my son has killed 2 more people, so he will never be on the streets again, which is a relief.  I do not give him room in my mind anymore.  I cannot control anything in his life and can only control my own life.  I have chosen to move on and do the best I can as nothing I do will ever bring my son back. 

My heart goes out to the families. 

  

Michele 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:18 pm PST

lvoing parents

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I don't understand how the girls parents can believe her story.  It makes no sense at all.  She signed a plea, pled in open court, didn't sue her attorney for malpractice, and now that she's served some time she doesn't like it.  The only way out for her is to blame her attorney and claim she was misinformed and coerced.  I'm sure she figured out this story after socializing with some experienced cons for 4 years. 
How in the world can you call Brandi's parents stupid for belieiving her story.  You weren't there, you don't h ave all the facts in front of you.  Are you a parent and if  you are I feel sorry for  your children because parents are supposed to support their children, where is your support if your child gets into trouble?  If anyone is angry its Daniel's mom for not being the best mom she could be for him, she feels guilty and that's why she is lashing out at Brandi, for her own stupidity of being a stupid mom and not loving her son unconditionally.  mom doesn't know all the story either, she wants her son to be the victim and nothing else.  I am sorry that Daniel is dead but I have no sympathy for the parents, there is more to the story than meets the eye.  Look at the wh ole picture and don't be so judgemental, two sides to every story.  But every one has their own mind and opinion I just believe yours is out to lunch.
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:18 pm PST

such sadness for both families

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I don't understand how the girls parents can believe her story.  It makes no sense at all.  She signed a plea, pled in open court, didn't sue her attorney for malpractice, and now that she's served some time she doesn't like it.  The only way out for her is to blame her attorney and claim she was misinformed and coerced.  I'm sure she figured out this story after socializing with some experienced cons for 4 years. 
I hope that both families open their hearts to God-May they find peace and forgiveness somewhere.  I would pray that the hardening of the hearts be softened.  I agree with Dr. Phil that sometime they are going to have to let their anger go-their lives will only get harder if they don't.  I feel bad for both families-and I pray that they will let the past be the past=what is happened has happened.  To lose a loved one is tragic especially the way they lost their son/brother.  But to go on with the horrible bitterness and anger is going to affect their lives forever if they let it.  On the other side the girl is sorry for what has happened-not that killing someone is right but my goodness-I just feel that everything she went through-is just terrible and that she got hung up with the wrong person.  I pray for her and her family.  What a sad situation!!!!!
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:18 pm PST

What was the issue?

Daniel's family didn't seem ready to be on the show as they did not seem concerned about whether or not Brandy actually meant to kill their son (which I assume was the point of the show?).  Anger and revenge should not be the issue- the truth should be.  All involved should realize that searching for the truth would show more respect for Daniel than arguing and carrying on about things that they aren't even sure of (everyone was talking about what happened and the only one who actually saw it- besides Daniel and Brandy- was an eye witness who wasn't on the show).   

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:18 pm PST

Trailers in the background

Wow! I couldn't have put together a better location for the dead kids familly than that classy trailer park. Perfect!!
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:18 pm PST

I see it all the time

I've worked in law enforcement in every capacity and I see this all the time. Parents will never admit or want to believe that there children could be guilty of anything. Even if the truth bit them in the face they would never admit or see the truth. I've seen this show several times and I feel,  from experience and observation that the cheerleader is blaming her lawyer, the police for her actions she takes very little responsibility for her actions. Her parents said "what good is it her serving all that time?"  The answer is simple it's her punishment for her crime. The criminal justice system has determined that's the price for the crime she committed. Often the price is not high enough. 
 
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