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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 1:23 pm PDT

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Suicide is still considered a crime. And helping someone kill themselves is a crime as well. So why should she go free? EITHER WAY, he couldn't have died without her.
Jeez!  I hope you're never in a position to judge me. There must be some consideration for INTENT.  Put yourself in a person's place who is unwittingly made a party to a suicide?  This happens to police officers all the time.  Should they be thrown in jail as well?  I guess you would think so...
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:23 pm PDT

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 I would like to send my condolences to Daniel's family.  I couldn't imagine what it's like to lose a child/sibling.  Nothing in this world will ever bring him back.  And no matter how much time Brandi spends in prison,won't bring him back.   Whether she's telling the truth, or lying, at this point, isn't going to change anything.  Only she knows what really happened.  All I will say is, her judgement day will come.   I hope you can find peace with this.  You will never forget.. but I hope the day comes for your family that the hatred and the resentment isn't so strong and you can celebrate the wonderful life that Daniel had while he was here.   I'm sorry that you won't see him get married, or have children.  But God is doing better things with him now.  He's in a peaceful place... with no pain, and no hurt.  And I'm sure he's consoling you in his own way. 
And to Brandi's family, I hope the day comes that you can bring your daughter home. 
Daniel and Brandi aren't the only children here.  Don't forget to honor and love the family that you still have at home with you.  I wish you all the best.....
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:23 pm PDT

Is prison solving anything?

I have three boys and can't begin to imagine how I would feel if I were to lose any or all of them.  The one thing that I know is that nothing will bring Daniel back.  My heart goes out to both families and I thingk everyone needs to try and begin to forgive and heal for themselves. 

  

Regardless of whether she did it in "a fit of rage" or if it was an accident, putting her away for 12 years will not bring him back.  It is not as though she is a cold blooded murderer.  She was still a child and it seems as though the family of the victim wanted her put away for life and that would solve nothing. 

  

I have read some of the messages that bring up her plea bargain and if you are familiar with the judicial system you would know that even if you are innocent, a trial is not always the answer.  Innocent people go to prison everyday for crimes they did not commit.  Sometimes the safest bet is to take a plea especially if your attorney advises it. 

  

The girl has lost her life in a different way.  She will have to live with this for the rest of her life and now she has a felony on her record which will affect other aspects of her life and she is spending her youth behind bars.  I've seen crimes of passion committed and people sentenced to less or not at all.  Apparently she feared for her life and the life of her brother and the relationship was abusive.  Would it have been different if they were married and it was considered domestic violence?   Either way everyone needs to begin healing and forgiving and let the girl go home.  She is not a murderer and it is not like she is a risk to the community.  I suppose it easy looking from the outside in. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:24 pm PDT

Oct.13,2005

 

I believe he who brags about killing themselves don't really have the nerve to follow it out, I believe if the young man had talked about it to his family then he would have never had any control issues to began with. I had a abusive relationship growing up, I thought abuse was love(boy was I ever wrong).I believe that he nor she should be blamed I think he jumped out in front of the car to scare her so she would know that what he told her about killing himself wasn't just a empty threat. I also think that she will live with the thought of taking a life for the rest of hers. I also believe that the families needs to get help to deal with their lose, because both family has lost a lot-the young man's family for losing their son and the daughter's family for losing their little girl because she will never be the same. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:25 pm PDT

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I feel bad for both sides.  I can somewhat understand the hurt both families are going through; however, the anger and hatred Daniel family has is just unbelievable to me. 
You have to let some of the anger go or you are going to make yourself seiously sick from it all.  One thing I haven't read on here and I think it is really important is to Daniels family, have you put yourself in Daniels shoes.  Really and truly, do you really think Daniel would want you to be filled with so much anger that you are obviously hurting from it.  I really don't think he would...I know if it was me I would want my family to forgive and remember me as someone who brought happiness to the world and to their lives.  Daniel won't be able to rest in peace until you are living in peace. 
 

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October 13, 2005, 1:25 pm PDT

Give me a break!

  ~~ My brother was killed by a drunk driver and the guy that hit his car was later seen bragging about it.  He served less than 1 year for taking the life of 2 kids!  So... 15 years later...I still miss my brother, but we eventually have to continue to go on!!                           ~                                ~              For the family who's daughter is in prison - Don't let the other family get to you...  I mean, come on... What kind of mom is out of her son's life for 5 years has any knowledge to draw upon to make judgments about what kind of Mother ANYONE else is!                       ~                                     ~ The Mom of the teenage son who died made a complete fool out of herself.  She was not really there for her son when he was alive... so I can not fall for her drama!  Give me a break!!  How do we know that the boy didn't throw himself in front of the car - He said that he would kill himself if his girlfriend left.  TRY the words Responsibility and Forgiveness!   It seems like a true accident.                                                        ~                         ~ To the family with the daughter in prison - Don't let your son get away with using his sister in prison as an excuse for any of HIS actions!  Take control of your family and do NOT let the other family discourage you!!!   Many people saw this airing and frown upon the family obviously looking for revenge!                           ~                                ~  I know what it's like to lose a brother and my Mother knows what it's like to lose a son - and if we can move on...anyone can!  You can overcome this and let the bitter and mean family wallow.  They we intense before the accident...and their comments on the show won no sympathy from me!                                         ~                     ~
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:25 pm PDT

Ultimate Payback

He told her if she broke up with her he would kill himself. So---he jumps in front of the car, has her kill him and now he has the ulrimate payback.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:26 pm PDT

How Sad for Danny's Family

They seem to be in need of serious therapy. I'm willing to bet they had some serious issues before he was killed. How could any mother call another mother piss-poor when she put her own son out of the house? That right there seems like Danny was set up to act out inappropriately and become abusive. And why is it so beyond the scope of reason that he stepped out in front of her car because he had threatened to kill himself if she broke up with her. This young man probably had no idea how to properly express difficult emotions. Look at the way his family conducts themselves. Why did they have to be removed from a school by police? I would have liked to hear more about this families dynamic as it appears to have contributed to that young mans demise. Their bitterness is just misplaced guilt. It is obvious that there is much more to this story and a young girl from a good family paid a heavy price,and a young man from a questionable family paid the ultimate price.  

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:27 pm PDT

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My son was also killed in an automobile accident, by his girlfriend. I can honestly say I know how both sides feel. I choose to forgive the driver and not live with the bitterness that could devour my life. What I can not get past is how to live an everyday life now. The pain and empty heart has taken my life over. Does anyone have any suggestions.. I can not sleep a full night, I have lost my career, and isolated myself from people so I don't have to talk about it in public. It was an accident that took national attention. I feel so empty inside, my heart just can not feel...some call it " The broken heart syndrome" 

Nanook582@yahoo.com 

Sorry to hear that your son was killed!  May I ask how long ago?  I know your pain is more than you can bear at times.  Allow yourself to feel, and know that what your going through is normal.  Take comfort that your son is in God's arms now.  If your saying that he didn't believe.... I believe that everyone is given one last chance to take Jesus' hand.  Time will take care of your broken heart.  "I feel so empty inside, my heart just can not feel..."  The emptyness that you feel is normal as well.  Your heart isn't feeling anything possibly because you are too scared to feel and open up as you fear losing again. It sounds as though you have taken a very important step, forgivness is good, if you chose to forgive for yourself.  "What I can not get past is how to live an everyday life now. The pain and empty heart has taken my life over. Does anyone have any suggestions.. " Try living moment to moment.  Who says you need to take on the whole day at once?!  All in my humble opinion of course :) Have you thought about talking with someone professional regarding this? 

Take care, and I know your going to be fine ;) 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:27 pm PDT

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I really feel for both family's.  I too had a brother taken away from me, by his wife.  She shot him in the head, and her lawyer made it look like she was an angel.  He supposedly conditioned her to do this until one time he put a bullet in the gun.  Whatever.  I too, was angry for quite a while, as well as all of our family.  But Daniels family better get councelling because it looks like they WANT to dwell on if forever.  It is over, and nothing will change the fact that their son and brother is gone and will not be back.  They should be remembering all the good times they had with him, and concentrating on getting their lives back to normal.  The fact is, life does go on, and they are wasting thiers, being so angry and revengeful.  I had thoughts of revenge as well and could have done my brothers wife in as she crossed a crosswalk right in front of my car.  What good would that have done.  My condolences to Daniel and Brandi's families. 

 
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