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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 1:28 pm PDT

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i think it was very clear by watching the show and listening, the girls mind was going non stop, she wasnt thinking clear, and it wasnt like the car was smashed in the front, it was the side. I mean she has served 4 years..... she will relive this probably every day of her life. I think Dr. Phil should look further into this and help her...
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:28 pm PDT

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I too have been in an abusive relationship, so I totally understand why Brandi went to Daniels house that night...I did basically the same thing when I was trying (after numerous times) to break up with him. when I left the place where he was he chased me to my car and ran out in front of me...i too ran over him...just his leg though which DIDNT result with a very bad injury. I too fled the scene and felt like Brandi did. My sympathy is with both families, but something really needs to be done about men abusing women, whether its mental or physical abuse...and vice versa... 

My thoughts and prayers are with Brandi 

God Bless 

Cin 

WHETHER YOU ARE AN ABUSER OR NOT NOONE DESERVES TO DIE!!!!!! NOONE CAN TAKE ANOTHER PERSON LIFES. IM SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR SITUATION BUT NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE SOMEONES FATE
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:28 pm PDT

Brandy is NOT Guilty

I see how some people think she is guilty because she tried to cover it up. But think about it, a kid/ teen is going to try and cover anything up, whether it's on purpose or not, like when I dropped a mug of tea on the rug, I made up a story about how the cat knocked it over, and I'm not even a child anymore. So when the poor girl knows she's going to be in trouble, even if she didn't mean to hurt him, she's obviously gonna cover it up. Thats what people do. She's 17, she's upset and she just hit her boyfriend with her parents car, oh I'd lie like crazy to. But that girl needs to get out of jail. My heart goes out to Daniel's family, but also to Brandy and hers. Unfortunately nothing will bring back that young man and that's a tragedy!  Brandy needs to be around people to support her. I don't believe it was intentional. She's still a kid let her out!  
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:29 pm PDT

Brandy's issue

I believe that Brandy’s parents should stop hating so much and holding so much anger and think about their one child their son whom is living right with them. They are destroying his life. His parents should focus on bringing their family closer and helping their son become the man the want him to be. As for Brandy I think she was very stupid in signing that form saying that what she did was “Intentionally” I know people would considerate what their lawyer is telling them but HELLO use your brain if you know you didn’t do it intentionally then why sign the damn form????!! She should’ve thought really hard before doing so. There’s really nothing else to say since there hasn’t been much proof showed for us the viewers. Therefore I’m going to leave it at this. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:29 pm PDT

I agree but not only that

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Brandi's family should be ashamed. They continued to blame Daniel for his own death by saying "he jumped out in front" of Brandi's car. They completely disgusted me. They had no remorse, they were heartless, and were only concerned about their spoiled daughter's jail sentence. Daniel lost his life, his parents lost their son and they were totally insensitive. Brandi's father made me ill. The way they attacked that family mortified me. They even mentioned how they were not involved in Daniel's life...That was WRONG!!!...They are evil people and there daughter is a brat...she belongs in jail for 112 years!!!!
Why doesn't the dad spend some time in jail to because the thing she used to kill was his car!!!!!!
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:29 pm PDT

Time

I just finished watching the show and I have to say that I really don't fell sorry for either parties, which can seem a little strange, maybe even detached.  The dead are gone and taken care of, if it had not been Daniel's time to go, the incident could have worked itself out differently.  It's harsh to think that this poor woman has to spend the next 12 years in jail for something that she didn't do, but I believe she should have let the matter go to trial, things may have turned out differently.  But she was young, and we all make mistakes. 

Daniel's mother needs to let go.  I understand her pain, but I have also been in an abusive relationship, and the man I was with was very abusive.  So abusive and manipulative that his family and the police did not believe that he was hurting me.  Maybe there was another side to her son that she was unaware of. 

We have no room to judge, and time heals all wounds.  Most people will watch this show and feed off this girl like hungry wolves.  Some will be angry, others will feel sad, and some, such as myself, will feel no pity.  She will get to see her son someday, no matter what anyone believes, but for now, she must forgive and start living her life, if not for herself, then for Daniel. 

Brandi will have her chance at freedom and I wish her the best along her way.  The world can be a very cold place.  She has enough punishment in her life, and I don't believe that people should be on here condemning something that they know nothing about. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:29 pm PDT

This is a sad story

  

    I feel for everyone involved with this story and I agree that there is more to this than we know.  This boy was obviously worried and threatened that she would leave him and I feel that maybe this was his way of dealing.  Suicide?  Do not know if he would really go that far honestly.  Love can do strange things to people and young kids can feel like the world is coming to the end if they feel thatt the one person they love is going to leave them.  I do not think Brandi did this on purpose.  I feel and see her pain and remorse.  I do believe though that Daniel's family does not want to know the truth about what happened.  They just want to lay blame on Brandi and hate her for it.  No mother or father wants to believe that thier child are capable of hurting themselves but in the real world it does happen.  This was an accident whether Daniel did jump out in front of her just because he wanted to stop her or wanted to hurt himself.  I feel as if Brandi should not be in jail for another 12 years.  She is paying for this and will for the rest of her life.  She will never be able to forget this horrible accicent and that will affect her throughtout her growing years.  I see and feel the hatred that Daniel's family has for her and her family and it appears to me that they really do not care about other people's lives and that forgiveness and compassion are apart of life and if they could talk to their son he would want them to go on and remember him the way he was and not hold on to this hatred and revenge that they apparently have.  Everyone makes mistakes in life and most of us learn from them but for everyone in this situation to just let this destroy their whole being is not the way life is.  I am not saying that this is not a terrible thing for the family of Daniel to deal with and believe me that whenever you lose someone close if is very hard to deal with.  Feels like the whole world comes to an end and that you just can not go on but we have to that is what God wants for us and for some reason he tests us in ways that we will never understand.  He has a plan for Daniel and he is and always will be special.  The hatred needs to turn into blessings that he was apart of your lives even if it was only for a little bit.  All children are blessings and they need to remembered as such.  That is why I feel that Brandi is a child also and should be blessed by her family as well.    

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:30 pm PDT

Most definitely guilty in some way.

I just finnished watching todays show and I have drawn my own personal conclusion that Brandi is most definitely guilty. At the beginning of the show I wasn't quite sure, but what really changed my mind was when he was talking to Brandi in jail and he presented her with the evidence. I'm sorry, but nobody in their right mind is going to jump in front of a moving car. And people will argue that he said he was going to commit suicide, but I was a teenager once and I too have said this to a boyfriend to try and get them not to leave me. It's just a naive way of trying to hold on to someone. So no, I don't think it was suicide.

What really stuck out for me was the fact that she said she was going 20 mph. There is NO way you could hurl someone 50 feet in the air going 20 mph. I may live in Canada and I'm not familiar with miles, but I know that this is not fast enough to throw someone that far.

Also, if she said she didn't know what she hit. Wouldn't she piece together that she had hit Daniel if he jumped out in front? You would obviously stop to check. The fact that she snuck out, did this, came home and fabricated a story to her parents speaks volumes. She also took a plea bargain which tells me that she is guilty in some way, shape or form. Most people who are truly innocent will try to fight until the end.

I also thought her parents were acting absolutely ridiculous! It seemed to me that they were pointing the finger of blame at Daniel's parents the whole show! HELLO! They lost theie son because of YOUR daughter! If anyone should be upset, it should be Daniel's parents and sister and rightfully so. They feel so bad for their own daughter that they won't feel any remorse for Daniel's death and his family. I think that Brandi should have gotten a much stiffer penalty. Maybe not life, but at least 25-50 years.


I am thankful that I live in a part of Canada where we have a very low crime rate. But whenever I watch murder cases in the US, it breaks my heart because it is so foreign for me. I hope it is always foreign for me because I could not handle too many cases like Brandi and Daniel's. My prayers are with especially Daniel's family, but with Brandi and her family so that they will open their eyes and realize that they are not the only people going through this.

Just my opinions of course...take them for what they're worth.

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:30 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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I am sorry but I think that the mother of Daniel needs to get a life!  I know that she is sad and really hurt about the whole thing but she still has a son and a daughter to take care of and to love.  I know that she will never forgive Brandi for what happend but she does need to move on about it and live her life to the fullest not in anger and sadness!!! 

Andrea 

Andrea, until you have lost someone extremely close to you. I think you should keep your advice to yourself. How old are you??? YOu can not "get a life" when you just lost your son for no reason at all. That is a part of you taken away forever
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:30 pm PDT

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Having been in an abusive relationship, I can understand the fear that Brandi felt with the threats to her life and the lives of her family members. I agree with everyone who has said that Daniel said he would kill himself if she left him. Jumping in front of the car would be the best way to do it to make sure that Brandi suffered for the rest of her life. I think that she sould be sent home. And for one mother to call another mother a piss-poor mother was just uncalled for. If the tables were turned, she would do whatever it took to protect her child. That is just a mother's nature. LET HER GO!!

I agree that the statements made by Daniel's mother and sister  were not appropriate.  They sound defensive statements rather than explanations.  It was shocking to see the rage the two women displayed towards Brandi and her family.  Knowing that anger and guilt are VERY close emotions it makes one rather vote in favor of Brandi and her side of the story.  Presentation is everything! 

  

I think that the out and out dismissal of abuse charges due to lack of visible evidence is absurd.  It is a reaction of defense that one takes when abuse is certain but not evident.  How can Daniel's mother state with assurance, her son's actions and behaviors when he did not live with her.  When she did not interact with him on a daily basis.  When she was not being a mother to him.  This is where her guilt lies and why she is so defensive. 

  

I feel for the loss of both families and believe in Brandi and her family.  It is a shame that the facts cannot be fully disclosed due to time.  We were only shown the 'highlights'.  Items to peak and keep our interest.  Of those, I decide accident. 

  

 
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