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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm

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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

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March 17, 2006, 7:17 am PST

BLACKOUT

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I feel that Brandi did hit Daniel out of fear and frustration. Of course, it is only her word, when she "says "it was an accident". No one saw her do it. The evidence I think, shows she was guilty especially if Daniel was thrown 56 feet to his death. Wouldn't you think, Brandi should have know she hit something if there were a broken windshield? She then tried to cover it up by pushing a 2 by 4 in the window and saying someone did it to her car. Right there discredits her because she lied. I think her 12 years in prison should stand.

YES BRANDI HIT HIM ,BUT NOT CONTIEOUSLY.HIS THREATING TO HURT HER OR HIMSELF NO LONGER HAD ANY POWER OVER HER . THREATING HER BROTHER CARRIED MORE WEIGHT. DID ANYONE CHECK HER CAR FOR THE SKATE SHE WAS RETURNING? WHY WAS HE OUTSIDE 15 MINS. LATER? SHE COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN HE WOULD STILL BE OUTSIDE. SO SHE COULDN'T HAVE PLAN TO RUN OVER HIM. HIS JUMPING IN FRONT OF HER CAR , SHOCKED AND SCARED HER. WHERE AS AT THAT MOMENT EVERYTHING WENT BLANK,AS IN WHEN YOU ARE DAYDREAMING,HERE SUBCONTIESECE KEPT WHAT WAS HAPPENING FROM REGISTRING.WHEN SHE BECAME AWARE AGAIN , SHE WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE LOOKING AT A HOLE IN HER WINDSHIELD NOT KNOWING HOW IT GOT THERE.SHE COULDN'T TELL HER FATHER SHE DIDN'T KNOW , SO SHE MADE UP A STORY. NOT UNTIL THEY CAME TO ARREST HER DID SHE VAGUELY BITS AND PIECES OF WHAT HAPPEN.YOU KNOW ADULT WOMEN THAT'S HAD MANY RELATIONSHIPS HAVE PROBLEMS DEALING WITH ABUSE. SO HOW STRONG DO YOU THINK A 17 YEAR S OLD GIRL INVOLVED IN AN ABUSIVE FIRST LOVE RELATIONSHIP SHOULDS BE ABLE TO DEAL. ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS END 1 OF 4 WAYS. THE ABUSED COMMIT SUISIDE, THE ABUSER KILLS THEM, THE ABUSED KILL THE ABUSER,AND THE ONE EVERYONE SAYS IS EASY BUT IT REALLY ISN'T , IS TELL THE POLICE AND PRESS CHARGES AND STICK TO IT .( 10 OUT OF A 100 ABUSED EVER GO THAT ROUTE.

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March 17, 2006, 7:17 am PST

CHEERLEADER SCANDAL

THIS SHOULD BE OVER AND LET THE FAMILYS HEAL. A YOUNG BOY THAT WAS ABUSIVE AND HAD PROBLEMS. A THERE YOUNG AGE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. SHE SHOULD NOT SERVE ANYMORE TIME FOR WHAT SHE DID NOT DO. THE FAMILYS NEED TO HEAL SOME WAY.

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March 17, 2006, 7:32 am PST

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I don't care if Daniel's mother was drunk everyday and beat her kids with belts, how dare u attack this woman. She was not there that night and she wasn't driving the car. She was extremely angry and extremely emotional on the show, yes, but don't call her feelings misguided. Brandi was the cause of her son's death and Brandi has shown no remorse toward this woman. I'd be filled with hatred too. Character assisnation on her and her son are uncalled for. U don't know for a fact that he ever talked of suicide or killing.

For all u know Brandi emellished some or a lot of his treatment toward her to try to get out of this mess. She's a teenager and she made a fatal error of judgement

So many people are judging Daniel's mother's parenting skills because of the way she acted on the show. I WISH they would try to see through all of that. The fact that her son was not with her before he died alone is enough for this woman to be suffering a tremendous guilt, and questioning herself as a mother and questioning her every choice in her own mind only making it harder to get past her grief. If she lets go of the grief she wouldn't be punishing herself anymore. I believe that mother is truly torturing herself in her own mind. I hope and pray she finds a way to forgive herself. Not that she did anything wrong, but I think this would be her first step toward moving on and living again. I've seen this self punishment in a mother who lost her 5yr old to cancer. They did everything they could, but the mother still blamed herself and tortured herself for years after losing her daughter. Outwardly it seemed she blamed the world, but it wasn't just the world she was so angry with.

Dr. Phil should do separate updates for this show, in which neither family can slander the other, but tell how they are doing.
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March 17, 2006, 7:33 am PST

03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

I also lost a child due to a hit and run while she was sitting in the grass at a dead end street, she was 19, first year of college. The boy that hit her never even tried to help, just backed his mom's car up and left her there dying. He could have avoided hitting her, but he would have been traped in a fence. He ran from the law, not that the law even knew who he was at that time. five months of not knowing who killed my daughter almost killed me. He was living in another state and brought back for conviction. he only served 18 months, vehiclular homiside, I had so much hate at one time, but learned to forgive to a certain point. Hate can eat you alive. In Elizabeth case, I never got an appolgey or any thing. When he was released we did try to sue for 10,000, at the hearing we had photo of cars and by accident Elizabeth was showned covered by a sheet, when asked about what that was he repiled trash, this boy was and still is bad news, last i heard he had been shot in a gun/drug deal, but lived. I gave up trying to see what happened to him. At the trial I did tell him he had is life to live and i prayed he would do someting good with it. I do think he has not and don't even know if he is still alive. But my message to this mom is to remember all the great memeories of her son, hate will take over and the memories of of her son and how he souned will fade. The girl is sorry, and she knows what she did. In my case the boy didn't even care, so if somehing bad was to happen to him and I found out about it, I would say yea, what goes around comes around.

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March 17, 2006, 7:33 am PST

Enough Already

This girl should be released. She has suffered enough. The Daniels want revenge and unless they can find it in thier hearts to forgive and let go they will continue to suffer as well. I do not know if she did it in anger or not, however I do think she should be let out. Nothing good can come of her remaining in prison. I thought about OJ Simpson a free man and his crime was far worse than this if it wasnt an accident. I feel very strongly that she should be freed A.S.A.P.

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March 17, 2006, 7:35 am PST

See What????

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Brandi needs to be let out of prison. You can clearly see that she did not do this on purpose, it was an accident. He had already threatened her and her brother, I think it was Suicide on his part b/c she was breaking up with him.

Daniels family needs to let go of all the hatered that have for Brandi, its only causing them more pain.

What is it that you see that makes you believe this wasn't on purpose???? Should we let all murder's out of jail that accidentally ran over someone due to DUI or accidentally shot someone? She killed someone, on purpose or not, she needs to pay for what she has done, everybody else does so why shouldn't she?

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March 17, 2006, 7:37 am PST

Let Go and Let God

I really believe that Brandi did not mean to kill Daniel. I believe that there is more to the relationship that Brandi and Daniel had, that even Daniel's family did not know. It is really easy to blame someone else for the cause of your pain. I am saddened by the fact that Daniel's family is so full of hate and revenge,

Both these families need to get intensive grief counseling and counseling on how to go on with your life. I know that it is extremely pain to lose a child, but do they really think that Daniel would want them all full of anger and hatred?

I think Daniels family so focus on the wonderful times they did have with him. When God believes it is your time to come home, he takes you, and apparently it was Daniel's time.

Please get the counseling you all need and try to remember that there is still other family members that are living.

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March 17, 2006, 7:47 am PST

03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

Having lost my brother when I was 13 I can sympathise with the family having lost their son/brother. My father, while at the hospital with his cousin, to identify my brothers body went to visit the young man who was driving the car. He told him that we as a family did not blame him for my brothers death. It always surprised me because my Dad could have been very bitter. However my parents did not talk about my brother very much after. As a survivng child it was very hard to cope. I wanted to talk about my brother because I missed him alot. After seeing this family I am not sure which would be better. Having little or no discussion, or having my parents immersed in anger and bitterness. I can certainly understand where they are coming from but I agree with Dr. Phil. The best scenario is to carry on with your life and live. My daughter knows about my brother and I have tried to live a life that makes him proud. That is the best remeberance that I can give him. My sympathies also go to that family of the girl driving. I can't imagine the feeling of knowing that your child is alive but you can't be with them. While the families will never agree they must try to rise above and live a life to honour the children involved. Thank you Dr. Phil for your sensitive handling of a very volatile subject

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March 17, 2006, 7:56 am PST

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I just wanted to let those of you who have wrote in know that My family thanks you for the kind words and prayers.

And to those of you who chooose to pass judgement without even knowing Daniel please remember that not everything that you hear is always the gospel truth . We let the courts decide her judgement and they found her guilty . Her family is only trying to get her out of prison no matter what it takes. If you notice none of them _ever said Daniel's name . And she was only sorry for what she was missing out on.

My son never did drugs so why would he try to end his life when he broke up with her.

Remember you really only got to hear their side.

We never really got to tell our side we're not trashy people just people who have lost a son and a brother whom we loved very dearly.

Feel free to contact me if you wish i will try to answer any of your questions

My heart and prayers go out to you and your family. May God along with the love of your family give you strength during your difficult time of need.

I posted a message with my feelings on this matter at 9:34 am yesterday. I hope you will take the time to review them.

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March 17, 2006, 7:56 am PST

She has paid

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What is it that you see that makes you believe this wasn't on purpose???? Should we let all murder's out of jail that accidentally ran over someone due to DUI or accidentally shot someone? She killed someone, on purpose or not, she needs to pay for what she has done, everybody else does so why shouldn't she?

She has paid more than many. Her's situation is unique and compasion is what is needed here. One of the purposes of going to jail is rehabilitation. She will live with what happened the rest of her life and does not need to be rehabilitated. I say free her now.

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