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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 1:34 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Brandi is TOTALLY guilty for killing Daniel. She went into her parents bedroom and took the car keys WITHOUT permission, which is theft! She NEVER asked to take the keys. Her father says that he's a light sleeper and he would have heard Brandi taking the keys, which doesn't add up right. Now, that Brandi's 17 and served about 3 years of her 12 year sentence, she was only about 13 years old when this happened. A 13-year-old should never be behind a wheel of a motorized vehicle, when he/she is not in the age of majority to drive. 

  

Brandi's story does NOT add up right. She says that after she hit him she never noticed that the wind shield was damanged until she got home and tried to lie to her parents about it before she confessed. When she got home, she put part of a tree in the wind shield to make it look like a tree busted the wind shield.  

  

I sympathize with Daniel's family, even though I don't know what it's like to lose a sibling or a child, but I do know what it's like to lose a parent. I know how they feel!!!!! 

Did you actually watch the show!  She was 17 when the incident happened.  If you are going to come on here and condemn the girl, get your facts straight!
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:34 pm PDT

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That is just the most obsured thing I have ever read.
Obviously you have never studied criminal law, then. Assisted suicide is in fact a crime. When did she try to stop ? She mentioned seeing him there but never mentioned trying to stop or avoid him. If he was killing himself, she helped. There's your explanation.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:35 pm PDT

To Daniel's sister Crystal

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I think that you need to live your life to the fullest and realize that you still have a mother and a father and a brother for you love and experience lifes little moments with!!!  Stop blaming Brandi for something that she didn't mean to do!

  

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What are you thinkig are you crazy. My Brother never mentioned in his life that he was going to kill her or her brother let alone him self. 

  

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY CLAIM TO KNOW WHAT YOUR BROTHER MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SAID TO ANOTHER PERSON? 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:35 pm PDT

It's about time....

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now i am not going to take sides on this because i have not read the police reports or anything, but i am going to comment on being a driver, who has hit a person by accident. 

  

my side of the story: 

I was driving to camus during college and hit a boy who was walking in the middle of the road.  it was dusk, i didn't see him.  i was not going fast, and it was ruled by the police as a "No Fault" situation. basically i had done nothing wrong. he was alright at first, released from the hospital in a matter of hours, however then "problems" seemed to arise. a person has 24 months after an inccident to file civil claim.  he waited 23 months and then filed.  he suied myself and my parents.  over a year later, my insurance company chose to settle with him for $40,000, it was cheaper than going to trial. 

  

while my situation is very different, i will say that there is a huge amount of hysteria after being in a car accident of that magnitude. whether Brandi spends the rest of her life in jail or not, is not going to change the horror that is in her head.  the person i hit is okay, and $40,000 richer, but i STILL haven't gotten over it. 

  

so to all of you from the aspect of a driver who has hit someone, please pray for peace for both families, becasue this will never end for either group of people. hopefully the families will learn to express thier grief in ways that will make a difference for people in the future. 

  

Bless you all 

It saddens me that you are the only person on this board that sees what is the sad reality of this incident.  Neither of these families will ever be the same.  No matter who was at fault or who abused who NO ONE WILL EVER BE THE SAME!  Why can't more people just realize that focusing on the hatred and wanting revenge will never bring you peace.   Both of these families are someday going to regret their behavior regarding this incident. This is coming from someone who has been in this situation.  My little brother was killed in an accident.  Yes you do feel angry and you do want justice, but what will that accomplish?  nothing!  We had to tell ourselves that nothing will bring him back and we need to make his life a happy story.  We need to make his death mean something, and make a difference.  NOT just hating the boy who killed him.  We had to tell our selves that it could have been him driving not the other boy, it was the luck of the draw at the time.  These families have to realize that they are not the final judge.  In the end all of the parties will have to pay the price for their lives and the way they handled all of this.  No one has the right to judge anyone else, GOD will do that for us.  We just have to live our lives and find a positive way to move on, keeping those we have lost, no matter how they were lost to us, in our hearts.  You will see them again someday.  That is what needs to keep us going. 
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:35 pm PDT

OKAY LOL ARE YOU ON DRUGS????

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Suicide is still considered a crime. And helping someone kill themselves is a crime as well. So why should she go free? EITHER WAY, he couldn't have died without her.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:36 pm PDT

I Can't believe her family!!

I can't believe that Brandi's family could be so insensitive!  Their daughter killed someone (purposely, I think) and all they can do is blame Daniel's family.  They are in complete denial if they believe Brandi's ridiculous story.  How can a human body hit your windshield and leave a whole and you not know it?  In shock my foot! She wasn't in shock enough that she couldn't lie and try to cover up her crime. Brandi not only ran Daniel down in cold blood, but now she's making matters worse by lying about it.  All she cares about is herself, and she's proving that by continuing to let her family suffer and not tell the truth. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:37 pm PDT

Unfortunate Circumstances

This was an awful set of circumstances that got set on a course that led to tragic consequences for all involved.  There was no intervention when perhaps there were red flags in these kid's lives that things were obviously becoming seriously out of the realm of teenage romance. 

  

I was in a dysfunctional and abusive marriage and one evening, in an attempt to get out of the house and away from my husband, fleed in the car as he was in pursuit.  He ran in front of the car and I swerved and missed him and kept going.  He deliberately put himself in front of my car.   

  

I do know that I would have known if I had hit him or not as upset as I was.  I do know it would have been an accident because of his action.  I also know that at the height of emotion, with all the abuse that came before and was going on at the time, the state I was in, the state he was in and the fact that we were the only two present in the aftermath trying to recall, explain and have it make sense to others may have been difficult and never fully explainable. 

  

I do agree with Dr. Phil that the two families need to make the decisions for themselves individually and together as families to heal and make a decision as to how they want to live the rest of their lives. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:38 pm PDT

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 clearly he jumped infront of the car she can not be blamed for his suicide that is very clear .. and how is she supposed to stop from going 65mph when he jumped in front of her i am on her side and of course like Dr. Phil said only she and the young man who died know what happend ..

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  First of all, why was she driving 65mph in a residential neighborhood? Second of all, why  would she drive off if it was an accident?  Only someone with no thought for others could drive off after hitting someone.  Third, why would she take a plea bargain? If she was so innocent, than she should have went to trial but she didn't because she knew there was too much evidence against her.  Her story changed too many times during Dr. Phil's interview for me to believe her. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:38 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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 clearly he jumped infront of the car she can not be blamed for his suicide that is very clear .. and how is she supposed to stop from going 65mph when he jumped in front of her i am on her side and of course like Dr. Phil said only she and the young man who died know what happend ..
if you hit something going 65 miles per hour, wouldnt you stop to see what the hell you just hit???? or maybe its because brandi was running from the CRIME she just committed??
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:39 pm PDT

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I cannot believe how ignorant and selfish Brandi's parents are. The showed no decency to the fact that this family has lost a child forever, and they attacked his family to no end. They had no right to say that Daniel's mother was not in his life for 5 years....that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they are suffering immensely for what their daughter did to their family. 

They got very defensive when his family said that at least they can spend Birthdays with their daughter, and talk to her.....they responded with "NO WE CAN'T!"..........YES THEY CAN!!! In 8 years they can sit down and have a coffee with their daughter everyday if they wanted, while Daniel's will never be able to!!! What don't these IGNORANT people understand about that?????? 

I am immensely disgusted in them and their selfishness....shame on them. Do they not find it a LITTLE suspicious how their daughter was sane enough to drive home and stick a TREE LIMB in the hole in the windshield that was caused upon impact with Daniel...sounds like someone who is guilty to me. I cannot emphasize how angry I am with that family right now, they obviously have never experienced a death of someone very dear to them. 

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