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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 1:43 pm PDT

Daniel's Parents Needs to Move On

I really do not mean to seem rude, but Daniel's mom and dad and siblings need to move on. It has been three years. I know they will never forget about Daniel and they should NOT forget about him. They have got to separate the hate for Brandi from the pain of the loss of their son, before it kills them. If not, they are going to end up poisoning everybody around them. However, Brandi has served 3 years of a 12 year sentence. I live in Canada and if this case had happened here Brandi would have been out in a year. I have a feeling that if Brandi has to the whole 12 years it will not be enough for Daniel's mom. I am sorry, but I can not remember her name. And what about Brandi's mom's health? I hope she looks after herself, for her daughter. And, Josh if you read this ... sorry kiddo, but smarten up ... you were an "A" student. Don't mess up, Brandi will need you when she gets out!!!
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:44 pm PDT

Have Faith

I thought it was appropriate that Robin (Mrs. Phil McGraw) had a huge crucifix hanging around her neck that was shown by the camera as Dr. Phil grabbed her hand like he always does as they left the studio.  Dr. Phil concluded the show saying both families need to come to peace with their situations.  There is nothing they can change about the past, but if they have faith they will be able to move forward.  Hopefully both families will accept Dr. Phil's offer for counseling to deal with their loss and grief.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:44 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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After watching the show I have come to realize that Brandi did not mean to kill Daniel. I realize that Daniel's family is in pain but that is no reason to attack Brandi's family and call her mom a "piss poor mother." Everyone has tragedies in their family, and it is very painful, but as far as I am concerned I believe that Daniel was abusive to Brandi, i have been in a realationship like that one when the man said that he was going to kill himself and kill my family members. She needed to get away from him and thats what she was trying to do. Brandi's family needs her to be home where she belongs, her mother especially. Brandi deserves a second chance, she is to young and to bright to be in jail. Jail is where criminals go and she is definatly not a criminal. Both families are very strong, and i know that Daniel will never return but Brandi needs to come home for the well being of her mother, father, and brother.
I've seen so many of these posts of people who have been in an abusive or controlling relationship. DID YOU KILL THAT PERSON? It is NOT the same. She is NOT you. And yes, if you kill someone you are in fact a criminal. If he forgot to take something (what was it, a shoe?) why did she sit at the top of the hill for 15 minutes and then come down the hill hitting him at 65 miles an hour? If she was going back to his house why did she pass by it completely in order to hit him>?
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:45 pm PDT

I agree 100%

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After watching the show I have come to realize that Brandi did not mean to kill Daniel. I realize that Daniel's family is in pain but that is no reason to attack Brandi's family and call her mom a "piss poor mother." Everyone has tragedies in their family, and it is very painful, but as far as I am concerned I believe that Daniel was abusive to Brandi, i have been in a realationship like that one when the man said that he was going to kill himself and kill my family members. She needed to get away from him and thats what she was trying to do. Brandi's family needs her to be home where she belongs, her mother especially. Brandi deserves a second chance, she is to young and to bright to be in jail. Jail is where criminals go and she is definatly not a criminal. Both families are very strong, and i know that Daniel will never return but Brandi needs to come home for the well being of her mother, father, and brother.
Daniels mother is in pain, but so is Branids mother........  everyone seems to be forget the violence and everything he put her threw...............  in a split second, it could have been the other way around by the sounds of things........ not long before the accident he threatened to kill her...........  i think this girl was terrified for her life and her families, wasnt thinking straight and im sure everything was racing threw her mind... i think 4 years is long enough...........   
 

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October 13, 2005, 1:46 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

We were driving home one day last year, from a trip.  We came around a corner on a hilly highway and there was a man standing in the middle of the highway.  We could not avoid him.  He moved in front of our car and we hit and killed him.  I cannot even explain how we feel and will feel for the rest of our lives and it was not even our fault.  Although, his family may say differently due to their horrible loss. 

My parents lost a child to cancer at 23 years of age and I lost a sibling.  So, I know what that loss is.  We were never and will never be the same. 

Everyone has to go through the grieving process and somehow justify what happens in our lives. 

My thoughts and prayers go out to the all the victims in this situation, as I believe they are all victims. 

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 1:46 pm PDT

Maybe not on purpose, but deserves to pay...

I'm not going to say she did in on purpose. But i do believe she needs to pay for this. She killed him!!! She left the scene, and tried to make it look like the car was stolen. Leaving a scene after hitting someone should count for punishment all together. And the police report say she was going 60mph. Science doesn't lie!!! I do agree that people make mistakes, and this is a mistake she deserves to pay for. While she'll have to live with on her shoulders her entire life is something she should have thought about before hitting him. She ruined his family (as well as hers). If Daniel really was abusive, then she is just as guilty. Why didn't she get help? And because he was abusive, does that give her the right to kill him?? Absolutely NOT!!! The pot is calling the kettle black!!!! Whatever reason Daniel's mother kicked him out is between them, and has nothing to do with the situation at hand. That is something I'm sure she'd give anything to take back. I saw no TRUE remore from Brandi. The fact that she was a cheerleader, straight A student, all american girl means nothing. Many people barley pass high school, do no after school activities, and they don't kill their "abusive" boyfriend. In my opinion she deserves to serve the complete 12 years if not more... 
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:47 pm PDT

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I think I heard someone say Daniel had threatened to commit suicide if she left him.  He didn't seem like a very stable person - what with the abuse and threats, etc. Could he have jumped in front of the car as a suicide attempt?  If it was out of vengeance toward her, he sure succeeded.  (That she would get blamed for his death)  Four years after the fact, Daniel's family is still stuck in the revenge mode.  They need some counseling or join a "Parents of Murdered Children" group or something, so they don't waste their entire lives over this.  Seems it has become their "identity."  Sad on both sides...
You must not have kids.  Their son died and the girl who killed him doesn't have the guts to admit she did so.  She gets a whole 12 years for running someone over at 65mph in a residential neighborhood.  He went through her wi ndshield and she couldn't stop to see if he was okay.  Her first story was she didn't know what she hit.  Her second story was she was in shock.  Her third story was she was too scared.  Which is it?  I don't believe a thing from someone who changes their story 3 times in five minutes. And why on earth if someone threatened to kill you, would you go to their house?  Don't believe her!  And I think her family are the one's that need counseling.  To be angry at the fact that thier daughter only recieved 12 years for killing someone is ridiculous.  Even it was an accident, she drove off.  If someone hit someone you love on accident and drove off, you would be pissed too.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:48 pm PDT

Almost Been There

I was in a relationship for a little over 8 years. My family hated him but dealt with him cause I loved him at one time. I was 17 he was 27 he came into my life and just changed it for the better at first I thought. He controlled me and told me what I had to eat what I could eat, where I could go. Then the time came where I wanted out we had been engaged after 8 years and it wasnt going anywhere. My family (mom and dad) had turned to his side. I had found a friend in a guy online and he showed me that what was happening to me would only lead to my death and at this time my life with my ex was becoming abusive and so it took a  lot of hard work on my part to get out. I know how Brandi feels cause he started acting like Daniel is said to have been acting. He would get in front of my car and try to get in the car banging on the windows and it would scare me. As far as not remembering it or knowing she had hit him is possible. When people are scared beyond belief they close all other feelings off and once she got home her mind was finally unwinding from the shock and upset. As far as remorse like someone said that she shows none well i feel no remorse for the torture that i was being put thru perhaps to her she has some sense of thank god he cant hurt me anymore. My ex still after a year has tried to ruin my life and that cant happen cause i am happily married to the friend i met online who helped me to see the real truth. In my case i wish i had listened to my family and friends earlier when they told me he was no good. The only person who hasnt accepted it is my mother. She wont let my ex out of her life she is tearing apart my family due to this. Everyone else has accepted my choice and love my husband and are thankful to him for getting me away from things that were ruining my life.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:49 pm PDT

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Whether or not it was intentional, she took a life and then fabricated a lie to try and cover it up.   I have no problem with the sentence she is serving regardless of her intent.
 
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October 13, 2005, 1:49 pm PDT

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree

After observing Daniel's mother on the show, I personally do not have any doupt that the rotten apple does not fall far from the tree.  I've met so many women like this one who think nothing of inflicting any type of pain they can on others; physical, mental, emotional.  Brandi may or may not have intentionally done this....she is the only living person who knows the truth.  However, all of the parents in this tragedy need to take full responsibility for neglecting to do anything about an obviously abusive situation.  It's only right they should all suffer the punishment for their neglect.
 
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