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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 2:44 pm PDT

BRANDI IS A LIAR! IT IS MURDER!

  I can't believe Dr. Phil would not see through this girl.  It is MURDER! 

She is such a liar.  Anyone watching this can see the truth. She did this on purpose. 

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 2:45 pm PDT

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I just watched this episode and I can't believe the selfishness.  This is a boy who repeatedly threaten the lives of others and himself.  He jumped in front of a moving car.  Sounds like he is the one that planned it---how did he know it was her returning? He was throwing himself infront of anyonw if you ask me.  Also the sister stated she was in the house and heard the voices getting loud and dialed 91 (did'nt get the whole 911) when she heard a crash.  BUt minutes later she stated she seen the whole thing happen.  Now someone tell me who is doing the lieing for the children? 

  

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there will be justice when this girl gets to go home! 

I said the exact same thing.  How can the boys sister sit there and lie on national tv.  She is the one that needs to be in trouble, she probably lied about the whole thing.
 
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October 13, 2005, 2:45 pm PDT

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Ok, Brandi is my best friend. She has been my best friend since the 6th grade. This was totally an accident. Daniel had told her he would kill her if she didn't go to his house that night.  He is the one who jumped in front of the car. She has served her time, she has done everything she can do in jail, she got her G.E.D., and she has taken all of the classes they told her she had to take. Daniel's mother kicked him out when he was 13years old. She is a nut case. Brandi was a cheerleader and a straight A student. She was in a bad position. She was so in love with him and he treated her like crap! But you can't help who you fall in love with. She derves to come home. Please pray for her she has had a hard life trying to live with this accident and she needs her family and friends while she is in there she isn't getting any better just worse! I love you Brandi! Your best friend Summer
I want you to read my post on here. My screen name is ofcrofcr.  I really feel for you, and everyone should have a friend just like you.
 
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October 13, 2005, 2:45 pm PDT

TO BOTH FAMILIES!!

Daniels sister needs to learn how to stay calm. I know emotions were running on high. The one thing that got me was how she seemed to want Daniel's ex to pay hard core. She sat there and said that she was there and heard it and at times seen it. Then about 5 min later when they were talking about there family calling Daniels's ex that night over and over she then stated they did not because they were all inside watching a MOVIE all night. So which is? Did she she and hear it or was she inside watching T.V.?   I also want to know how a family can accept that there son was a abuser. Is it ok in their eys to abuse another human. Thats ok. Abuse leads to bad things. Each family needs to turn  to God and Thank him for what they still do have and maybe use this as a teaching lesson for other kids and speak on there childrens behalfs. I am sorry someones life was lost. I am more angry that these families can not be thankful for what they still half. You either live your life in the I feel sorry for myself stage or make something good out  of all of this.  The QUESTION for Daniel's family is  IS THIS WHAT DANILE WOULD WANT YOU TO BE DOING? WOULD HE WANT YOU TO BE THIS ANGRY THIS SAD THIS HATEFUL. IF HE WAS A ABUSER THEN YES BUT I THINK HE WOULD WANT YOU TO GO ON LIVING A FULL LIFE WITH AS MUCH HAPPINESS AS YOU COULD GET!  THE SAME THING GOES FOR DANIELS EX. EVEN THOUGH SHE SAT IN JAIL I I AM SURE SHE IS NOT WISHING HER FAMILY TO BE SAD, ANGRY HATEFUL. IF ASKED I AM SURE SHE WOULD WANT THEM TO MAKE THE BEST OF HER ABSENT. THIS IS FOR BOTH FAMILIES.  I WAS TOLD ONCE THIS. THE DEVIL HAS YOU RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS YOU AND UNTIL YOU SEE THIS THEN YOU WILL NEVER WIN AND THINGS WILL ALWAYS GO HIS WAY. LET GOD HELP YOU HEAL WITH THE HELP OF FAMILY, FREINDS AND PROFESSIONALS. None of us can know who is right or wrong here it is a sad case but the truth from all parties needs to be TOLD.   

 
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October 13, 2005, 2:46 pm PDT

Only they know

Only Brandi and Daniel know exactly what happened that night.  Now Daniel is dead, and nothing anyone can say or do will bring him back.  Brandi is paying for a crime that she either did, or did not do......and she knows the real truth.  It is no ones place to judge her or her family, or Daniel or his family.  They have all suffered enough, just in different ways.  Brandi will live with this everyday of her life, for the rest of her life which is punishment enough.  She is clearly remorseful.  Daniels family needs to learn to deal with their grief, and direct it into a positive light, instead of being filled with anger and hatred.  They seemed extremely selfish, in not understanding that Brandi's family has also "lost" a child in a sense.  The Brandi that went to jail 3 1/2 years ago, will not be the same Brandi when she gets out.  It is important that both of these families learn the true meaning of forgiveness, so they can move on with their lives.  I'm sure that's what their children would want.
 
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October 13, 2005, 2:46 pm PDT

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It both angers me and cofuses me how many of you concent with this girls story.  I can not understand how it is not obvious to all of you that her story is rediculously unbeleivable.  Even if he had jumped in front of her car, what would have to be going on inside her head to not stop???  Not stopping to report it to the police is, in and of itself, reason enough to be put away for awile as far as I'm concerned.  What if he hadn't died on impact?  What if he had to lie there and suffer because she did not stop?  And as for her not knowing that she had hit him...have any of you ever hit a squirl or rabbit with your car?  You know you hit something even if you didn't see it.  I can't imagine not knowing you just hit a human being.  I feel for her family and hope that they can find a way to move on with their lives, but I think Brandi needs to take some responsibility for what she has done. 
 
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October 13, 2005, 2:47 pm PDT

Murderers Can Have Innocent Faces

It is a pity to see a teenager in prison, but she should have thought about the consequences to her actions before she ran that boy down.  Dr. Phil's interview with Brandi looked like a trained pony jumping through hoops.  She bold-faced lied to him and I think he knows that she did.  Each question about her guilt in this crime was met with averted eyes.  She made a point to look away each time it came to admitting her "innocence" and anyone with a brain cell knows that is an obvious sign of lying.  She actually had the audacity to look shocked at Dr. Phil's facts about how fast one would need to be going to knock someone 58 feet! Just because she never had behavior problems in school doesn't mean she didn't have long harbored fury at him or men in general.  She was in 'shock' during the drive home...BS!!!  She was plotting how to cover this up and come out squeaky clean.  She is as guilty as the day is long, but unfortunately neither family has dealt with any of it because they are too busy pointing fingers and this has consumed their lives to the point of non-functioning.  

 
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October 13, 2005, 2:47 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

I am the mother of a beautiful daughter who is 15, also a cheerleader, also a great student.  Recently she had a relationship with a mentally abusive young man.  All of the experiences she lived through began to change who she was.  Her exboyfriend also threatened to kill himself.  If he would have threatened to kill her she would have said, "Oh, he wouldn't do that."  She believed in the good part of this boy, tried to break up with him without hurting him more than she had to, but he wouldn't leave her alone.  His parents also harrassed us (her mother and father), sent us terrible emails about how evil our daughter was.  Before this, we truly believed it was up to us to let our daughter live and make mistakes and learn by her actions.  We did not interfere until three weeks ago.  After it seemed our daughter would never be able to get this boy out of her life and he would forever threaten crazy things,  we stepped in and told the boy we forbid our daughter to speak to him on the phone or in person.  We also contacted the school to let them know what was going on.  I spoke to my parents who live about 4 hours away and told her if I could not stop this relationship we would need to send our daughter to live with my parents, luckily they agreed and offered their support.   

  

This is our only child, she is everything fun and bright to us.  We have all dedicated ourselves to her becoming a productive and happy adult with a calm disposition.  I was so scared by this boy's behavior and his parent's support of his skewed views I was completely ready to pack her bags to protect her from her own bad decisions and her own inability to get out of a bad relationship. 

  

Some may look at Brandy and think she made a bad decision.  She was not experienced enough to handle the pressure she was under.  She did not have the neccessary tools at her disposal to remove herself from Daniel.  His mother Sheila, clearly has an agenda, but I can't figure out what she has to gain by continuing to keep Brandy behind bars.  Sheila admits nothing wrong in her son's behavior.  She didn't seem to know much about the past, only spoke of the accident and kept repeating over and over, "You have your child, my son is dead, I will never get to see him..."  Which I understand would be an issue, but if she had some sympathy for Brandy, then I would have had some sympathy for Sheila.  As it came across on the show, Sheila seemed like a drama queen bent on continuing the miserable life she has had, and blaming all of her misery on Brandy.  I don't believe Sheila knew much about the relationship between Daniel and Brandy, and even if she knew he was emotionally and/or physically abusive to Brandy, I think she would have said it was Brandy's fault, not Daniel's.  I believe this with all my heart because of my own experiences with my own daughter's boyfriend's family.  He threatened to kill us but it was my daughter's fault because she tried to break up with him.   

  

I believe that victims of crimes are not always without responsibility.  I do not think Daniel was completely innocent, and run down visciously by a crazy devil-girl.  I think he was in an erratic frame of mind because he had vested himself so totally in keeping Brandy as his girlfriend.  I think if he could see everyone now, his mother consumed with hate and Brandy behind bars, he would step up and admit the mistakes he made, his actions piled one on top of the other that led up to his demise.   

  

Brandy does not have to give up her life for one mistake.  Our judicial system is not built that way, nor should it be.   Sheila wants compensation for Daniel's death, but she is not getting it, and she will never be happy.  If Brandy had gotten the death penalty, it wouldn't have been enough for Sheila.  She would have been sitting in the front row watching the sentence be carried out, then after it was over she would have realized that it didn't help her at all.   

  

If Sheila and Brandy both die today which one do you think would have a chance to go to heaven?  The one who's sorry or the one who cares only about herself?  Which is which?   

 
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October 13, 2005, 2:48 pm PDT

I'M 20 AND IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY OF US!!!!!!!

 I KNOW THOSE OF US THAT ARE YOUNGER  KNOW ALL TO WELL WHAT HIGH SCHOOL RELATIONSHIPS ARE LIKE, BUT MAYBE SOME OF YOU PARENTS HAVE FORGOTTEN........ 

  

I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF AS I'M SURE MANY OTHER GIRLS, RELATIONSHIPS WHEN YOUR YOUNG ARE TOUGH, OUR EMOTIONS AND HORMONES ARE ALWAYS RUNNING HIGH, WE HAVE A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT, GRADES, SOCIAL STATUS, BOYS, OTHER FEMALES AS COMPETITION, PARENTS,FRIEND,DRUGS,SEX NEED I GO ON.  I KNOW I HAD A LOT LOT LOT OF FIGHTS WITH MY 7 YEAR BOY-FRIEND FROM HIGH SCHOOL, SOME WERE YELLING AND SCREAMING BUT OTHERS GOT A LITTLE VIOLENT, NOT TO THE POINT WERE I WAS BEAT BUT MAYBE PUSHED AROUND A LITTLE, I RECALL A FEW OF INCIDENTS WITH A CAR,  HE ALMOST HIT ME WITH A CAR, AS I'M SURE 8 OUT OF 10 TEENS WITH TELL YOU WHY IS THIS YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF, WELL AT THAT POINT IN YOUR LIFE YOUR CAR IS YOUR LIFE AS WELL AS YOUR ONLY WAY AROUND AS WELL AS ''OUT'' IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, I KNOW A LOT OF MY FRIENDS HAVE HAD SOME KIND OF EXPERIENCE LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, FIGHT WITH YOUR PARTNER THE CAR IS INVOLVED AND AFTER ITS ALL DONE YOU THINK WOW SOMEONE COULD HAVE REALLY GOTTEN HURT............ 

  

I THINK DANIEL GOT THE SHORT END OF A INCIDENT THAT ALMOST OCCURS EVERY WEEKEND SOMEWHERE IN AMERICA AND I'M VERY SORRY FOR HIS FAMILY'S LOSS AND HIS. 

  

AS FAR AS BRANDI, I DO NOT THINK SHE SHOULD BE THROWING HER LIFE AWAY IN PRISON.......LET OUR SO CALLED GREAT  JUDICIAL SYSTEM REMEMBER IT IS NOT AN EYE FOR AN EYE  I THINK THEY ARE BOTH VICTIMS, BRANDI COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN THE ONE THAT DIED AND DANIEL WOULD BE SITTING IN PRISON. I WOULD FEEL THE SAME FOR HIM.  

  

I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN YOUR IN THAT KIND OF A FIGHT, YOUR TRYING YOUR HARDEST TO LEAVE BECAUSE SOMEONE HAVE THREATENED YOUR LIFE AND SOME ONE YOU LOVES LIFE THINGS CAN GET BLURRY I'M SURE SHE DIDN'T MEAN TO HIT HIM SHE JUST WANTED TO GET AWAY , NOW WEATHER SHE SAW HIM FOR A SPLIT SECOND  I'M SURE IT WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO STOP...................I FEEL THIS SAME THING COULD OF AND I'M SURE ALMOST DID HAPPEN TO ME OR ONE OF MY FRIENDS OR A LOT OF TEENS OUT THERE BUT IN BRANDI AND DANIEL'S CASE THE WORST HAPPENED.......................ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN EVEN IF THEY SEEM AWFUL AND ITS ALWAYS EASIER TO BELIEVE THE WORST 

  

BRANDI I BELIEVE THIS WAS A KIDS FIGHT THAT GOT OUT OF HAND AND THAT YOU DID NOT TRY TO HIT HIM ON PURPOSE, I THINK ITS WRONG WHAT THEY GAVE YOU AND I HOPE THE SYSTEM SEE'S THE ERROR OF ITS WAY BEFORE 2014...............MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH THE FAMILIES AND YOU BRANDI  

         

  

                                                     20 YEAR OLD FROM MICHIGAN 

                                                                     KATIE 

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 2:48 pm PDT

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ok, 

  

has anyone forgotten that daniel BEAT on brandi! I mean she coulda done this out of emotions!  so shes in jail for 12 years and she knows what she has done so I think that ms. Sheila should forgive! Also, dont teach your sone to beat up on women, it causes major emotional damage! 

Where are the police reports? Do you honestly bealive that she was beaten on? It is obvious that her parents are protective people. where were they when she came home with bruises? If she was truley afraid of him she would have never went to his house at night alone to see him. Don't fall for her fake tears she is a killer and deserves to be where she is.
 
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