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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 3:44 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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How many minutes of the show were devoted to hearing Brandi and her family's story?? 

  

How many minutes of the show were spent listening to Daniel's family? 

  

I don't know the answers to those questions, but those answers need to be considered before making judgements based on what may have been a biased representation of the facts by Dr. Phil and his producers. 

  

Dr. Phil seemed to favour the plight of Brandi and her family.  Was it the facts that swayed him, or was it the pretty little girl?   Too often, I think women get away with 'murder', literally in this case.  Just because Brandi didn't have a criminal or violent past doesn't mean she wasn't capable of murder.  Raging hormones and adrenaline can cause us all to do things we know we should not. 

  

Maybe Brandi is truly innocent.  I think she was playing her family, and has been playing her family ever since she killed Daniel.  At this point, she would say anything to get out of jail.  My gut tells me she is exactly where she belongs. 

  

Daniel's family deserves a show where they are on the stage, and they get to tell their side completely.  It sounds like Crystal saw the car right after the accident.  She would know for sure where it was if she saw it.  There are so many unanswered questions.  Let us hear Daniel's family's story. 

  

I am a Dr. Phil fan, and I don't usually write.  This show compelled me to come to the message board as soon as I could.   

  

I agree, put Daniel's family on the stage.  While they are revisiting the story, what about the inconsistant story's from Brandi and her Dad regarding what she did when she got home. 
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:44 pm PDT

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Ok, Brandi is my best friend. She has been my best friend since the 6th grade. This was totally an accident. Daniel had told her he would kill her if she didn't go to his house that night.  He is the one who jumped in front of the car. She has served her time, she has done everything she can do in jail, she got her G.E.D., and she has taken all of the classes they told her she had to take. Daniel's mother kicked him out when he was 13years old. She is a nut case. Brandi was a cheerleader and a straight A student. She was in a bad position. She was so in love with him and he treated her like crap! But you can't help who you fall in love with. She derves to come home. Please pray for her she has had a hard life trying to live with this accident and she needs her family and friends while she is in there she isn't getting any better just worse! I love you Brandi! Your best friend Summer

I can see your as clueless as her parents.   When she gets out make sure you stick with her so someday you'll wind up in jail too. 

 

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October 13, 2005, 3:44 pm PDT

wow

You all want an honest opinion from a housemother, i think brandi should do the time that she is jail for. i believe she did it  and maybe i am wrong but none of us will ever know the only two people that will ever know the truth is brandi and daniel. we all dont know what went down that one night. I believe she should do the 12 yrs that she has been convicted of.
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:46 pm PDT

Hate is Exhausting!

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Crystal- I agree with this. I know you loved your brother and you miss him, I honestly can say I probably would feel the same way as you are now. Do you think that Daniel would want this for you and your family?  You don't have to ever forgive her, but devert your attention to positive memories of Daniel and do things in his name to remember him. You and your family need eachother and it will not do any good to dwell on this and shut down, it will not bring him back. Pull together as a family and be strong. LIFE WILL GET BETTER!!! ;) Regardless of how hopeless it seems now it will get better and it will hurt less. Good luck to you and my thoughts and prayers are with you for always. Stay strong and keep your head up!! 

Sincerily,  

Crystal 

 Hate takes up YOUR life not Brandi's. Your hatred of her ruins your lives. That is why it is better for YOU to let it go and find peace in some sort of forgiveness. At the very least, the benefit of the doubt.  If you don't, then your lives will be lived in vain, your lives will be just as gone as your son and brother. Don't let that happen. Try, try very hard to let this hate go and move on. You will never forget. but you cannot find peace with all this anger and hate you are spewing every day.
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:46 pm PDT

Move forward and forgive

It was really hard to tell whether or not it was intentional.  The evidence seemed to point in that direction but as an avid watcher of CSI, everything isn't always as it seems.  Whatever the case Brandi appears to be truly sorry and she is being punished and serving time.  I agree with Dr. Phil.  Her family needs to take care of their physical health and mental well being and move on because by not taking care of themselves they are allowing the situation to fester and creating another completely separate damaging situation in their lives.  She's made it 3 1/2 years, she can make it another 8 1/2.  She appeared to be handling it well.  Continue to try and help her but don't let it control YOUR lives.  She needs you healthy, happy and strong when she does come home. 

  

To Daniel's family.  None of us knew Daniel but it is obvious that you truly loved him and he meant the world to you.  He is now gone and he can't be brought back.  That is devastating.  As hard as it may seem forgiveness is a necessity.  So easy for anyone to say and so hard to do.  If you hold on to bitterness and revenge, healing inside just won't happen.  As hard as it is to forgive you need to do it for yourselves and for your own well being.  Daniel wouldn't want you to feel as awful as you do.  Try doing something positive in Daniel's memory.  A scholarship or a flower memorial in your local park for example.  Something that will help you to feel better inside.   I believe in God and I feel that God is there to help us in times like this.  If you believe in God reach out to him. 

  

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October 13, 2005, 3:47 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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I pray more for Daniel's family becuase they have no hope of ever seeing Daniel because of the hatred they have displayed on the air.  

  

What exactly do you mean here? 

I'm very sorry to hear about your lose and I agree with you, God forgives each and everyone of us everyday for things we do, and he also gave his "only begotten son". Daniel's mother is so ate up wth resentment and anger and hate that she is finding any and every way to blame Brandi. She needs to realize that no matter how long Brani is in prison, it's not gonna bring Daniel back. I don't think Brandi did this on purpose, I believe it was a freak accident.
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:47 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Omg what is wrong with all of you.  Have you all been so perfect that you haven't made a mistake ever.  Dont get me wrong I feel bad for both of these families and losing their children, but has anyone stopped to think that she was only 17, she is still a child, she has a lot to learn yet. I believe it was an accident,  if I heard right I believe Daniel was in so much pain with his own family he didnt want to live. Sounded like another future wife beater to me as well,   

I think both families should forgive and Move on with their lives,   

By Brandi being in  one of our  already crowded  jails, what actually is the purpose, REVENGE,   

Let her out.  

  

I do have a question for Daniels parents.  What if the role was the other way around?   What would you say  if your daughter accidentally killed Brandis brother?  huh.... 

  

Accidents happen  get over it and move on. You cant be angry forever.  You are only hurting your selves as well. Brandi's mom is already having health problems,  Stress and anger will get you know where.  Get a life. 

HAH!! THANKS!!!!! let her out. sheesh.
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:47 pm PDT

I agree 100%

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Omg what is wrong with all of you.  Have you all been so perfect that you haven't made a mistake ever.  Dont get me wrong I feel bad for both of these families and losing their children, but has anyone stopped to think that she was only 17, she is still a child, she has a lot to learn yet. I believe it was an accident,  if I heard right I believe Daniel was in so much pain with his own family he didnt want to live. Sounded like another future wife beater to me as well,   

I think both families should forgive and Move on with their lives,   

By Brandi being in  one of our  already crowded  jails, what actually is the purpose, REVENGE,   

Let her out.  

  

I do have a question for Daniels parents.  What if the role was the other way around?   What would you say  if your daughter accidentally killed Brandis brother?  huh.... 

  

Accidents happen  get over it and move on. You cant be angry forever.  You are only hurting your selves as well. Brandi's mom is already having health problems,  Stress and anger will get you know where.  Get a life. 

I agree that everyone one should forgive, never forget, but forgive for their own sakes.     Resentment and hate will only eat a person up inside.   I have had personal experience with this and know first hand what refusing to forgive will do to a person.  Poor Brandi will have to live with what has happened for the rest of her life.  She deserves to be let out to try to put the pieces of her shattered life back together.  Daniel's family needs to forgive her so they will not end up as bitter, unhappy people.  It's the only way! 
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:48 pm PDT

These poor families!

My hearts went out to each member of both families! I can not believe how both sides were attacking eachother in the ways they were. Brandi being in prison is NOT going to bring back their son! Brandi's mother was right, no matter how long Brandi is locked up she will think about what she has done for the rest of her life! Daniel's family has so much hate in their hearts that they can't come to grip that their son is gone! The only one that knows the real truth is Brandi and Daniel, the police reports are the only other things that can prove either stories! Either way how can both families have such a different story, someone is not being honest! Poor Daniel will not be able to rest in peace if this horrible situation continues. I do not think Brandi should be in prison for 12 years, she admitted to hitting Daniel and is sorry!  I hope that everyone can find peace with this at some point! 

 
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October 13, 2005, 3:48 pm PDT

Anger is a mask for guilt

I think the statements made by Daniel's mother and sister  were not appropriate.  They sound defensive statements rather than explanations.  It was shocking to see the rage the two women displayed towards Brandi and her family.  Knowing that anger and guilt are VERY close emotions it makes one rather vote in favor of Brandi and her side of the story.  Presentation is everything!   

    

I think that the out and out dismissal of abuse charges due to lack of visible evidence is absurd.  It is a reaction of defense that one takes when abuse is certain but not evident.  How can Daniel's mother state with assurance, her son's actions and behaviors when he did not live with her.  When she did not interact with him on a daily basis.  When she was not being a mother to him.  This is where her guilt lies and why she is so defensive.   

    

I feel for the loss of both families and believe in Brandi and her family.  It is a shame that the facts cannot be fully disclosed due to time.  We were only shown the 'highlights'.  Items to peak and keep our interest.  Of those, I decide accident.   

 
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